.22 Pistols

German pointer

After waiting months to see it and
as the new SI has cleared up the issue of the .22 pistols what dealers have .22 pistols in stock at the moment. So as I can go and handle one before I buy.

I feel a road trip coming on ☺

Witcher

Hilltop have four or five in stock at the moment.

German pointer

any idea what they are

Witcher

They've a revolver, .22 Sig, Ruger MKIII 22/45, may have been a 1911 there too. Pat might have more for sale, that's just what he had in the case.

German pointer

got sorted with one today

Tackleberry.

German pointer wrote: »

got sorted with one today

So what did you go for? Stuck a deposit on a ruger mk111 myself.

German pointer

went with the Hammerli Xesse

boc121

Tackleberry. wrote: »

So what did you go for? Stuck a deposit on a ruger mk111 myself.

German pointer wrote: »

went with the Hammerli Xesse

Have been ringing around the last few days not much out there.
Just wondering where ye got sorted?

German pointer

I got it from paddy in Habour house

boc121

German pointer wrote: »

I got it from paddy in Habour house

Thanks for that.

hexosan

German pointer wrote: »

went with the Hammerli Xesse

What sort of money if you don't mind saying.

German pointer

hexosan wrote:

What sort of money if you don't mind saying.

sent you a PM

German pointer

hexosan wrote:

What sort of money if you don't mind saying.

sent you a PM

Tackleberry.

boc121 wrote: »

Have been ringing around the last few days not much out there.
Just wondering where ye got sorted?

I got from Paddy in The Alamo in Kerry

boc121

Tackleberry. wrote: »

I got from Paddy in The Alamo in Kerry

Cheers.

Norinco

Any dealer currently stock Buckmark contour 5.5 urx? cheers

cw67irl

Tannyoky Guns in NI usually have a full range of buckmarks

German pointer

the application went in today so the waiting begins

Norinco

cw67irl wrote: »

Tannyoky Guns in NI usually have a full range of buckmarks

thank you,will ring them tomorrow

garrettod

Norinco wrote: »

Any dealer currently stock Buckmark contour 5.5 urx? cheers

None in Hilltop ?

Norinco

None in Hilltop,there's 1 in NI but won't deal from south RE: pistol as too much hassle he said:(

Wadi14

Norinco wrote: »

None in Hilltop,there's 1 in NI but won't deal from south RE: pistol as too much hassle he said:(

Why not ring some of the dealers up North who will deal with you, and tell them what you want, and even tell them where there is one , or you buy it through your local dealer and get him to import in down .

Whether you buy it in the North or the South or it comes from Germany it will take the same amount of time to process your licence application, so if that's the pistol you want buy it from where ever, and you'll have it soon after your licence is granted.

Cass

Norinco wrote: »

.......... pistol as too much hassle he said:(

I seen this before. In person and from lads on here.

It's laziness really. The dealer just cannot be bothered to do the paperwork. I guarantee if you wave the cash fro the gun under his nose, and have the paperwork (for your end) filled in he'll change his tone).

It's not a big deal at all. You fill in an import form, supplying the dealers details. He applies for an export from the PSNI, and when all paperwork comes through he sends it down. As you may not have the license or to "ease his mind" you can, as said above, do i form the dealer in the North to a dealer in the South.

Wadi14

I have worked through dealers in the North, as I'm only a few miles from the border, but have been told before by a couple dealers that they wouldn't deal, they lost out I went else where and got what I wanted.

clivej

Cass wrote: »

I seen this before. In person and from lads on here.

It's laziness really. The dealer just cannot be bothered to do the paperwork. I guarantee if you wave the cash fro the gun under his nose, and have the paperwork (for your end) filled in he'll change his tone).

It's not a big deal at all. You fill in an import form, supplying the dealers details. He applies for an export from the PSNI, and when all paperwork comes through he sends it down. As you may not have the license or to "ease his mind" you can, as said above, do i form the dealer in the North to a dealer in the South.

The biggest problem with what you are saying Cass is that to get the import license the dealer mush be able to show that a valid firearms license has been issued for the said handgun. A dealer may import a rifle or shotgun as usual.

Cass

clivej wrote: »

The biggest problem with what you are saying Cass is that to get the import license the dealer mush be able to show that a valid firearms license has been issued for the said handgun.

