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Neither driver willing to give way.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭ALiasEX


    He must have been used to a manual


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    I drive for a living. If I meet an old person, or a woman from her late thirties upwards in a big or expensive car, on a narrow road I will always end up in reverse; even if I have to go back 100m versus their 10. Neither of the two of them can, or will, get out of the way.

    Old people are allowed to keep their licenses for far too long. It's not yer mans fault though. He's allowed to keep driving, so he does. I'll probably be the same in thirty odd years if I'm still alive.
    Her though! Christ! She only had to go back 7 or 8 meters, or even throw two wheels up on the footpath on her side of the road (it looks wide enough in the video), and everyone can be on their way. Imaging the poor fukker married to that stubborn, spiteful kunt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Mankyspuds


    I drive for a living. If I meet an old person, or a woman from her late thirties upwards in a big or expensive car, on a narrow road I will always end up in reverse; even if I have to go back 100m versus their 10. Neither of the two of them can, or will, get out of the way.

    Old people are allowed to keep their licenses for far too long. It's not yer mans fault though. He's allowed to keep driving, so he does. I'll probably be the same in thirty odd years if I'm still alive.
    Her though! Christ! She only had to go back 7 or 8 meters, or even throw two wheels up on the footpath on her side of the road (it looks wide enough in the video), and everyone can be on their way. Imaging the poor fukker married to that stubborn, spiteful kunt.


    I agree with you. I come across this a lot when I leave my home. Its a blind gateway one side and I could be 3/4 the way (edging out) making my turn and I'll get a fúcking oul'wan (and its ALWAYS a fúcking oul'wan) who will swerve around me blaring the horn doing her 15km per hour giving me the daggers. Wánkers!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,280 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    yeah they defintely ganged up on her. But it was perhaps made easier by her top being down whereas the old boy seemed to have windows and doors locked and wasn't listening to anybody.

    I think in these situations someone has to be the bigger person and back down. The old lad didn't seem all there tbh but yer one knew exactly what she was at. Several drivers complained directly to her about how selfish she was being but she didnt even flinch.

    Anyway the whole thing was truly absurd, makes me glad I ride a motorbike so I can just ride around this kind of stuff and be on my way. I can only imagine the length of the traffic jam they created in both directions and the several hundred people they delayed.

    I think the key thing is she was actually in the right. She had right of way. But rather than backing her, most of the fellahs were rounding on her trying to bully her into backing off. Right is right, and wrong is wrong. The ould lad is the one who should have backed off, and he is the one who the bystanders should have been bullying (if anyone at all).

    But the natural assumption is the woman should back down. You can see even from some of the posts on here the outrage that she didn't back down, even though everyone accept she had right of way. The ould fellah gets off with a nudge and a wink. Ould fellahs, what are you going to do right?

    Like I said, I'm not a feminist, but I do have an allergy to bull****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭HardenendMan


    An analogy for this scenario. If the same two people were walking through a gateway/narrow corridor, would they act the dick like they did in the car? Of course not, its silly and bad manners. People become different beasts when they get behind the wheel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    Sand wrote: »
    I think the key thing is she was actually in the right. She had right of way. But rather than backing her, most of the fellahs were rounding on her trying to bully her into backing off. Right is right, and wrong is wrong. The ould lad is the one who should have backed off, and he is the one who the bystanders should have been bullying (if anyone at all).

    But the natural assumption is the woman should back down. You can see even from some of the posts on here the outrage that she didn't back down, even though everyone accept she had right of way. The ould fellah gets off with a nudge and a wink. Ould fellahs, what are you going to do right?

    Like I said, I'm not a feminist, but I do have an allergy to bull****.

    It's not obvious at all that she is in the right. The position of the cars suggests that he was in the tunnel first, meaning she should have waited. The road narrows on her side, which also suggests that she should have waited. There's also a low footpath on her side, which gives her more space to get out of the way. We'll never know without seeing the start of the video.

    Also, the auld fella did not get of lightly. The guy in the hi-vis-vest gave him a bollocking, telling him he'd lose his license if the cops arrived.

