IStick trouble

moleyv

Yes consumer law is a factor.

What is an istick? It is a battery. How are battery rated with regards to lifetime?

They are rated in how many times they can be recharged. What is reasonable?

We all know how phone batteries and laptop batteries last less over time. Maybe a year or two at optimal performance. They take a steady drain.

Isticks take big intermittent short drains, putting more of a stress on the battery.

So how long should an istick last? I don't think its as easy to give an answer to this as other consumer products.

But I know for my usage, I wouldn't expect more than 6 months, anything more is a bonus. Others will surely have a different opinion, and that's fine, but again, how long should an istick last??

Laptop and phone batteries can be checked how many times they have been recharged, I wonder would an equivalent be available for mods?

moonboy52

moleyv wrote: »

Laptop and phone batteries can be checked how many times they have been recharged, I wonder would an equivalent be available for mods?

Good point moleyv.

I have charged it 60 times (once every 3 or 4 days) using a USB charge.

It that an acceptable amount of charges. I don't know.

moleyv

moonboy52 wrote:

It that an acceptable amount of charges. I don't know.

Me neither, a court might have to decide.

Now maybe if it was the internal controls/board that broke (I don't know the right description of it, and could be your issue), I would expect that to outlive the battery. But I don't think many of us are able to prove what went wrong with it.

My point being, its a lot less practical to say an istick/mod died early than say a fridge or TV.

Another consideration is the 3 month warranty. Is this all the manufacturer provides, or is it provided by the vendor out of their own pocket. I don't know the answer to that either.

All I know is I've never had an istick die on me, but that's cause I've a good few mods and none of them are used exclusively. But I will be sticking to stuff with removable batteries because I think they are generally safer, and I can just put in a new battery once the old one is dead.

I am using mostly two subboxs right now, both use 18650s, they get charged every 1-1.5 days. After three months the battery's are showing a loss in performance, so I expect to change them for new ones in a month or two.

moonboy52

moleyv wrote: »

Me neither, a court might have to decide.

Good honest points moleyv.

I am vaping over a year now, so high time for a mod with separate batteries.

Would you recommend the Subbox as a decent mod?

I am looking at the Disrupter with 3 batteries as that is cheaper than the subbox as i don't need a tank that comes with it

sangsung

moleyv wrote: »

What is an istick? It is a battery. How are battery rated with regards to lifetime?

They are rated in how many times they can be recharged. What is reasonable?

So how long should an istick last? I don't think its as easy to give an answer to this as other consumer products.

Thebestshop are specific about this in their Returns T&C:

Purchasers should be aware that our electronic cigarette atomizers and batteries, although made to the highest quality, may fail or degrade over a period of time. (An electronic cigarette atomizer's natural lifespan is around 14-60 days and an electronic cigarette battery's expected lifespan is 2-3 months).

moleyv

moonboy52 wrote:

Would you recommend the Subbox as a decent mod?

I'm not vaping much longer than yourself. Others here would have more information on options. But it is a decent kit, you can save big money if you are willing to use the RBA. And if you don't want to learn to wrap coils, you can buy pre made ones for cheap and wick them yourself. Wicking is simple, I got it first go watching a video.

If you want to use premade whole coils, they are much the same price as the Atlantis ones. I use a mix, I use the RBA when trying out juice, so I can easily rewick and get rid of the flavour if necessary.

Regarding the mod itself, there seems to be a general consensus that they are solid and I don't recall anyone on here saying theirs died.

You can get them for a decent price if you shop around. Other options are the newer isticks with removable batteries. I have no experience with them, but have a TC 60w on order.

moleyv

sangsung wrote:

Thebestshop are specific about this in their Returns T&C:

Yes but consumer law can go above this, as was previously outlined. For example, people have been successful in getting some reimbursement for their fridge with two year warranty that died after three years, as it is reasonable to expect it to last more than that time.

Penny Tration

moleyv wrote: »

Yes but consumer law can go above this, as was previously outlined. For example, people have been successful in getting some reimbursement for their fridge with two year warranty that died after three years, as it is reasonable to expect it to last more than that time.

The 2 year warranty Wibbs quoted is an EU warranty which isn't used in Ireland though, because Ireland has stronger return policies.

The way the law sees it is - did the item last a reasonable amount of time? Who defines reasonable? All and none of us.

Tbh, for sixty quid, I'd treat it like a phone battery and expect a year from it (that's reasonable for a cheap phone).

However, if it's used to sub ohm and therefore is charged way more frequently than usual, seven months seems about right.

sangsung

Another iStick 50w explosion on reddit today:

http://imgur.com/90qGKXh

starling

sangsung wrote: »

Another iStick 50w explosion on reddit today:

http://imgur.com/90qGKXh

Since you couldn't be bothered to post it, here's a link to the actual thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/3od4py/istick_50_watt_raped_my_buddies_chair/

Where the owner of the chair confirms that he left the battery charging on the chair overnight and went to sleep. It took me twenty minutes to find that. Thanks a bunch. :mad:


Have we not already talked about this scaremongering?

Don't go to sleep and leave your batteries charging.
Don't put your battery on a flammable surface to charge.

Fratton Fred

moonboy52 wrote: »

Good honest points moleyv.

I am vaping over a year now, so high time for a mod with separate batteries.

Would you recommend the Subbox as a decent mod?

I am looking at the Disrupter with 3 batteries as that is cheaper than the subbox as i don't need a tank that comes with it

I took delivery of a cloupor mini today and I am mightily impressed so far.

JH_raheny

starling wrote: »

Since you couldn't be bothered to post it, here's a link to the actual thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/3od4py/istick_50_watt_raped_my_buddies_chair/

Where the owner of the chair confirms that he left the battery charging on the chair overnight and went to sleep. It took me twenty minutes to find that. Thanks a bunch. :mad:


Have we not already talked about this scaremongering?

Don't go to sleep and leave your batteries charging.
Don't put your battery on a flammable surface to charge.

That and also... how many of these have been genuine items or fake copies
I bought 2 iStick50 and no problems whatsoever and would buy another one without worry but would make sure to buy genuine and not fake

Didihno

starling wrote: »

Don't go to sleep and leave your batteries charging. Don't put your battery on a flammable surface to charge.

Indeed, but by the same token you should not have to live in terror of a device burning your house down while you are using one of its designed and built for purposes?!

8mm

Here's my take on safety:

1. No passthrough (stresses a battery too much and can overheat a battery due to charging and being used at the same time)
2. Sense an attached tank = refuse to engage charging. (juice has a life of it's own and always finds a way out)
3. Battery too old / not holding much power = refuse charging. (aged batteries can overheat easily)

And for the users:

Do not charge ANY device (not just vape gear) on a flammable surface.

Use high quality branded batteries always.