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    #782
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users Posts: 16,134 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    I simply said that the true atheists that I know do not go into churches . They rightly feel that they have no business in them.

    You continue to make the grand mistake of conflating god and religion.


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    #783
    Bristolscale7
    Registered Users Posts: 541 ✭✭✭Bristolscale7


    No true Scotsman?


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    #784
    frostyjacks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    All do they is complain about church interference is all of the above, correct.
    And?

    It's not interefence. Things were working perfectly fine for generations, then along came the little busy bodies that had to go kicking up a fuss and spoil everything.


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    #785
    The Randy Riverbeast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    It's not interefence. Things were working perfectly fine for generations, then along came the little busy bodies that had to go kicking up a fuss and spoil everything.

    Were these the generations of high mortality rate of "illegitimate" children and other children being abused?

    Some of us preferred moving away from that. Apologies if we spoiled things for you. Im impressed you actually replied to someone though.


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    #786
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    I've no problem with the idea of atheism. If someone chooses to reject God, that's up to them. But it seems all they do is complain. Schools, hospitals, jury service, textbooks, voting centres, abortion, marriage, the Angelus....just an endless stream of whinging and moaning.

    How dare a minority complain about being discriminated against, bunch of whingers.


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    #787
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,165 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    You continue to make the grand mistake of conflating god and religion.

    First of all I must confess that I had to look up the meaning of the word conflate. Myself and the circle of friends that I move in would probably never feel the need to use conflate instead of confuse. Anyway I can take it then that the type of atheist that you are would be anti God but pro religion?


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    #788
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Sorry to hear about your uncle Mark but like I say the atheists that I know would pay their respects at the family home or funeral parlour and stay out of the church.
    Perhaps you could tell us a little more about these sad, angry individuals who refuse, for whatever peculiar internal reasons, to go to a family funeral? The only people I know who do this kind of cutting off of their knees to spite their legs stuff are religious. I've certainly never met any atheists, and I've met hundreds, who would do this, or even dream of doing it.

    Personally, I think going to a church service is actually quite funny. Last time I was at one, the priest asked the kids - it was a first communion hooplah - to raise their arms in a Hitler salute, then he asked them to "Close your eyes. Because Jesus has come."

    What a wonderful Father Ted moment that was -- wouldn't have missed it for the world!


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    #789
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users Posts: 17,531 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    I've no problem with the idea of atheism. If someone chooses to reject God, that's up to them. But it seems all they do is complain. Schools, hospitals, jury service, textbooks, voting centres, abortion, marriage, the Angelus....just an endless stream of whinging and moaning.

    I read this as nothing more than "wah wah wah, nobody has been giving me attention so i will say something that hasn't been thought out in a terrible attempt to rile people up."



    Where did that 'stand up and turn your back to the priest at weddings' guy go to? He's the type of atheist realdanbreen loves.


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    #790
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    It's not interefence. Things were working perfectly fine for generations, then along came the little busy bodies that had to go kicking up a fuss and spoil everything.

    Marital rape was legal up until the late 1990s. Damn those feminazis!


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    #791
    Shrap
    Registered Users Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    "the true atheists that I know"

    I'm thinking you should change your name to this ^^

    Very similar in it's own way to "one of my best friends is a *insert category of people*", being used exclusively by someone who does not approve of *insert category of people* to point out where the *insert category of people* is going wrong


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    #792
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,165 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    robindch wrote: »
    Perhaps you could tell us a little more about these sad, angry individuals who refuse, for whatever peculiar internal reasons, to go to a family funeral?


    For someone who is watching my posts like a hawk I'm surprised that you appear to be reading something that wasn't said. These people-who believe me are far from sad or angry-have no problem attending funerals or weddings they just stay out of the church side of things. They understand that some atheists would not wish to offend an elderly relative or whatever but they still see it as people pleasing . Its no big deal BTW some people do it all the time but it's a bit hypocritical to pretend that it is anything other than people pleaseing.


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    #793
    robindch
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    Nicolas Cage wrote: »
    Where did that 'stand up and turn your back to the priest at weddings' guy go to?
    No idea, but I'm assuming s(he) self-immolated on receiving an invitation to a friend's wedding or something like that.


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    #794
    robindch
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    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Its no big deal
    Seems to be a huge deal for you. Nobody else seems to care.


