Neither driver willing to give way.

Severard

These two are a prime example of why people get road rage, yet in this situation they are blocking each other in a tunnel. Although the woman has right of way, the old man is almost down the tunnel. The stand-off lasts for 35 minutes or more. The old man apparently wasn't able to reverse his car & judging by his attempts, it seems like it's the case. As for the woman, she wasn't able to reverse her car because... well I'm sure you can see why in the video.

Anyone else ever see anything so stupid from two drivers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TR4iBC_iaw

kneemos

Ello ello,what's going on ere then?

Mesrine65

35+ minutes, where was Plod?

Mother Brain

Look at the cars they're both driving...

Wonder what the problem was?

Sheep Lover

What a silly woman.

NachoBusiness

Seen a film last year at JDIFF (Italian I think) which was about this very scenario, where a road becomes blocked because neither driver is willing to give way. Not sure if they ever reached an impasse or not, I fell asleep.

Fr_Dougal

Mesrine65 wrote: »

35+ minutes, where was Plod?

Stuck in traffic.

jonon9

And why didn't anyone call the police within the 40 minute standoff? I would be really pissed off if I was stuck in that traffic.

ButtersSuki

It seems like every time I use the entrance to the Phoenix Park that's between the Halfway House Pub and the main Castleknock entrance (can't for the life of me think of the name for it now!) there's an incident like this, thankfully not of the 35minute variety though.

biko

UK cars should always give way to Irish cars.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Good stuff, thanks for sharing, I love watching this type of thing.

vicwatson

Two pig ignorants, is life that long ffs?

Pinch Flat

This happens regularly enough on a country lane that leads to the strawberry beds near my house. Usually they end up beeping at each other - like the more you beep, it will slowly dissolve the car in front of me.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Ok having watched it I got a few chuckles but I couldn't understand why nobody offered to back up the man's car if he was unable to do so. Also the woman was weird, she wasn't even acknowledging the people speaking to her.

kneemos

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Ok having watched it I got a few chuckles but I couldn't understand why nobody offered to back up the man's car if he was unable to do so. Also the woman was weird, she wasn't even acknowledging the people speaking to her.

She had the courage of her convictions.

rizzodun

Is it unreasonable judging from that clip to lay all the blame at the feet of the woman? She would have clearly seen the other car was already in the tunnel on approach so why didn't she just slow the hell down and let him clear the tunnel?

HardenendMan

Ok the auld man shouldn't be on the road because he can't reverse a car.

But why on earth didn't one of the chaps just jump in and do it for him?

I've had to jump into cars sometimes to help elderly people reverse out of car parks.

rizzodun

HardenendMan wrote: »

Ok the auld man shouldn't be on the road because he can't reverse a car.

But why on earth didn't one of the chaps just jump in and do it for him?

I've had to jump into cars sometimes to help elderly people reverse out of car parks.

Completely off topic but I remember running out of a filling station shop after paying for fuel and jumping into my car, whacking my knee off the steering wheel as my wife always had a habit of pulling the seat forward when she drove it and never putting it back, I turned in pain to her in the passenger seat and screamed "for fucks sake!", only to be met with a blank, yet terrified stare from some old doll, I had jumped into an identical car parked at the pump behind mine. The husband was still in the shop so I made a hasty getaway.

EDIT: In my own car

skibum

Yer wan was a right "Cee U Next Tuesday", what ever meds she is on for the menopause are not working, need to triple her dose.....

boobar

30 minutes into the indecent?

KERSPLAT!

I only watched a few seconds but no way would I have been able to keep my cool with either of them if I was stuck behind

Sheep Lover

Who said women can't park..

Badly Drunk Boy

Severard wrote: »

Although the woman has right of way, the old man is almost down the tunnel.

Eh, that's not a tunnel. That's a bridge.

housetypeb

She won.

DakarVert

Yer wan was a wagon.

But in fairness the old guy shouldn't be driving if he couldn't reverse. Especially since the Merc is an auto.