    As I said in a previous post - I drive for a living. If two people meet on a narrow road, then the person who has to put in the least effort generally gets out of the way. In this case, it's yer wan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭jay-me


    It was clear that the reason people "picked" on the woman is that her top was down and she was being a grade A Kunt. Nothing to do with her being of the weaker sex or of the band of the worst drivers since the wheel hit the ground spinning. While she may have been in the right initially.. 35 minutes later she is so far from the right she might as well have flown a plane of disabled schoolkids into Buckingham palace! There is no excuse for holding people up for 35 minutes to prove a point or to have your right of way! That is inexcusably kuntish behavior and she knew it!

    By the looks of it the old man clearly wasn't just taking the pish to be a kunt and therefore he ended up inadvertently being in the right! And as you saw he got a good bolockin too!

    I am a feminist by the way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,974 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It's not obvious at all that she is in the right.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/viral-video/11887686/Watch-stubborn-drivers-cause-40-minute-stand-off.html

    'A middle-aged woman in a convertible Mercedes had entered the tunnel heading north towards Maidenhead. A sign at the side of the road stated that she had right of way.'

    One like this

    010372.jpg

    and a Stop or Give Way sign at the other end.

    That doesn't excuse unreasonably delaying traffic to prove a point. Also, anyone incapable of operating their car should not hold a licence, if the car's reverse gear wasn't functioning it would be unroadworthy, same goes for the driver!

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/viral-video/11887686/Watch-stubborn-drivers-cause-40-minute-stand-off.html

    'A middle-aged woman in a convertible Mercedes had entered the tunnel heading north towards Maidenhead. A sign at the side of the road stated that she had right of way.'

    One like this

    010372.jpg

    and a Stop or Give Way sign at the other end.

    That doesn't excuse unreasonably delaying traffic to prove a point. Also, anyone incapable of operating their car should not hold a licence, if the car's reverse gear wasn't functioning it would be unroadworthy, same goes for the driver!

    It depends on what stage he was at when she entered the tunnel. If he was where he is when the video starts, then she is 100% a grade a prick for starting down the tunnel and blocking it on him.

    If as someone suggested, they saw each other on entrance and he kept going then he's as bad and yes she had the right of way so it would have been him who 'started it'.

    We'd need to see the start.

    They both come across as complete morons anyway.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,949 ✭✭✭Mesrine65




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Xaracatz


    Unbelievable. Both of them were wrong, but at least the guy had a reason not to back up (in that he couldn't). Who knows, he could have been in a rental that was different to what he was familiar with and panicking.

    She had no reason other than that she was being stubborn for no apparent reason, even when she was told that this meant that children weren't being picked up from school because of this.

    I really can't understand those types of completely selfish people.


  • Posts: 5,249 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/viral-video/11887686/Watch-stubborn-drivers-cause-40-minute-stand-off.html

    'A middle-aged woman in a convertible Mercedes had entered the tunnel heading north towards Maidenhead. A sign at the side of the road stated that she had right of way.'

    One like this

    010372.jpg

    and a Stop or Give Way sign at the other end.

    That doesn't excuse unreasonably delaying traffic to prove a point. Also, anyone incapable of operating their car should not hold a licence, if the car's reverse gear wasn't functioning it would be unroadworthy, same goes for the driver!
    I knew the tunnel seemed familiar
    Forlease Rd, Maidenhad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Thats not a tunnel. Any thing where you can see light at the other end before you enter it is just a bridge or underpass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Everyone involved was an idiot.
    Hello can one of you please reverse I need to get past
    'no',
    'I can't reverse',
    Will I reverse for you?
    'yes'.
    Crisis averted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Hah, I know that bridge very well. that is in a pretty affluent part of Maidenhead, on the road towards Bray (where the fat duck is).

    The merc is about ten metres past a give way sign, he would have easily seen her coming and yet still did not yield.

    At the risk of sounding like a feminazi, her only crime is being blonde and driving a flash convertible, which is why Facebook seems to have turned on her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭Shred


    It seems like every time I use the entrance to the Phoenix Park that's between the Halfway House Pub and the main Castleknock entrance (can't for the life of me think of the name for it now!) there's an incident like this, thankfully not of the 35minute variety though.

    There's two types of ignorance at play here daily -

    1. Cars coming in ignoring the yield sign.
    2. A second/third car comes out to sit behind the first one waiting to get out onto Blackhorse Avenue and blocks the gate causing queues.

    It can be a pain in the balls.

