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my friend

PeterTheEighth wrote: »

Duffy is walking around to join D'Arcy in studio? Another half hour to promote his private enterprise again?

Outrageous amount of free promos

thesandeman

FFS!!!!!

ButtersSuki

my friend wrote: »

Free ads for all Joes buddies , revenue should hit them for the BIK

Free ads?

They GET PAID to publicise themselves at the taxpayer's expense every month on Da Lahv Lahn.

SEPT 23 1989

you couldn't get an answer because nobody cares

PeterTheEighth

"I worked on it every day including Christmas Day" says Duffy...

Can you imagine it. Duffy Towers on Christmas day. Joe is sitting by the fireplace with a quill in his hand, coals stacked up on the fire, and candle flicking by the page. When the shout comes from the kitchen "Joe, come down to the dining room, the three twins are opening their presents". "I cant" says Duffy, "I have to look up some Death Certificates".

SEPT 23 1989

Joe was Gay's helper monkey

PeterTheEighth

"The greatest thing about this organisation is that anybody can come on air and criticise RTE"..

As Ray D'Arcy cherry picks the complimentary texts to read out about Duffy.

sligojoek

It's ridiculous. If I write a book, how much would a 30second ad on primetime radio cost me?

ButtersSuki

sligojoek wrote: »

It's ridiculous. If I write a book, how much would a 30second ad on primetime radio cost me?

Ask and you shall receive. All the attached are prices for 30second ad slots.

That's the basic rate, premiums are paid for first in break and last in break.

That's also what's termed as "the rate card rate". No-one (except fuppin' eejits) pay that btw. You get discounts for number of slots, agency buying power, etc.

Any more meeja questions?

Hitchens

Oh'Caddle was on afterwards and he wants the BLDuffer's Magnum Opus placed on the school curriculum forthwith :rolleyes:

Dan Jaman

my friend wrote: »

Free ads for all Joes buddies , revenue should hit them for the BIK

More to the point, the cheques should hit their mailboxes just in time for Xmas, for the putrid performance payment. A nice little seasonal extra for them.

BarryD

sligojoek wrote: »

It's ridiculous. If I write a book, how much would a 30second ad on primetime radio cost me?

In fairness, he did explain why Hachette were publishing his book - he was having trouble finding a publisher in Ireland..

neris

BarryD wrote: »

In fairness, he did explain why Hachette were publishing his book - he was having trouble finding a publisher in Ireland..

Otherwise known as: Irish publishers think his books a load of horse poop

Why didnt he self publish as he seems to think its such a great idea for the average joe to do or was it the fact that their books never sell that he grabbed at the last strands of printing hope soomewhere in the UK & Germany so he could hold face with his "fellow authors"

Dan Jaman

I wouldn't be at all surprised if there's an element of author support/contribution in the publishing costs. Kind of like self-publishing, but without actually admitting it. I'd think that's why he's so keen on plugging the bejasus out of the buke, to get as many out there as possible, so the undertaking can at least break even.
Frankly, I doubt Hachette would have bothered looking at it, given the size of the market for such a narrow interest, unless the author just happens to be in a position where he has the opportunity to promote it every few weeks in the first year of writing, then every few days in the run-up to publication, then every bleedin' hour after it's hit the bookshops. Still, it won't be long before it hits the dumpsters and remaindered shops and we can put it behind us, for good.

BarryD

There's a heap of books now on the Rising and I'm sure plenty more in gestation and you'd imagine that whilst there's a certain market for them, the pool of purchasers can only stretch so far. One thing in favour of this book is that it does focus on the ordinary civilians as far as I can judge and far more of them died than combatants. Despite the rhetoric of some, I'm not sure that the leaders of said Rising were all that concerned about civilian deaths - they were resolutely focused on blood letting and self sacrifice.

Atlantic Dawn

Has anyone done a buke on the British soldiers that died so to speak during the rising?

Hitchens

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Has anyone done a buke on the British soldiers that died so to speak during the rising?

whoy?

Dan Jaman

I think there's a fascinating buke to be written about the tramcars of 1916. Take a trundle through the daily lives of the drivers, clippies and maintenance wurkurs of Dubalin Tramways and how the careless expenditure of ammunition affected the punctuality of the service, how they coped with it and what they had for dinner that night.

PeterTheEighth

BarryD wrote: »

In fairness, he did explain why Hachette were publishing his book - he was having trouble finding a publisher in Ireland..

