Hare coursing

Cass

Capercaillie wrote: »

One is a valued native species the other is not. There is a big distinction.

Seeing as how you quoted my post i assume you read it, but in case i've missed something please show me where in the Wildife Act that it makes a distinction between the two.

Also if i were to shoot a brown Hare out of season would i be any less guilty of an offence under the Act because it's not indigenous?

Capercaillie

Cass wrote: »

Seeing as how you quoted my post i assume you read it, but in case i've missed something please show me where in the Wildife Act that it makes a distinction between the two.

Also if i were to shoot a brown Hare out of season would i be any less guilty of an offence under the Act because it's not indigenous?

No distinction made under Wildlife act. Does that mean it doesn't matter if you are unaware/anable to distinguish the two different species. Every good hunter should be able to know what they are hunting. Is it advisable to know whether you are shooting a sika or a fallow?

Cass

Capercaillie wrote: »

No distinction made under Wildlife act.

So what i said originally is still the correct legal stance and what you said is merely you're opinion. Thanks.

Does that mean it doesn't matter if you are unaware/anable to distinguish the two different species.

The OP has admitted that s/he could not tell the difference. Some seem to be taking his/her word that they were Hares when s/he does not know. While the OP says they can tell the difference when alive these were not and at 3 am when it's dark would not help.

Every good hunter should be able to know what they are hunting. Is it advisable to know whether you are shooting a sika or a fallow?

Every good hunter should, but not all hunters are good (no point in being naive and thinking they are all good in ability or intent). However much like my point with the Hares if it's deer season then it doesn't matter (legally) if you're shooting a Sika or Fallow as long as it's in season, you have a deer legal rifle, and the appropriate license. Same with a Hare. If one were so inclined to hunt them, then as long as they are hunted/shot legally, and in season why should that person make a distinction when the law does not?

Birdnuts

Capercaillie wrote: »

One is a valued native species the other is not. There is a big distinction.

There is no evidence of an established Brown Hare population in the Republic so there really is no issue here.

Capercaillie

Cass wrote: »

You don't know that. Even the OP doesn't know if what s/he saw was a Rabbit or Hare. The post above shows that s/he doesn't know the difference between the two. So lets hold off on making assumptions and accusations without knowing the facts.

What species of Hare did you post up?

Cass wrote: »

The OP has admitted that s/he could not tell the difference. Some seem to be taking his/her word that they were Hares when s/he does not know. While the OP says they can tell the difference when alive these were not and at 3 am when it's dark would not help.

Every good hunter should, but not all hunters are good (no point in being naive and thinking they are all good in ability or intent). However much like my point with the Hares if it's deer season then it doesn't matter (legally) if you're shooting a Sika or Fallow as long as it's in season, you have a deer legal rifle, and the appropriate license. Same with a Hare. If one were so inclined to hunt them, then as long as they are hunted/shot legally, and in season why should that person make a distinction when the law does not?

If people are incapable of distinguishing between sika/fallow, how could you trust them not to be able to recognize a Red Deer?

Capercaillie

Cass wrote: »

So what i said originally is still the correct legal stance and what you said is merely you're opinion. Thanks.

Legal stance correct but factually incorrect.

Birdnuts

Capercaillie wrote: »

If people are incapable of distinguishing between sika/fallow, how could you trust them not to be able to recognize a Red Deer?

Red Deer can be hunted on the same basis as any other deer in the country(bar stags in Kerry)

http://www.gohuntingireland.com/locations/huntingd.html

Capercaillie

Birdnuts wrote: »

Red Deer can be hunted on the same basis as any other deer in the country(bar stags in Kerry)

http://www.gohuntingireland.com/locations/huntingd.html

Illegal to hunt red deer in Kerry

Birdnuts

Capercaillie wrote: »

Illegal to hunt red deer in Kerry

Re-read my post - It mentioned the fact that Red Stags in Kerry are protected.

Capercaillie

Birdnuts wrote: »

Re-read my post - It mentioned the fact that Red Stags in Kerry are protected.

The link you put up is incorrect, it states that female Irish red deer can be shot throughout the Republic of Ireland. You post says that only Irish Red Deer Stags are protected in Kerry.

Cass

Capercaillie, you have a history of distrupting threads in the hunting forum by turning them into debates on hunting wildlife and to some extent the morality of hunting itself.

I have posted that the law makes no distinction between species of Hare only that they are a Hare. You still argue your point over the legal stance as though your moral position supercedes the law.

When your position on Hares becomes untenable you turn to deer. It is clear you have an agenda here but you will not be granted the platform to disrupt the forum further.

I'm closing this thread as the OP has made assumptions without having all the facts (not a fault in itself) but people have piled on the issue based solely on hearsay and supposition.