Here we have an elderly man and a middle aged women. Both deemed as 'Safe Drivers' with cheap insurance.

Sand

Both of them are definitely not handling the situation well. She apparently had right of way, the ould lad was in the wrong. Christ, the fellah was driving a car whilst claiming to be unable to perform the fairly simple manoeuvre of putting it in reverse and holding a straight line. Take the handbrake off, keep the hands on the steering wheel and there is enough big men there to roll the car back for him if he's that bad a driver. One of the lads there could even offer to jump in and reverse it for him.

The crowd ganged up on the female driver because they thought she would be the easiest to break. I wouldn't describe myself as a feminist, but its fairly easy to see the dynamic at play there.

Absurd confrontation either way.

ALiasEX

rizzodun wrote: »

Is it unreasonable judging from that clip to lay all the blame at the feet of the woman? She would have clearly seen the other car was already in the tunnel on approach so why didn't she just slow the hell down and let him clear the tunnel?

She could have entered first or around the same time and she braked where she is and expected him to break and reverse but he kept driving until their bumpers said how do you do.

Muahahaha

Sand wrote: »

The crowd ganged up on the female driver because they thought she would be the easiest to break. I wouldn't describe myself as a feminist, but its fairly easy to see the dynamic at play there.

Absurd confrontation either way.

yeah they defintely ganged up on her. But it was perhaps made easier by her top being down whereas the old boy seemed to have windows and doors locked and wasn't listening to anybody.

I think in these situations someone has to be the bigger person and back down. The old lad didn't seem all there tbh but yer one knew exactly what she was at. Several drivers complained directly to her about how selfish she was being but she didnt even flinch.

Anyway the whole thing was truly absurd, makes me glad I ride a motorbike so I can just ride around this kind of stuff and be on my way. I can only imagine the length of the traffic jam they created in both directions and the several hundred people they delayed.

rizzodun

ALiasEX wrote: »

She could have entered first or around the same time and she braked where she is and expected him to break and reverse but he kept driving until their bumpers said how do you do.

True I suppose seeing the start could really change the opinion. TBH if it was me I'd throw it into reverse and back up, but I've met people like that who think 'right of way' completely circumvents 'common sense'

ALiasEX

Plot twist: she couldn't reverse either but wasn't letting on.

razorblunt

Wow, that clip is infuriating. The woman was being completely unreasonable to not back down even though he was in the wrong. But how can you not reverse an automatic in a straight line? How did it take that long for them to convince him to lower his window?

ALiasEX

He must have been used to a manual

Tin Foil Hat

I drive for a living. If I meet an old person, or a woman from her late thirties upwards in a big or expensive car, on a narrow road I will always end up in reverse; even if I have to go back 100m versus their 10. Neither of the two of them can, or will, get out of the way.

Old people are allowed to keep their licenses for far too long. It's not yer mans fault though. He's allowed to keep driving, so he does. I'll probably be the same in thirty odd years if I'm still alive.
Her though! Christ! She only had to go back 7 or 8 meters, or even throw two wheels up on the footpath on her side of the road (it looks wide enough in the video), and everyone can be on their way. Imaging the poor fukker married to that stubborn, spiteful kunt.

Mankyspuds

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

I drive for a living. If I meet an old person, or a woman from her late thirties upwards in a big or expensive car, on a narrow road I will always end up in reverse; even if I have to go back 100m versus their 10. Neither of the two of them can, or will, get out of the way.

Old people are allowed to keep their licenses for far too long. It's not yer mans fault though. He's allowed to keep driving, so he does. I'll probably be the same in thirty odd years if I'm still alive.
Her though! Christ! She only had to go back 7 or 8 meters, or even throw two wheels up on the footpath on her side of the road (it looks wide enough in the video), and everyone can be on their way. Imaging the poor fukker married to that stubborn, spiteful kunt.

I agree with you. I come across this a lot when I leave my home. Its a blind gateway one side and I could be 3/4 the way (edging out) making my turn and I'll get a fúcking oul'wan (and its ALWAYS a fúcking oul'wan) who will swerve around me blaring the horn doing her 15km per hour giving me the daggers. Wánkers!!!

