Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

Cosmo Kramer

yop wrote: »

Only copped the semi final, if we beat London, against Galway is at 7pm on Saturday evening! Thats a change.

Yes - Sky have the rights to it, so it's a Saturday evening game. It should be on the list when Sky announce details of their coverage in the next few days.

Fr Tod Umptious

BonnieSituation wrote: »

On the basis of the last League-Championship-League cycle... I can't see past Dublin at all and can only see Tyrone being capable of toppling us.

That's where we stand on May 11th.

I'd tend not to agree with you on Tyrone, but that is a discussion for the general championship thread rather than here.

mayo.mick

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

Yes - Sky have the rights to it, so it's a Saturday evening game. It should be on the list when Sky announce details of their coverage in the next few days.

I thought Setanta had the evening match's?

Fr Tod Umptious

mayo.mick wrote: »

I thought Setanta had the evening match's?

League only, not championship

BonnieSituation

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'd tend not to agree with you on Tyrone, but that is a discussion for the general championship thread rather than here.

That it is... to the General!

PressRun

On Mayo, I would imagine it's coming from the need in the media to create a compelling narrative around the championship by building up credible opposition to Dublin's chances. Because Mayo ran them close last year and Kerry took a hammering in the league final, we therefore become the team supposedly best placed to beat them. For what it's worth, I think Mayo are able to match Dublin fitness-wise over 70 minutes. Obviously there's more to beating Dublin than that though and, tbh, I don't know where we are on other fronts. The league didn't tell us a whole lot. Hopeful as always though!

As for Tyrone - I like this Tyrone team, I was impressed by them during the league. They are capable of taking a scalp and I don't think there's a manager in the country who would relish the opportunity to have a go at the Dubs more than Mickey Harte. I still think they have a bit to prove though before they can be talked about as the only team capable of beating Dublin. They could do with winning Ulster first.

PARlance

PressRun wrote: »

That video is actually pulling at my heart strings! I don't know what I'd do if Mayo win the All-Ireland!

I remember listening to Brady live on Newstalk when he made that speech... and all off a sudden, something got caught in my eye.

Stoner

Fr Tod Umptious wrote:

Why are people suggesting that Mayo are the best placed team to beat Dublin ?

Mayo ran them close last year.
Dublin lost two All Stars since.
Mayo have a couple of forwards that added to their attack so they appear stronger since.
That's it really imo they are some facts the rest is regurgitated opinion.

naughto

PressRun wrote: »

On Mayo, I would imagine it's coming from the need in the media to create a compelling narrative around the championship by building up credible opposition to Dublin's chances. Because Mayo ran them close last year and Kerry took a hammering in the league final, we therefore become the team supposedly best placed to beat them. For what it's worth, I think Mayo are able to match Dublin fitness-wise over 70 minutes. Obviously there's more to beating Dublin than that though and, tbh, I don't know where we are on other fronts. The league didn't tell us a whole lot. Hopeful as always though!

As for Tyrone - I like this Tyrone team, I was impressed by them during the league. They are capable of taking a scalp and I don't think there's a manager in the country who would relish the opportunity to have a go at the Dubs more than Mickey Harte. I still think they have a bit to prove though before they can be talked about as the only team capable of beating Dublin. They could do with winning Ulster first.

Tyrone played div 2 football this yr they need to be with the big boys in div one just look how quickly the rossies faded this yr when the tough got going.even though they though they would win the World Cup.
I don't see Tyrone being at the business end this yr same as the rossies they are building but it I'll take another yr if no two to get them over the line.
On the mayo being the only team to push the dubs we will go close again this yr put iam thinking it I'll be the upcoming un21team that will be lifting sam in the next yr or two. Now I hope iam wrong and that we win it this yr cos I don't think I can take us loosing another semi/final to be honest

Edit it looks like we will be playing man city this yr and not the dubs

seligehgit

yop wrote: »

Only copped the semi final, if we beat London, against Galway is at 7pm on Saturday evening! Thats a change.

Nice change from the norm,beats Sunday gridlock in Salthill anyday especially if the weather is half decent.Will SKYGO have a playback of the game???Bit presumptious of moi,there's a match in London to be won first.

Quite like the Man city..sorry Dublin jersey Naughto!!

MaroonAndGreen

Major shock in the Senior Championship, Hollymount 3-3 Ballintubber 0-11

happyoutscan

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Major shock in the Senior Championship, Hollymount 3-3 Ballintubber 0-11

Wouldn't consider it a major shock at all. Hollymount-Carramore are a very decent outfit. From what I hear they were the better team throughout and should have won by more.

MaroonAndGreen

happyoutscan wrote:

Wouldn't consider it a major shock at all. Hollymount-Carramore are a very decent outfit. From what I hear they were the better team throughout and should have won by more.