    Then there's the ignorant twats coming up Skreen Road from Blackhorse Avenue not only ignoring the parked cars obstructing their paths (a city-wide phenomenon) and plonking themselves in the middle of the road stopping for no one, but also speeding to boot; one of these days someone getting out of a parked car is going to get creamed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭mudstack


    I would have reversed had I been in either position.

    Case of two spanners meeting regardless of age or gender.

    I'm sure the woman would have reversed had it been her father in the other car although on second thoughts, maybe not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,974 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Xaracatz wrote: »
    Unbelievable. Both of them were wrong, but at least the guy had a reason not to back up (in that he couldn't). Who knows, he could have been in a rental that was different to what he was familiar with and panicking.

    If he's not competent to operate the vehicle he should not be driving it, end of.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭katydid


    What a silly woman.

    Silly woman? She had right of way. The eejit in the other car should have backed up. She was right to hold her ground if she had right of way.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭katydid


    razorblunt wrote: »
    Wow, that clip is infuriating. The woman was being completely unreasonable to not back down even though he was in the wrong. But how can you not reverse an automatic in a straight line? How did it take that long for them to convince him to lower his window?
    Why was she being unreasonable?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    katydid wrote: »
    Why was she being unreasonable?

    Because she didn't back up, which she easily could have. If she had any decency she would have taken into account that the elderly man wasn't fit to be on the road but no, she had to hold up everyone just 'because she was in the right'. To me, that's the definition of being unreasonable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    katydid wrote: »
    Why was she being unreasonable?

    It gets to the stage of asking what is she getting from holding her ground, it wasn't just her vs the numpty who couldn't reverse anymore. There were people there imploring her to just reverse as they had kids to pick up etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    Happened me once- I had right of way, nearly at the end of a long tight road which opens up onto a much wider road - axhole in a BMW turns onto the road and instead of waiting until I got past him he drove into the tight road and then stopped dead, blocking me. He actually expected me to reverse the whole road (a road lined both sides with parked cars)

    I sat there and refused to move - no way was I going to even attempt to reverse, one wrong move and I'd have scraped cars. All he had to do was reverse like a tiny bit, nothing in his way, no cars where he was.

    People on the street actually had to tell him to cop on and move, he was that stupid. He wasn't an old or infirm fella either just a dick. Eventually he moved and I carried on my journey.

    Caught him at it again the next week with some poor young fella in a micra and an L plate (I know, I know, he should have had someone in the car with him). Poor guy was actually trying to reverse back and was struggling badly. A random stranger came to his rescue but still, what a dick move on BMW drivers part!:mad:


    Looking at that video though - the lady should have moved back, she had loads of room. That was just silly carry on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Fackin 'ell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,105 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I'm afraid given the two individuals concerned, this was the inevitable outcome. Mouthy middle-aged bint in soft top Merc and mouthy middle-aged dope in Merc saloon with carpet-dealer personal plate, 'SL55 LEN'. I mean does Len not even realise the SL55 is a sports car??

    Commonality? Two Mercs. They shouldve just brought in the army engineers, detonated the bridge down on top of them and left them there as a memorial to w@nkerdom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Feed Up


    Just wondering and I have to be careful here. Happened to my M in L. She was living alone and driving before she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. Took a period of time for family members to see that something was amiss.

    On the law of averages there must be people driving every day with undiagnosed conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,105 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Feed Up wrote: »

    On the law of averages there must be people driving every day with undiagnosed conditions.

    Yes, in motor racing they call it 'Cockpit Thrombosis' - a clot behind the wheel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    I don't get how the guy is so bad at reversing? Even if he had problems driving it seems a bit strange to immediately start turning into the wall thats not bad driving its bizarre.Hopefully somebody in authority sees this and he gets his license revoked because if he can't hold a straight line in a powerful car thats dangerous.
    He starts getting it from the crowd from 3 minutes into the clip, I would guess the lady is focused on because she has her roof down, the old lad seems to keep rolling his window up, I'd argue he is more of a dick


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭katydid


    razorblunt wrote: »
    It gets to the stage of asking what is she getting from holding her ground, it wasn't just her vs the numpty who couldn't reverse anymore. There were people there imploring her to just reverse as they had kids to pick up etc.

    She had right of way. Why didn't they implore the twit in the other car, who was in the wrong?


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