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IStick trouble

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭8mm


    sangsung wrote: »
    Latest story of an exploded istick. From reddit today:

    The guys an idiot!

    What was he thinking charging a device with a tank still attached?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 102 ✭✭sangsung


    8mm wrote: »
    The guys an idiot!

    What was he thinking charging a device with a tank still attached?

    Is it a natural instinct to remove the tank before charging? Were you born with this knowledge?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    I charge mine with the tank attached all the time...but I'm using it, not asleep
    Also it's a 30w.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,278 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    The place I bought mine from was even saying how convenient it was to charge it while using it. I hardly think removing the tank seems like an obvious thing to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭8mm


    sangsung wrote: »
    Is it a natural instinct to remove the tank before charging? Were you born with this knowledge?

    Facepalm :eek:

    Liquid containing device that's know to leak unexpectedly left connected to a mains charger unattended. Yeah sounds like a good idea alright, my bad.

    Guy even had it lying on his carpet while charging. Sad :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    8mm wrote: »
    Facepalm :eek:

    Liquid containing device that's know to leak unexpectedly left connected to a mains charger unattended. Yeah sounds like a good idea alright, my bad.

    Guy even had it lying on his carpet while charging. Sad :(

    Charging it on a carpet is more obviously dangerous, as is heading off to bed and leaving it charging.

    The tank/liquid didn't cause the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭JH_raheny


    I always only charge with tank off and the thing switched off if left unattended, it's common sense


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    I have a 20w eleaf and its about 6 months old.
    Its getting pretty hot whilst charging and not holding its charge very well(having to charge it fully every day and I dont vape much at all).
    Is it humped?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    Smidge wrote: »
    I have a 20w eleaf and its about 6 months old.
    Its getting pretty hot whilst charging and not holding its charge very well(having to charge it fully every day and I dont vape much at all).
    Is it humped?

    Well it's normal for it to feel a bit warm while charging, which is one reason why you're supposed to leave it on a suitable surface and not on the bed or the carpet like the fella in the above link. Question is, is yours "warm" or "hot;" would you say it was too hot to hold in your hand for any length of time? It's hard to say about the holding its charge part; I have to charge my 30w once every 24 hours and I wouldn't say I was a heavy user, but it's subjective...

    The main thing is, do you find that the battery is losing its charge more quickly than it used to? Assuming you haven't changed your Vaping habits or started Vaping more or less, did you always have to charge it once a day or did you use to get longer out of it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭dball


    Smidge wrote: »
    I have a 20w eleaf and its about 6 months old.
    Its getting pretty hot whilst charging and not holding its charge very well(having to charge it fully every day and I dont vape much at all).
    Is it humped?

    are you using the original charger and cable that came with it or have you started using a phone charger.

    There is a difference between them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    dball wrote: »
    are you using the original charger and cable that came with it or have you started using a phone charger.

    There is a difference between them

    My istick didn't come with a charger, just a cable, I thought that was standard?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭dball


    I think the standard phone charger plugs send out 1amp and a ecig charger send out .5 amps.
    if you are using a laptop there should be no concern when charging but if you are using an electrical socket through a phone charger it might be over heating.

    open to correction


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    dball wrote: »
    I think the standard phone charger plugs send out 1amp and a ecig charger send out .5 amps.
    if you are using a laptop there should be no concern when charging but if you are using an electrical socket through a phone charger it might be over heating.

    open to correction

    Anything 1A or under is fine to charge an istick with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭JH_raheny


    I have been using my Samsung phone chargers for my istick 50 and ijust2 with no problems, doesn't get hot or anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Soundman


    When it comes to chargers all you need to make sure of is that the voltage is correct and that the charger current is equal to or GREATER than that of which the device needs. The device will only draw what it needs.

    eg: Device is a 5v 500ma device.
    You could safely use a 5v 2A charger on it.


    Only time it gets dangerous is if the charger can't supply the correct current as this will greatly overheat the charger and the device.

    eg: Device is a 5v 500ma device. Do not use, for argument sake, a 5v 300ma charger as this will overheat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    starling wrote: »
    Well it's normal for it to feel a bit warm while charging, which is one reason why you're supposed to leave it on a suitable surface and not on the bed or the carpet like the fella in the above link. Question is, is yours "warm" or "hot;" would you say it was too hot to hold in your hand for any length of time? It's hard to say about the holding its charge part; I have to charge my 30w once every 24 hours and I wouldn't say I was a heavy user, but it's subjective...

    The main thing is, do you find that the battery is losing its charge more quickly than it used to? Assuming you haven't changed your Vaping habits or started Vaping more or less, did you always have to charge it once a day or did you use to get longer out of it?

    Its hotter than it used to be when charging that's for sure(I charge it on the kitchen worktop and never leave it charging when I'm not about).
    I used to get about 3 days from a full charge without having to recharge. Now I'm charging it daily.
    It has definitely affected my vaping as well(not getting the same "oomph" from it :))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭moleyv


    Isticks are like any rechargeable battery, they can only take so many recharges before performance tails off. Maybe that has something to do with it.

