Eir rural FTTH thread

Gonzo

The check by address option on the Eir fibre checker is now working as well, when I type in my area, I get the eircode checker, my Eircode fails, every other Eircode in the area passes.

Bored Accountant

Gonzo wrote: »

The check by address option on the Eir fibre checker is now working as well, when I type in my area, I get the eircode checker, my Eircode fails, every other Eircode in the area passes.

Can you order by telephone only?

Gonzo

I can only order using my telephone number but that's not getting me very far since my eircode is failing.

The order submits fine, I get 2 generic emails and then nothing happens and a week later the order gets rejected.

Eir insist that my area is not live till this Wednesday, but my order is the only order in the neighbourhood that's failing, everyone eles orders are fine and they all have confirmed install dates.

Counie88

Got standalone FTTH installed today.
Only the one huawei box installed in attic though. I'm guessing this is cause we didn't want the copper phone line. What ye think?

rob808

Counie88 wrote: »

Got standalone FTTH installed today.
Only the one huawei box installed in attic though. I'm guessing this is cause we didn't want the copper phone line. What ye think?

nice could you post pic of your install and speedtest thanks and enjoy your new broadband.

Counie88

No problem. Speed test was done over WiFi on phone . Got 200mb down and 98 up on Galaxy s6 edge as laptop wasn't available. A screenshot won't attach for some reason. Fibre came in from road through duct as it was still unblocked. I had a power socket installed in attic also and cat 5 down to the router ready to go.

Counie88

No problem. Speed test was done over WiFi on phone . Got 200mb down and 98 up on Galaxy s6 edge as laptop wasn't available. A screenshot won't attach for some reason. Fibre came in from road through duct as it was still unblocked. I had a power socket installed in attic also and cat 5 down to the router ready to go.

Peppa Cig

Counie88 wrote: »

No problem. Speed test was done over WiFi on phone . Got 200mb down and 98 up on Galaxy s6 edge as laptop wasn't available. A screenshot won't attach for some reason. Fibre came in from road through duct as it was still unblocked. I had a power socket installed in attic also and cat 5 down to the router ready to go.

Thanks,

How did they get from duct to attic with fibre?

How you get cat 5 down from attic? Did they supply cat 5?

Thanks

tsue921i8wljb3

Counie88 wrote: »

No problem. Speed test was done over WiFi on phone . Got 200mb down and 98 up on Galaxy s6 edge as laptop wasn't available. A screenshot won't attach for some reason. Fibre came in from road through duct as it was still unblocked. I had a power socket installed in attic also and cat 5 down to the router ready to go.

Did he not bother connecting the ODP (leftmost box in your picture)?

Peppa Cig

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Did he not bother connecting the ODP (leftmost box in your picture)?

What's the ODP for?

Will fibre broadband work without it connected ?

Gonzo

Counie88 wrote: »

No problem. Speed test was done over WiFi on phone . Got 200mb down and 98 up on Galaxy s6 edge as laptop wasn't available. A screenshot won't attach for some reason. Fibre came in from road through duct as it was still unblocked. I had a power socket installed in attic also and cat 5 down to the router ready to go.

why would you want it installed in the attic, that would be real awkward to get to!.

Was there not an option to install the modem in your room of choice?

ED E

Gonzo wrote: »

why would you want it installed in the attic, that would be real awkward to get to!.

Was there not an option to install the modem in your room of choice?

You should never need to touch the ONT, no real problem hiding it away up there.

Johnboy1951

ED E wrote: »

You should never need to touch the ONT, no real problem hiding it away up there.

Except having an unmonitored electrical appliance permanently plugged in there.

Not a good idea IMO.

banjopeter

From Counie88's picture, looks like ODP is connected with black cable running behind.

BandMember

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Except having an unmonitored electrical appliance permanently plugged in there.

Not a good idea IMO.

I completely agree, that's why I would never be happy with an attic install to be honest. I'd much rather everything be downstairs somewhere in the main house.

tsue921i8wljb3

banjopeter wrote: »

From Counie88's picture, looks like ODP is connected with black cable running behind.

It looked to me like he bypassed the ODP and connected the drop cable to the ONT. I could be mistaken though.

Johnboy1951

banjopeter wrote: »

From Counie88's picture, looks like ODP is connected with black cable running behind.

The question is from where is that black cable coming, that apparently has a green adaptor where it plugs into the ONT in the pic?

plodder

I guess we're at the bleeding edge with this technology, but that combination of cables, PSUs and boxes (ODP, ONT) before you even get to the router, has quite a primitive look to it. I can imagine resistance in some households (like mine ) to putting stuff like this in the hallway for example. So, I can see why some want to stick it in the attic. They really need to come up with better solutions long term, like combining ONT and router in one box, and maybe the ODP as well.

tsue921i8wljb3

Peppa Cig wrote: »

What's the ODP for?

Will fibre broadband work without it connected ?