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    #795
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,165 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    robindch wrote: »

    Personally, I think going to a church service is actually quite funny. Last time I was at one, the priest asked the kids - it was a first communion hooplah - to raise their arms in a Hitler salute, then he asked them to "Close your eyes. Because Jesus has come."

    What a wonderful Father Ted moment that was -- wouldn't have missed it for the world!

    I take it you had the Porky pies for lunch Rob!


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    #796
    robindch
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    realdanbreen wrote: »
    I take it you had the Porky pies for lunch Rob!
    Dan is taking a few days off to hyperventilate in peace.


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    #797
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users Posts: 16,134 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Anyway I can take it then that the type of atheist that you are would be anti God but pro religion?

    No. God, no.

    Regarding god, I'm an atheist: I don't believe in a god or gods.

    Regarding religion, I'm entirely pro-choice. Pray to whoever or whatever you like, but don't shove it down my throat, keep it out of state affairs, schools and hospitals. If there's a wedding or a funeral in a church I'll go to give moral support to loved ones or bear witness as the case may be.

    If your religion involves selling babies to 'good' homes or killing infidels then I oppose that.


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    #798
    frostyjacks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    Zillah wrote: »
    How dare a minority complain about being discriminated against, bunch of whingers.

    The minority aren't just whining now, they're telling the majority what they can and can't do! In their own schools! In their own country! Madness.


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    #799
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users Posts: 16,134 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    The minority aren't just whining now, they're telling the majority what they can and can't do! In their own schools! In their own country! Madness.

    The minority are protesting against the [unconstitutional]tyranny of the majority. In their own schools. In their own country! Madness.


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    #800
    Bristolscale7
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    frostyjacks wrote: »
    The minority aren't just whining now, they're telling the majority what they can and can't do! In their own schools! In their own country! Madness.

    Frostyjacks is taking the piss. This is a send up. He is trolling you.


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    #801
    The Randy Riverbeast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    Bristolscale7 wrote: »
    Frostyjacks is taking the piss. This is a send up. He is trolling you.

    It says a lot about a person when the creationist has more credibility.


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    #802
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    First of all I must confess that I had to look up the meaning of the word conflate. Myself and the circle of friends that I move in would probably never feel the need to use conflate instead of confuse. Anyway I can take it then that the type of atheist that you are would be anti God but pro religion?

    An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in God. An atheist could love religion, and adore the idea of God, and wish they could be religious and get filled with joy-joy feelings just sitting around thinking about God, and think every aspect of mass is like going to the fairground, and still be an atheist - because they don't believe it is true.

    If you want to redefine atheist then we may all just mash our faces against the keyboards because we're not communicating any more. I'll start

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    Also "conflate" means to "put together" - a deliberate action - whereas "confuse", in this context, implies mixing things up, which has slightly different connotations.


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    #803
    frostyjacks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    Bristolscale7 wrote: »
    Frostyjacks is taking the piss. This is a send up. He is trolling you.

    Uh oh...rumbled.

    *jumps into Popemobile and speeds off back to the Vatican*


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    #804
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    I simply said that the true atheists that I know do not go into churches . They rightly feel that they have no business in them.
    While you also insulted the "fake" atheists who don't mind attending funerals and weddings.
    Like, we all saw it.
    Unless your personal definition of "I didn't" is "I did"? Hard to know when we don't have access to your private dictionary.


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    #805
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    First of all I must confess that I had to look up the meaning of the word conflate. Myself and the circle of friends that I move in would probably never feel the need to use conflate instead of confuse.
    Because none of you appear to give a hoot about any accepted definition of common English words perhaps?


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    #806
    Kev W
    Registered Users Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Myself and the circle of friends that I move in would probably never feel the need to use conflate instead of confuse.

    Nobody would, they have different meanings. Are you sure you looked it up?


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    #807
    PopePalpatine
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    I'm still none the wiser as to what made the Catholic State of Ireland better than modern Ireland.


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    #808
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Here's a handy table:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefix

    So "a-theist" is "not believing in god".
    And "anti-theist" is "against the belief in god" or perhaps "against those who believe in god".

    K?


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    #809
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,886 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Myself and the circle of friends that I move in would probably never feel the need to use conflate instead of confuse.
    of course you wouldn't. conflate =/= confuse.


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    Shrap
    Registered Users Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    Kev W wrote: »
    Nobody would, they have different meanings. Are you sure you looked it up?

    He is in fact conflating the two words. :cool:


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    #811
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Wait, I'm conflated. No I mean an atheist. No confused.


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