No they don't.

A dealer from the South can import a pistol (or any firearm) from a dealer in the North (or anywhere) with no need to show any license. If that was the case then all dealers would have to license all guns before they sell them. They would do this under their RFD license.

The only "issue" would be payment. The person importing, say the OP, would have to pay the dealer in the North and as such the pistol would be his property. The dealer here then holds it until a license is applied for and gotten. If the person was refused then the pistol is still their property, just they cannot license it and so cannot use it.

BattleCorp

Cass wrote: »

A dealer from the South can import a pistol (or any firearm) from a dealer in the North (or anywhere) with no need to show any license. If that was the case then all dealers would have to license all guns before they sell them. They would do this under their RFD license.

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Are you sure about this Cass?

I was told by a dealer that they can bring in rifles and shotguns without a licence but a licence has to be issued before they can bring in pistols.

Cass

There is no distinction when it comes to importing any unrestricted rifle/shotgun to a pistol. The dealers are covering their arses.

Dealers know that pistols are harder to license than a rifle or shotgun. It's the reason why most keep serial numbers on record rather than the actual firearm. I guarantee if you walked into a dealer, handed him the full price of the pistol, told him to import it and you'd deal with the license later then he'd do it. Without you having a license.

There may be a case where dealers have a harder time importing pistols, but it's not a legal issue, rather a DoJ one. IOW if the dealer wanted to import 10 pistols to have in stock and the DoJ refused him well then he just doesn't get them. However if he goes to import 10 pistols and each pistol has already been granted a license to a person then the DoJ cannot really go against the decision of the Super.

Look at the pistols some dealers have in stock. Where did they come from? They did not take all of them in as trade ins. I know two dealers that have told me that once it's paid for in full, upfront, they'll being in anything i want. It's up to me to get the license after that.


I rarely say i cannot be wrong but in this case i don't think i am. I'll put it this way or ask this. Can anyone show me any legislation that supports the dealers stance? If you can please do, because as far as i'm concerned they are simply covering their asses for the reasons above.

Cass

By the by.

If a person already has a license for the gun then the dealer is redundant as you can do a personal import, bypassing the dealer, and if you wanted could get a visitors pass from the PSNI and go up and collect it.

clivej

Cass wrote: »

No they don't.

A dealer from the South can import a pistol (or any firearm) from a dealer in the North (or anywhere) with no need to show any license. If that was the case then all dealers would have to license all guns before they sell them. They would do this under their RFD license.

The only "issue" would be payment. The person importing, say the OP, would have to pay the dealer in the North and as such the pistol would be his property. The dealer here then holds it until a license is applied for and gotten. If the person was refused then the pistol is still their property, just they cannot license it and so cannot use it.

Cass wrote: »

There is no distinction when it comes to importing any unrestricted rifle/shotgun to a pistol. The dealers are covering their arses.

Dealers know that pistols are harder to license than a rifle or shotgun. It's the reason why most keep serial numbers on record rather than the actual firearm. I guarantee if you walked into a dealer, handed him the full price of the pistol, told him to import it and you'd deal with the license later then he'd do it. Without you having a license.

There may be a case where dealers have a harder time importing pistols, but it's not a legal issue, rather a DoJ one. IOW if the dealer wanted to import 10 pistols to have in stock and the DoJ refused him well then he just doesn't get them. However if he goes to import 10 pistols and each pistol has already been granted a license to a person then the DoJ cannot really go against the decision of the Super.

Look at the pistols some dealers have in stock. Where did they come from? They did not take all of them in as trade ins. I know two dealers that have told me that once it's paid for in full, upfront, they'll being in anything i want. It's up to me to get the license after that.


I rarely say i cannot be wrong but in this case i don't think i am. I'll put it this way or ask this. Can anyone show me any legislation that supports the dealers stance? If you can please do, because as far as i'm concerned they are simply covering their asses for the reasons above.

I have been told directly by the importer of a high number of handguns into Ireland that He "must have a valid license issued on the handgun" before they will get an import license to import the said handgun.
Must talk to you about this next time we meet up.

Cass

If that is the case then it's "illegal". By that i mean it's a policy the DoJ (as the ones that issue import licenses) have invoked rather than a legal position which has it's basis in the firearms act.