Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

efb · 28-10-2015 12:07PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

Thought the last one was a lot better!

Is he semi naked a lot?

symbolic · 28-10-2015 12:07PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

Thought the last one was a lot better!

My review of the Arsenal game is the same.

efb · 28-10-2015 12:07PM

symbolic wrote: »

My review of the Arsenal game is the same.

Boom boom!!!

Dozen Wicked Words · 28-10-2015 12:09PM

efb wrote: »

Thanks whoever fixed it!

Mickeroo deleted my seasonal faux pas

jonneymendoza · 28-10-2015 12:11PM

what happened to arsenal last night? shambolic!

efb · 28-10-2015 12:27PM

jonneymendoza wrote: »

what happened to arsenal last night? shambolic!

A competition we cared little for, nyeh

Sacksian · 28-10-2015 12:30PM

Really thought last night was a chance for Campbell to shine.

He's the obvious replacement for Ox and, considering the clamour for him to get more game time last season before he went on loan to Villareal, it's worrying how ill-prepared he seems for a run in the first-team.

Before the start of the season, I wouldn't have thought either himself or Ox would get a sustained run in the team and now that opportunity's there, it's a shame neither looks ready to really grasp it.

I'd agree last night was down to the first-teamers, but Arsenal are using the u21s for the u18s this year and so have a lot of players on loan.

Crowley, Hayden, Zelalem, Akpom, Toral, Wellington, Sanogo, Maitland-Niles (and Gnabry) all would have been a cut above the younger players used and on the bench last night.

Having said that, Bielik looked more composed than Kamara and Iwobi definitely has a bit about him (even if he didn't really show it last night). Even Chris Willock and Steph Mavididi might have made the bench ahead of Bennacer last night if they hadn't been away recently.

Marcus Antonius · 28-10-2015 12:30PM

efb wrote: »

A competition we cared little for, nyeh

Didn't get to see it, don't really care all that much, fair play to Wednesday all the same. Only thing I care about is 2 poxy injuries to first team players! :mad: Any word on how long we are gonna be missing them yet?

efb · 28-10-2015 12:31PM

Marcus Antonius wrote: »

Didn't get to see it, don't really care all that much, fair play to Wednesday all the same. Only thing I care about is 2 poxy injuries to first team players! :mad: Any word on how long we are gonna be missing them yet?

Is Ox a first team player?

Marcus Antonius · 28-10-2015 12:33PM

efb wrote: »

Is Ox a first team player?

He is when Walcott is injured

Roaster · 28-10-2015 12:52PM

Thought Belik looked good too when he came on. Yes he got caught a few times on the ball but that was more down to nobody available to give the ball too.

Mickeroo · 28-10-2015 12:58PM

Yeah the injuries are by far the worst thing about last night, same old sameold. Hopefully it's true they'll both be back in 2 weeks.

Roaster · 28-10-2015 01:17PM

Seems Crowley has returned early from Barnsley loan. Considering he's played 13 out of their last 18 I don't think it's down to his form. Must be a recall to cover for injuries as he's very highly thought of at the club.

Alfred Borden · 28-10-2015 01:28PM

Roaster wrote: »

Seems Crowley has returned early from Barnsley loan. Considering he's played 13 out of their last 18 I don't think it's down to his form. Must be a recall to cover for injuries as he's very highly thought of at the club.

Under performing supposedly. Find it very hard to believe though. i see glowing reports about him every week.

Gringo180 · 28-10-2015 02:26PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

Yeah the injuries are by far the worst thing about last night, same old sameold. Hopefully it's true they'll both be back in 2 weeks.

As per usual we are top of the Prem Lge injury list along with Newcastle with 8 injuries.

Arsenal 8

T Walcott Muscular Injury no date
A Oxlade-Chamberlain Muscular Injury no date
M Arteta Ankle/Foot Injury no date
A Ramsey Hamstring Injury 4 weeks
D Ospina Shoulder Injury 4 weeks
J Wilshere Calf/Shin Injury 7 weeks
T Rosicky Knee Injury 2 months
D Welbeck Knee Injury 3 months

This cant be just a coincidence. Seems to happen every season.

28-10-2015 02:32PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

As per usual we are top of the Prem Lge injury list along with Newcastle with 8 injuries.

Arsenal 8

T Walcott Muscular Injury no date
A Oxlade-Chamberlain Muscular Injury no date
M Arteta Ankle/Foot Injury no date
A Ramsey Hamstring Injury 4 weeks
D Ospina Shoulder Injury 4 weeks
J Wilshere Calf/Shin Injury 7 weeks
T Rosicky Knee Injury 2 months
D Welbeck Knee Injury 3 months

This cant be just a coincidence. Seems to happen every season.