    That is the benefit of devices with removable batteries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    Smidge wrote: »
    Its hotter than it used to be when charging that's for sure(I charge it on the kitchen worktop and never leave it charging when I'm not about).
    I used to get about 3 days from a full charge without having to recharge. Now I'm charging it daily.
    It has definitely affected my vaping as well(not getting the same "oomph" from it :))
    moleyv wrote: »
    Isticks are like any rechargeable battery, they can only take so many recharges before performance tails off. Maybe that has something to do with it.

    That is the benefit of devices with removable batteries.

    Personally I don't think a performance drop like that when it's only 6 months old is normal, I'd get in touch with the vendor if I were you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭moonboy52


    My iStick 50w died today after only 7 months. Constant Power low message on screen. Pretty disappointing after such a short period of time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Soundman


    moonboy52 wrote: »
    My iStick 50w died today after only 7 months. Constant Power low message on screen. Pretty disappointing after such a short period of time

    Possible stupid suggestion, but there isn't any juice in the 510 connector on top is there? Might be causing it to act the maggot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭moonboy52


    Soundman wrote: »
    Possible stupid suggestion, but there isn't any juice in the 510 connector on top is there? Might be causing it to act the maggot.

    Thank you for the suggestion Soundman. Good idea to check. I cleaned the connector with a Q-Tip and as far as i can see there is no residual juice there.

    Constant Power low. My iStick 20w is still going strong 12 months later.

    Seemingly there is only a 3 month warranty with them so time to look for a new mod.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Soundman


    moonboy52 wrote: »
    Thank you for the suggestion Soundman. Good idea to check. I cleaned the connector with a Q-Tip and as far as i can see there is no residual juice there.

    Constant Power low. My iStick 20w is still going strong 12 months later.

    Seemingly there is only a 3 month warranty with them so time to look for a new mod.

    What tank are you using? Few people online saying the issue isn't the mod but the tank. Have you a different atomiser you can try?

    Also, what ohm are you trying to run?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭moonboy52


    Soundman wrote: »
    What tank are you using? Few people online saying the issue isn't the mod but the tank. Have you a different atomiser you can try?

    Also, what ohm are you trying to run?

    Thank you for your suggestions Soundman.

    I have tried the Atlantis tank and the Delta II (0.5ohm)

    I reckon the internal LIPO batteries have lost the ability to hold a charge.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,323 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Surely you're covered under warranty under Irish and EU law? If you bought it in a shop and have the receipt I'd be hot footing it back there if I were you.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭moonboy52


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Surely you're covered under warranty under Irish and EU law? If you bought it in a shop and have the receipt I'd be hot footing it back there if I were you.

    I contacted thebestshop Wibbs.

    I was told that the warranty is only valid for 3 months and therefore i could not exchange it.

    You reckon the law is on my side for 12 months?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,323 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    moonboy52 wrote: »
    I contacted thebestshop Wibbs.

    I was told that the warranty is only valid for 3 months and therefore i could not exchange it.

    You reckon the law is on my side for 12 months?
    Hell yes MB and TBH I'm surprised nobody else has suggested looking for a replacement for what is clearly a faulty good. Under EU law it's 2 years from time of purchase, but you've definitely got a year unless consumer law has changed radically since last I looked. The item is clearly not of merchantable quality if it's failing so soon. Is it fit for the purpose now? Nope. Is it of satisfactory quality and performance? Nope. Oh and it doesn't matter what time limit a manufacturer gives, it's the law of the land that counts. This ain't the US. You see this with some shops that say sale items aren't covered, yes they are.

    Now down the years I've had retailers of all kinds on occasion try and pull this crap with me. It was thankfully rare, but in each case I kicked up stink about it and in each case got a replacement/repaired item.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭moonboy52


    Wibbs wrote: »

    Now down the years I've had retailers of all kinds on occasion try and pull this crap with me. It was thankfully rare, but in each case I kicked up stink about it and in each case got a replacement/repaired item.

    I will contact them again Wibbs and be more stringent in asking for a replacement.

    Appreciate it man.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 102 ✭✭sangsung


    moonboy52 wrote: »
    My iStick 50w died today after only 7 months. Constant Power low message on screen. Pretty disappointing after such a short period of time

    Throw it out the window before it explodes. I am being serious. Throw it in a ditch somewhere. These have been known to randomly catch fire so if the 50w is acting a bit strange, get rid of it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,323 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    No worries MB. There's plenty of consumer law stuff a google away if they get bolshie. Oh and that stuff covers items bought online within in the EU too. AFAIR some items aren't covered, consumables and the like. IE in vaping that would be something like coils, but a box mod isn't or shouldn't be a consumable. They might pull the line that the internal battery has a finite life, but it should last a year at worst. As ever vote with your pocket. If a product or company or shop gets a rep for shoddy dealings or workmanship, take your cash elsewhere, or we all end up stuck with crappy goods.

    As I said shops and manufacturers I've had issues with have been by far the rarity, bu I would suspect with a "new" industry like vaping you'd be more likely to get dud stuff, or shops and manufacturers might rely more on consumers not understanding their basic rights.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,323 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    sangsung wrote: »
    Throw it out the window before it explodes. I am being serious. Throw it in a ditch somewhere. These have been known to randomly catch fire so if the 50w is acting a bit strange, get rid of it.
    If that's an issue - and from what I've briefly read elsewhere it can be - then use that potential danger as another lever to get a replacement device.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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