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FSA "How to maximise the new chips use" thread
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Iused2likebusts wrote: »1. Triple captain assume you always captain aguero.
Player 1 uses his TC in a SGW(3) and then also captains aguero in a DGW(4). He gets aguero's points 7 times.
Player 2 uses his TC in a DGW(6) and then you must include a SGW(2). Therefore the benefit of holding it for a DGW is you get aguero's points once. Factor in that the DGW fixture may not be as good as some SGW and the potential boost from it is negligible.
I don't fully agree with this assumption. Well more than I disagree I'm more asking you will you really do it? You? Busts? Who's far from the last for a captain punt
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I mean, you assume Agüero is always captain for his "easy" single fixtures and his double fixtures. OK. What if you get your single GW TC completely wrong? Cause OK it was glorious home to Newcastle. But what about home to WH? Home to Watford? Were these 2 fixtures that bad a call beforehand? Cause here the diff is 46 pts (2x3 + 25 vs 2 + 25x3) !!! Of course Agüero could blank both his DGW games but the odds are lower, aren't they?
Also, Agüero may not be the best DGW TC option. Last year, Benteke & Austin (Benteke was close to 25 pts and Austin got 21 pts) were as good as Agüero (23 pts).
I agree here preventing you can manage a 15 men strong squad (it may be a lot harder than we think, budget wise & mid-term planning wise e.g. who and how to get a good second GK).Iused2likebusts wrote: »2. Bench Boost assume you can get a squad full of DGW players
Player 1 uses it in a SGW he gets points for 15 players and then in a DGW he has 11 players playing twice(22). He gets points for 37 players.
Player 2 uses it ina DGW he gets 15 playing twice(30) and then has 11 in the SGW. He gets points for 41 players.
This is the best chip IMO as statistically you are giving yourself 4 extra players and I feel this one should really be played in a DGW. The TC you are only giving yourself 1 extra player granted it is going to be a really strong player
I partly agree. 2 possible uses for me. As you said when it suits like this coming GW for many who have a depleted defense.Iused2likebusts wrote: »3. MY thoughts on the AOA chip are its totally luck of the draw and I think just play it when it suits. If you gain a couple of points from it you have done well.
But I maintain my OP fantasy is a real possible scenario. Every season there are "small" teams overperforming and offering great cheap options (e.g. Leicester last year). Every year (even last year where it was supposedly less the case) we face a succession of blanks/DGWs come ~GW30.
If, like last year, we can anticipate several GWs before which teams are gonna be affected, I feel the AOA & BB chips can be used very close to each other. The second term WC could actually be used either to quickly build the team to use both chips or to revert to a more "normal" team after having used both.
Because how are you guys gonna build your BB team? It is a task we never ever had to do building a 15 men strong team. It'll be almost impossible to get 5 premium def. So we'll have to get the performing cheapies that are hopefully gonna have a DGW (again Leicester is the perfect example from last year). My feeling is you could build this strong 15 men team around a strong front 8 (money should allow that late in the season and anyway there are always cheap big hitters) and gamble at the back with the performing cheapies (if I continue with my Leicester example, their GK and a def were almost must-haves last year ; a guy like PVA was also perfect for that matter) to use your AOA first and then your BB or vice versa depending on the context.
My idea is your cheap options at the back that would suit a DGW may be benched for a tough away game when you use your AOA (again I'm pretty sure this was the case with Leicester last year and it definitely was for PVA so in my fantasy scenario you'd only need to find another def to bench to use your AOA).
Of course we'll need a scenario as favourable as last year's. But as I said in my OP, I played last year's scenario exactly how I'm describing it above. Just I didn't have these chips to maximise my strategy.
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Hopefully this gives real answers to
whom I'd ask what are the much worse possibilities? No DGW(s)? No big teams in DGW? So what? Villa & QPR last year offered the best DGW return (the ones who went Benteke + Austin + Phillips are still probably laughing from their FPLasmAre ye planning the Bench Boost on a DGW, and have ye really thought it through? That would mean massive point hits, perhaps a WC, perhaps no 6 team DGW except the one where you know Sanchez or Aguero has a double GW at home and you perhaps want to play your Triple chip that week that you had saved. No doubt it would leave you with a WC and Bench Boost late in season in that scenario but there are much worse possibilities too.). 0 -
I don't fully agree with this assumption. Well more than I disagree I'm more asking you will you really do it? You? Busts? Who's far from the last for a captain punt?
I mean, you assume Agüero is always captain for his "easy" single fixtures and his double fixtures. OK. What if you get your single GW TC completely wrong? Cause OK it was glorious home to Newcastle. But what about home to WH? Home to Watford? Were these 2 fixtures that bad a call beforehand? Cause here the diff is 46 pts (2x3 + 25 vs 2 + 25x3) !!! Of course Agüero could blank both his DGW games but the odds are lower, aren't they?
I'm not saying I'll capt aguero every week or that anybody will I just used him as an example . My key point is that by playing the TC in a DGW you get the added benefit of 1 more player over somebody that plays his TC in a SGW. I'd imagine a lot of people don't realise this as it's something I only copped onto this morning when I thought about it. Only the other week I argued that it's madness to use the TC in a SGW but really its not a huge issue when I made that comment I didn't realise the minor difference it really has.
TBH my triple captain will hopefully be used on sanchez in a DGW if he has one as I know he can play games in quick succession without getting injured unlike aguero.
I'll be using my TC in a DGW as statistically it should give a slight edge but like everything in this game we don't know if it will work out like that.0 -
Great posts by Busts above. For once i agree with (and understand
) your maths!
For anyone considering going for a strong front 8 while Aguero is missing and using the AOA GW12 looks a good option.
I'm considering it then with a front 8 along the lines of.....
Hazard v sto
kdb v avl
Mane v sun
Mahrez v WAT
sanchez v TOT
Murray v NEW
Pelle v sun
Vardy v WAT
A few more of the big hitters away than might be ideal but all with potentially big scores and on the other side of the coin not looking a great week for clean sheets for the cheaper defs or the likes of Bellerin or even Kolarov.
Might be able to work Sturridge in by then too who has Palace at home.0 -
Great posts by Busts above. For once i agree with (and understand) your maths!
For anyone considering going for a strong front 8 while Aguero is missing and using the AOA GW12 looks a good option.
I'm considering it then with a front 8 along the lines of.....
Hazard v sto
kdb v avl
Mane v sun
Mahrez v WAT
sanchez v TOT
Murray v NEW
Pelle v sun
Vardy v WAT
A few more of the big hitters away than might be ideal but all with potentially big scores and on the other side of the coin not looking a great week for clean sheets for the cheaper defs or the likes of Bellerin or even Kolarov.
Might be able to work Sturridge in by then too who has Palace at home.
FF has made me realise I have a mathematical brain or atleast I think I have:D
Thats a very strong front 8. With no aguero its even more easy to go with now. If going with it you just need to accept you will leave points on the bench but treat it as a good sign as you can use that player the following week. Chances are if going with 4.5 mid you wouldnt have that benched player in your squad and you would now be looking to bring them in.0 -
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