Sand

Muahahaha wrote: »

yeah they defintely ganged up on her. But it was perhaps made easier by her top being down whereas the old boy seemed to have windows and doors locked and wasn't listening to anybody.

I think in these situations someone has to be the bigger person and back down. The old lad didn't seem all there tbh but yer one knew exactly what she was at. Several drivers complained directly to her about how selfish she was being but she didnt even flinch.

Anyway the whole thing was truly absurd, makes me glad I ride a motorbike so I can just ride around this kind of stuff and be on my way. I can only imagine the length of the traffic jam they created in both directions and the several hundred people they delayed.

I think the key thing is she was actually in the right. She had right of way. But rather than backing her, most of the fellahs were rounding on her trying to bully her into backing off. Right is right, and wrong is wrong. The ould lad is the one who should have backed off, and he is the one who the bystanders should have been bullying (if anyone at all).

But the natural assumption is the woman should back down. You can see even from some of the posts on here the outrage that she didn't back down, even though everyone accept she had right of way. The ould fellah gets off with a nudge and a wink. Ould fellahs, what are you going to do right?

Like I said, I'm not a feminist, but I do have an allergy to bull****.

HardenendMan

An analogy for this scenario. If the same two people were walking through a gateway/narrow corridor, would they act the dick like they did in the car? Of course not, its silly and bad manners. People become different beasts when they get behind the wheel.

Tin Foil Hat

Sand wrote: »

I think the key thing is she was actually in the right. She had right of way. But rather than backing her, most of the fellahs were rounding on her trying to bully her into backing off. Right is right, and wrong is wrong. The ould lad is the one who should have backed off, and he is the one who the bystanders should have been bullying (if anyone at all).

But the natural assumption is the woman should back down. You can see even from some of the posts on here the outrage that she didn't back down, even though everyone accept she had right of way. The ould fellah gets off with a nudge and a wink. Ould fellahs, what are you going to do right?

Like I said, I'm not a feminist, but I do have an allergy to bull****.

It's not obvious at all that she is in the right. The position of the cars suggests that he was in the tunnel first, meaning she should have waited. The road narrows on her side, which also suggests that she should have waited. There's also a low footpath on her side, which gives her more space to get out of the way. We'll never know without seeing the start of the video.

Also, the auld fella did not get of lightly. The guy in the hi-vis-vest gave him a bollocking, telling him he'd lose his license if the cops arrived.

As I said in a previous post - I drive for a living. If two people meet on a narrow road, then the person who has to put in the least effort generally gets out of the way. In this case, it's yer wan.

the groutch

I've seen worse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egsdc7tZ_xc

jay-me

It was clear that the reason people "picked" on the woman is that her top was down and she was being a grade A Kunt. Nothing to do with her being of the weaker sex or of the band of the worst drivers since the wheel hit the ground spinning. While she may have been in the right initially.. 35 minutes later she is so far from the right she might as well have flown a plane of disabled schoolkids into Buckingham palace! There is no excuse for holding people up for 35 minutes to prove a point or to have your right of way! That is inexcusably kuntish behavior and she knew it!

By the looks of it the old man clearly wasn't just taking the pish to be a kunt and therefore he ended up inadvertently being in the right! And as you saw he got a good bolockin too!

I am a feminist by the way!

Hotblack Desiato

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

It's not obvious at all that she is in the right.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/viral-video/11887686/Watch-stubborn-drivers-cause-40-minute-stand-off.html

'A middle-aged woman in a convertible Mercedes had entered the tunnel heading north towards Maidenhead. A sign at the side of the road stated that she had right of way.'

One like this



and a Stop or Give Way sign at the other end.