I'm having trouble buying that one.. What about Harper Collins. His fellow RTE "author" Tubridy got a three book deal, to write three books that really didnt need to be written, as an exercise to cash in on his celebrity. What Duffy was doing was essentially the same. A history book, nice sepia colours, topic that is of interest to the presenters himself (and nobody else) but is assured success because of the celebrity of the author and their shameless whoring of the book on the national airwaves.

Does he not just ring up Harper Collins and say "do the same for me as you did for Tubridy"

Dan Jaman

PeterTheEighth wrote: »

Does he not just ring up Harper Collins and say "do the same for me as you did for Tubridy"

Possibly not in the same clubs / associations / old pals network.

sligojoek

Dan Jaman wrote: »

I wouldn't be at all surprised if there's an element of author support/contribution in the publishing costs. Kind of like self-publishing, but without actually admitting it. I'd think that's why he's so keen on plugging the bejasus out of the buke, to get as many out there as possible, so the undertaking can at least break even.
Frankly, I doubt Hachette would have bothered looking at it, given the size of the market for such a narrow interest, unless the author just happens to be in a position where he has the opportunity to promote it every few weeks in the first year of writing, then every few days in the run-up to publication, then every bleedin' hour after it's hit the bookshops. Still, it won't be long before it hits the dumpsters and remaindered shops and we can put it behind us, for good.

And don't forget about next easter and the easter after . A double whammy for him. Most people only get the xmas market for their books.

neris

sligojoek wrote: »

And don't forget about next easter and the easter after

The housewives of 1916

The pubs of 1916

The british soldiers of 1916

The dublin "characters" of 1916

PeterTheEighth

And just one other thing about that interview with Duffy. D'Arcy said something like "Joe, the great thing about liveline is that the agenda is driven by the callers". Duffy responded by saying (paraphrased) "yes, sometimes we have been approached to do a particular topic on a particular day and I've said no. The show is driven by the callers".

But this is patently NOT true. I mean on the day he made this statement, he had one of his UnFunny Fridays combined with a birthday party for Brush Shiels! I can assure you that none of the callers asked for this. He frequently shoehorns in topics that relate to Ballyfermot or 1916, and anything that makes either the shinners or RyanAir look bad goes straight to air ahead of other topics.

Astoundingly, he also made the claim that he "loves every caller". This is also NOT true. He is frequently incredibly rude to people when they commit the serious crimes of not knowing another callers name of telling him something he already knows (I know, I know, I know).

BarryD

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Has anyone done a buke on the British soldiers that died so to speak during the rising?

I believe this one deals with the subject: Irishmen who enlisted in the army for WW1 and who were deployed against the rebels and of which 40+ died in the Rising. Not a story often heard of.. http://www.amazon.co.uk/books/dp/1848892144/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1445676250&sr=8-1&keywords=neil+richardson

From the blurb:
'I will say a prayer for all brave men who do their duty according to their lights.' James Connolly, May 12 1916. In April 1916, the Easter Rising broke out in Dublin. History remembers it as Irish rebel against English soldier, but the truth is more complicated. Thousands of British army soldiers in the Rising were Irishmen, including Second-Lieutenant Robert Barton from Glendalough, who later became a Sinn Féin TD and a signatory of the Anglo-Irish Truce, the infamous Captain John Bowen-Colthurst on whose orders Francis Sheehy-Skeffington was executed, and the eclectic scientist and inventor Prof. John Joly from Co. Offaly who, at fifty-eight, helped to defend Trinity College Dublin throughout the Rising. Many enlisted to fight for Irish Home Rule or Ulster Unionism, to find adventure or escape from poverty. None imagined they would find themselves on the streets of Dublin, killing and being killed by fellow Irishmen. Forty-one Irishmen in the British army died in action during the Rising, 106 were wounded. These men became a forgotten part of their country's history.

PeterTheEighth

Now that you mention it, Barry, you'd have to think that if Duffy was doing another book it would surely be about Jim Connolly.

Dan Jaman

PeterTheEighth wrote: »

Now that you mention it, Barry, you'd have to think that if Duffy was doing another book it would surely be about Jim Connolly.

Trouble is, Joe would be up against many other historians who've already put their oars in there, and he'd be a bit cautious about exposing his donkey to the flames.

thesandeman

His book has been mentioned on two programmes already today.


And it's only ten past nine.

Atlantic Dawn

thesandeman wrote: »

His book has been mentioned on two programmes already today.


And it's only ten past nine.

On State Media or private so to speak?

Dan Jaman

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

On State Media or private so to speak?

I heard him (and the buke) referenced this morning on an RTE1 programme.

Atlantic Dawn

Dan Jaman wrote: »

I heard him (and the buke) referenced this morning on an RTE1 programme.

Pure abuse of the state airwaves