Mostly sicknotes, though we seem to have turned Welbeck into one. He's spent longer injured with us than in 4/5 years at United.

The manner of last night's injuries don't strike me as coincidental bad luck either. Two fast wingers pulling muscles within a couple of minutes, hmmm.

wonga77 · 28-10-2015 02:36PM

Much and all as I love Rosicky, it might be time to part company with him, he's as bad as Diaby, we dont ever seem to have him available

Bobby Baccala · 28-10-2015 02:41PM

wonga77 wrote: »

Much and all as I love Rosicky, it might be time to part company with him, he's as bad as Diaby, we dont ever seem to have him available

Not as bad as diaby but quickly heading that way, this should be his last season with us

5star02707 · 28-10-2015 02:43PM

New thread wow! well about last night's game personally i like that we are out of that competition but the manner we lost i'm not happy about it.

Losing 2 first team players is a massive blow i just hope they were subbed due to precaution. Main focus should be the EPL. also just in

we recalled crowley today.

http://news.arseblog.com/2015/10/report-crowley-returns-early-from-barnsley-loan/

Soups123 · 28-10-2015 02:45PM

wonga77 wrote: »

Much and all as I love Rosicky, it might be time to part company with him, he's as bad as Diaby, we dont ever seem to have him available

100% agree love the guy but we are a top team and he takes up a place in the squad every season but is rarely fit, but I cant stress how good a player he is when fit.

Our injury list always consists of Theo, Wilshire, Ramsey and Ox not always together but always contains them. I think it has to be looked at.

I think one of Ox/Wilshire needs to go or Wenger needs to be willing to increase the squad size and deal with the problem of them all being fit.

Us being top of the table of injuries is not new. In addition I really think two players getting muscle injuries within a couple of minutes of playing last night is not a coincidence.

We need to get to Nov 8th without losing players and hopefully have 2/3 back by the next game on the 21st

jonneymendoza · 28-10-2015 03:02PM

Marcus Antonius wrote: »

He is when Walcott is injured

no girud is mate

L'prof · 28-10-2015 03:25PM

5star02707 wrote: »

New thread wow! well about last night's game personally i like that we are out of that competition but the manner we lost i'm not happy about it.

Losing 2 first team players is a massive blow i just hope they were subbed due to precaution. Main focus should be the EPL. also just in

we recalled crowley today.

http://news.arseblog.com/2015/10/report-crowley-returns-early-from-barnsley-loan/

It says his spell was cut short by the League 1 club as he failed to impress coaching staff.

tayto lover · 28-10-2015 03:40PM

We have a poor chance of winning the league if we have to rely on any of the defenders we saw last night. I know it was only the League Cup but that defending was totally shambolic. We used to play second teams in this that nearly managed to win it on several occasions. Last night the defenders couldn't even set up properly to defend corners. I think Chambers was jumping with his eyes shut and Mert can't jump at all. The other two were as bad if not worse.

Now Mert might have been minding himself but if that's the case why was he played at all?
The loss of Walcott and Ox leaves us threadbare for a month now.

Gringo180 · 28-10-2015 03:47PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Now Mert might have been minding himself

If thats true he should be shot with his own balls of ****e :pac:

Could you imagine warriors like Adams, Keown, Campbell going out to play a game and minding themselves. I dont think it was the case he went out to mind himself but it sure looked like it. He annoyed me so much last night, captain of the club should be leading by example and setting a good example to the youngsters coming into the team imo.

tayto lover · 28-10-2015 04:03PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

If thats true he should be shot with his own balls of ****e :pac:

Could you imagine warriors like Adams, Keown, Campbell going out to play a game and minding themselves. I dont think it was the case he went out to mind himself but it sure looked like it. He annoyed me so much last night, captain of the club should be leading by example and setting a good example to the youngsters coming into the team imo.

Totally agree but no "hairdryer" treatment for any of our under-performing players it seems. They are usually selected for the next game.
That was the same kind of defending that we witnessed in the first two CL games so it's not new.

Soups123 · 28-10-2015 04:33PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

If thats true he should be shot with his own balls of ****e :pac:

Could you imagine warriors like Adams, Keown, Campbell going out to play a game and minding themselves. I dont think it was the case he went out to mind himself but it sure looked like it. He annoyed me so much last night, captain of the club should be leading by example and setting a good example to the youngsters coming into the team imo.

tayto lover wrote: »

Totally agree but no "hairdryer" treatment for any of our under-performing players it seems. They are usually selected for the next game.
That was the same kind of defending that we witnessed in the first two CL games so it's not new.