That doesn't excuse unreasonably delaying traffic to prove a point. Also, anyone incapable of operating their car should not hold a licence, if the car's reverse gear wasn't functioning it would be unroadworthy, same goes for the driver!

nxbyveromdwjpg

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/viral-video/11887686/Watch-stubborn-drivers-cause-40-minute-stand-off.html

'A middle-aged woman in a convertible Mercedes had entered the tunnel heading north towards Maidenhead. A sign at the side of the road stated that she had right of way.'

One like this



and a Stop or Give Way sign at the other end.

That doesn't excuse unreasonably delaying traffic to prove a point. Also, anyone incapable of operating their car should not hold a licence, if the car's reverse gear wasn't functioning it would be unroadworthy, same goes for the driver!

It depends on what stage he was at when she entered the tunnel. If he was where he is when the video starts, then she is 100% a grade a prick for starting down the tunnel and blocking it on him.

If as someone suggested, they saw each other on entrance and he kept going then he's as bad and yes she had the right of way so it would have been him who 'started it'.

We'd need to see the start.

They both come across as complete morons anyway.

Mesrine65

Xaracatz

Unbelievable. Both of them were wrong, but at least the guy had a reason not to back up (in that he couldn't). Who knows, he could have been in a rental that was different to what he was familiar with and panicking.

She had no reason other than that she was being stubborn for no apparent reason, even when she was told that this meant that children weren't being picked up from school because of this.

I really can't understand those types of completely selfish people.

Hotblack Desiato

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/viral-video/11887686/Watch-stubborn-drivers-cause-40-minute-stand-off.html

'A middle-aged woman in a convertible Mercedes had entered the tunnel heading north towards Maidenhead. A sign at the side of the road stated that she had right of way.'

One like this



and a Stop or Give Way sign at the other end.

That doesn't excuse unreasonably delaying traffic to prove a point. Also, anyone incapable of operating their car should not hold a licence, if the car's reverse gear wasn't functioning it would be unroadworthy, same goes for the driver!

I knew the tunnel seemed familiar
Forlease Rd, Maidenhad

Mint Sauce

Thats not a tunnel. Any thing where you can see light at the other end before you enter it is just a bridge or underpass.

frozenfrozen

Everyone involved was an idiot.
Hello can one of you please reverse I need to get past
'no',
'I can't reverse',
Will I reverse for you?
'yes'.
Crisis averted.

Fratton Fred

Hah, I know that bridge very well. that is in a pretty affluent part of Maidenhead, on the road towards Bray (where the fat duck is).

The merc is about ten metres past a give way sign, he would have easily seen her coming and yet still did not yield.

At the risk of sounding like a feminazi, her only crime is being blonde and driving a flash convertible, which is why Facebook seems to have turned on her.

Shred

ButtersSuki wrote: »

It seems like every time I use the entrance to the Phoenix Park that's between the Halfway House Pub and the main Castleknock entrance (can't for the life of me think of the name for it now!) there's an incident like this, thankfully not of the 35minute variety though.

There's two types of ignorance at play here daily -

1. Cars coming in ignoring the yield sign.
2. A second/third car comes out to sit behind the first one waiting to get out onto Blackhorse Avenue and blocks the gate causing queues.

It can be a pain in the balls.

Then there's the ignorant twats coming up Skreen Road from Blackhorse Avenue not only ignoring the parked cars obstructing their paths (a city-wide phenomenon) and plonking themselves in the middle of the road stopping for no one, but also speeding to boot; one of these days someone getting out of a parked car is going to get creamed.

mudstack

I would have reversed had I been in either position.

Case of two spanners meeting regardless of age or gender.

I'm sure the woman would have reversed had it been her father in the other car although on second thoughts, maybe not.

Hotblack Desiato

Xaracatz wrote: »

Unbelievable. Both of them were wrong, but at least the guy had a reason not to back up (in that he couldn't). Who knows, he could have been in a rental that was different to what he was familiar with and panicking.

If he's not competent to operate the vehicle he should not be driving it, end of.

katydid

Sheep Lover wrote: »

What a silly woman.

Silly woman? She had right of way. The eejit in the other car should have backed up. She was right to hold her ground if she had right of way.