I may be mistaken and it could actually be connected in the above picture.

The ODP is where the drop cable from outside is terminated. Then a small pre made fibre patch lead is used to connect to the ONT.

The Cush posted eir documentation here.

The Cush

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

It looked to me like he bypassed the ODP and connected the drop cable to the ONT.

It looks that way alright.

@Counie88
Can you confirm that the incoming fibre cable is connected directly to the ONT, bypassing the ODP?

Gonzo

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Except having an unmonitored electrical appliance permanently plugged in there.

Not a good idea IMO.

When ever I eventually get installed, I think I would want it in the room where I have my computers, I'd be worried about having this electrical unit running full time in the attic, what if a spark happened, could be a fire hazard, there also used to be a bee hive up in our attic, not sure i'd want lads installing up there.

banjopeter

Probably a lot safer in the attic, as there is plenty of air and nothing to interfere with it. Most attics would have cables for lighting circuits etc.

oscarBravo

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Except having an unmonitored electrical appliance permanently plugged in there.

Not a good idea IMO.

Pretty much every attic I've ever been in had a powered distribution amp for TV. Unmonitored electrical appliances in attics are par for the course.

plodder wrote: »

They really need to come up with better solutions long term, like combining ONT and router in one box, and maybe the ODP as well.

Combined ONT and router can't happen. The ONT belongs to open eir; the router belongs to the retail ISP.

Bored Accountant

banjopeter wrote: »

Probably a lot safer in the attic, as there is plenty of air and nothing to interfere with it. Most attics would have cables for lighting circuits etc.

Attic can get very hot in summer which may reduce the life span because temp of the devices are too hot and no fan to cool them down.

derekbro

oscarBravo wrote: »

Combined ONT and router can't happen. The ONT belongs to open eir; the router belongs to the retail ISP.

What about ODP and ONT together?

Counie88

OK guys. The pic below has exactly what's connect to what. The box on the left and other cable was just not used. From what I can see. The fibre is coming in from the splice box out in road through the old duct and into the white powered Huawei box on the bottom left. With regard to the attic. I have no issue with it nd want it out of way. We already have recessed lighting and power sockets and booters for tvs up here and never had any problems.
Did a lan test an got speeds of 790 mb

tsue921i8wljb3

Counie88 wrote: »

OK guys. The pic below has exactly what's connect to what. The box on the left and other cable was just not used. From what I can see. The fibre is coming in from the splice box out in road through the old duct and into the white powered Huawei box on the bottom left. With regard to the attic. I have no issue with it nd want it out of way. We already have recessed lighting and power sockets and booters for tvs up here and never had any problems.
Did a lan test an got speeds of 790 mb

I wonder why he bothered putting up the ODP at all if he was not going to use it?

ctlsleh

plodder wrote: »

I guess we're at the bleeding edge with this technology, but that combination of cables, PSUs and boxes (ODP, ONT) before you even get to the router, has quite a primitive look to it. I can imagine resistance in some households (like mine ) to putting stuff like this in the hallway for example. So, I can see why some want to stick it in the attic. They really need to come up with better solutions long term, like combining ONT and router in one box, and maybe the ODP as well.

this is of course possible from every GPON vendor, its not new, bear in mind GPON has been deploytd for ~15years already. Its more related to how Siro partner with the retailing ISP that determines why they terminate the service and offer an ethernet connection.
they do that so a retailer/ISP can then provide their home gateway when a subscriber signs up and it means Siro can partner with any retailer, they are not limited

plodder

derekbro wrote:

What about ODP and ONT together?

Right. It's a bit like splitting a DSL modem/router into two separate boxes for the modem and the router. Maybe in the early days that's how it was done, but not now.

oscarBravo wrote: »

Combined ONT and router can't happen. The ONT belongs to open eir; the router belongs to the retail ISP.

But, that's an organisational thing rather than a sound technical reason. I can see some end users asking why they have to supply sockets for two powered devices, where they had one before.

So long as the equipment is supplied by Openeir, I can't think of a good reason (other than it doesn't exist yet ) why all these functions can't be provided in one powered box.

plodder

ctlsleh wrote: »

this is of course possible from every GPON vendor, its not new, bear in mind GPON has been deploytd for ~15years already.

Yes, that's a fair point. At the end of the day, people will suck up whatever perceived inconvenience there is for the service supplied. Though the fact people are shoving it into the attic, shows aesthetics does matter too

Its more related to how Siro partner with the retailing ISP that determines why they terminate the service and offer an ethernet connection.
they do that so a retailer/ISP can then provide their home gateway when a subscriber signs up and it means Siro can partner with any retailer, they are not limited

What I was imagining is some kind of semi open platform that Openeir (or Siro) might deploy that contains all the hardware and a single power source. The retail/ISP would just add their bells and whistles as software to that platform. I wouldn't be surprised if it moves in that direction long term.