I think you need to take a step back on last nights defending a little, dont get me wrong it was piss poor. However it was not our starting 4, our starting 4 and Mert have been excellent this season. As a unit they were awful last night but they had zero protection or cover from a midfield that included 3 academy players and Flamini and Campbell.

You can be certain that Mert will be much better in there with the normal first team, Gibbs can do a job and is as good a 2nd choice LB as you can get.

Debuchy has been really poor since injury, not getting a run of games hasnt helped and he seems to have lost pace, if it was me I would sell him on and bring Jenks back.

Chambers for me needs a loan spell, he had only broke the Saints first team when we bought him, he could really do with a loan to a lower Prem side.

So while it was poor last night defensively in the league we have been very good and we look much more solid that years gone by

28-10-2015 04:37PM

Soups123 wrote: »

I think you need to take a step back on last nights defending a little, dont get me wrong it was piss poor. However it was not our starting 4, our starting 4 and Mert have been excellent this season. As a unit they were awful last night but they had zero protection or cover from a midfield that included 3 academy players and Flamini and Campbell.

You can be certain that Mert will be much better in there with the normal first team, Gibbs can do a job and is as good a 2nd choice LB as you can get.

Debuchy has been really poor since injury, not getting a run of games hasnt helped and he seems to have lost pace, if it was me I would sell him on and bring Jenks back.

Chambers for me needs a loan spell, he had only broke the Saints first team when we bought him, he could really do with a loan to a lower Prem side.

So while it was poor last night defensively in the league we have been very good and we look much more solid that years gone by

Hard to blame the midfield for the set-piece defending though. We've still looked vulnerable any time we try to play possession football as well, and I don't trust Wenger to admit to seeing that.

tayto lover · 28-10-2015 04:40PM

Soups123 wrote: »

I think you need to take a step back on last nights defending a little, dont get me wrong it was piss poor. However it was not our starting 4, our starting 4 and Mert have been excellent this season. As a unit they were awful last night but they had zero protection or cover from a midfield that included 3 academy players and Flamini and Campbell.

You can be certain that Mert will be much better in there with the normal first team, Gibbs can do a job and is as good a 2nd choice LB as you can get.

Debuchy has been really poor since injury, not getting a run of games hasnt helped and he seems to have lost pace, if it was me I would sell him on and bring Jenks back.

Chambers for me needs a loan spell, he had only broke the Saints first team when we bought him, he could really do with a loan to a lower Prem side.

So while it was poor last night defensively in the league we have been very good and we look much more solid that years gone by

I know it's not our starting four but as i said any of those lads could be called in due to injuries.
I don't care about the cup matches anyway but even if it was in the training ground that kind of defending on basic stuff is not good enough. Some of them weren't even facing the ball to attack it from corners and that's what is bugging me. I know it was an experimental side but that back four have played together several times before. They are poor back-up players.

emmetlego · 28-10-2015 04:56PM

I have the solution.

Sack Bould! :-)

Soups123 · 28-10-2015 04:56PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Hard to blame the midfield for the set-piece defending though. We've still looked vulnerable any time we try to play possession football as well, and I don't trust Wenger to admit to seeing that.

I would disgree, for goal number 2 they had spare men and space behind the goal scorer, for the 3rd goal the left sided midfield should have been marking the lad who knocked it back in.

I kinda agree about the possession football especially against better teams, we are much better suited sitting back then going on the break. For weaker teams they sit back so it more natural we should come and dominate.

In fairness to Arsene I think he has got his tactics spot on for a number of games this season.

tayto lover wrote: »

I know it's not our starting four but as i said any of those lads could be called in due to injuries.
I don't care about the cup matches anyway but even if it was in the training ground that kind of defending on basic stuff is not good enough. Some of them weren't even facing the ball to attack it from corners and that's what is bugging me. I know it was an experimental side but that back four have played together several times before. They are poor back-up players.

Mert is not a poor back up player, Chambers is not a poor back up player when you consider he is 4th choice CB, your not going to get much better for a 4th choice CB, he needs a loan if you ask me.

Debuchy I feel needs to move on, the two injuries and Bellerin's emergence has killed him.

Gibbs as a 2nd choice LB is as good as there is around, have a look at other teams around us they have no better.

I think Mert and Gibbs can slot in and perform to the level needed. The other two I would worry about

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

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