I'm sorry but that is a huge shock, Ballintubber haven't lost to anyone other than Castlebar or Breaffy in about 5 years, and Holly just promoted

TCDStudent1

Stoner wrote: »

Mayo ran them close last year.
Dublin lost two All Stars since.
Mayo have a couple of forwards that added to their attack so they appear stronger since.
That's it really imo they are some facts the rest is regurgitated opinion.

Exactly + Mayo clearly had management issues (regardless of rights and wrongs of it, issues existed). I'd suspect that this years management team are better equipped than last years to beat Dublin

happyoutscan

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

I'm sorry but that is a huge shock, Ballintubber haven't lost to anyone other than Castlebar or Breaffy in about 5 years, and Holly just promoted

I may have had my tinted glasses on!

Fr Tod Umptious

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Exactly + Mayo clearly had management issues (regardless of rights and wrongs of it, issues existed). I'd suspect that this years management team are better equipped than last years to beat Dublin

I'm not sure management had as much to do with the replay loss to Dublin as some would like to make out.

Seamus O Shea got himself black carded, Keegan, I think, dropped a shot into the keepers hands that would have put them 4 up, and by all accounts Barry Moran was dead on his feet by the time of his withdrawal.

So down two important men in the middle Mayo were over run by Dublin's superior squad depth, just like happened to Kerry last month.

Bunny Colvin

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'm not sure management had as much to do with the replay loss to Dublin as some would like to make out.

Seamus O Shea got himself black carded, Keegan, I think, dropped a shot into the keepers hands that would have put them 4 up, and by all accounts Barry Moran was dead on his feet by the time of his withdrawal.

So down two important men in the middle Mayo were over run by Dublin's superior squad depth, just like happened to Kerry last month.

You could also say they persisted with AOS at 14 when we could all see it didn't work the first day. Despite Andy, what subs made impacts? In fact their lack of activity from the sideline was astonishing. Yes Dublin's depth won it for them but they actually made their luck by running their bench early. Holmes and Connelly on the other hand brought on Mark Ronaldson in the dying minutes when the game was up - 'that outta do it'...

Blackjack

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

You could also say they persisted with AOS at 14 when we could all see it didn't work the first day. Despite Andy, what subs made impacts? In fact their lack of activity from the sideline was astonishing. Yes Dublin's depth won it for them but they actually made their luck by running their bench early. Holmes and Connelly on the other hand brought on Mark Ronaldson in the dying minutes when the game was up - 'that outta do it'...

Yep. This. No plan B. Played Vaughan injured in the replay, some very curious substitutions and perhaps a lack of depth in the panel as far as midfielders were concerned - I believe Jason Gibbons was not in the panel?. Could have done with him as a sub in the replay. As for Keegan dropping a shot short, he was being well marshalled by Cian O'Sullivan while taking that shot if I remember correctly. Keegan still outscored his opposite number from play over both games, so didn't do too bad. Not sure why people keep referring to that dropped shot. as somehow being a point in that somehow lost the game for us. I remember there being more than that dropping short that day.

robbiezero

Blackjack wrote: »

Yep. This. No plan B. Played Vaughan injured in the replay, some very curious substitutions and perhaps a lack of depth in the panel as far as midfielders were concerned - I believe Jason Gibbons was not in the panel?. Could have done with him as a sub in the replay. As for Keegan dropping a shot short, he was being well marshalled by Cian O'Sullivan while taking that shot if I remember correctly. Keegan still outscored his opposite number from play over both games, so didn't do too bad. Not sure why people keep referring to that dropped shot. as somehow being a point in that somehow lost the game for us. I remember there being more than that dropping short that day.

If your 4 points up in a game with 15 minutes to go and lose by 7, it's nonsense to blame on one shot dropped short. If thats all it took for a team to collapse like that, they hardly deserve to win the game anyway.
I think it was more physical exhaustion, key players lost to black card, tiredness etc, sitting back too early to protect a lead and changing their style of play and losing momentum, but the lazy analysis always likes to point to one simple turning point.

Stoner

I think he didn't drop the shot short, he was partially blocked by a well executed last minute tackle unless I'm going mad.
B Moran was disappointing as was Parsons SOS was a huge loss.

The first game was a draw, it has to be recognised that some level of messing occurred between the two games regarding mayo. The recovery was not like Dublins, never mind the other stuff we heard went on, that won't happen again IMO.

PressRun

Yeah, a lot of emphasis seems to be placed on Leroy's missed shot. There's nothing to suggest that things would have panned out any differently if he'd gotten the shot over. There were plenty of other problems in how we played, problems that were evident in the drawn game and went unaddressed for the replay. That coupled with black card and what seemed like poor enough recovery from the drawn match made it all the more difficult. In any case, as most people probably know by now, there was, by all accounts, plenty of other stuff going on behind the scenes that makes it all the more surprising that they even made to a semi-final, let alone pushed Dublin to a replay.

That's all in the past now anyway and I'm looking forward to the coming summer. The Mayo News mentioned a few players carrying some knocks, which will hopefully be cleared up before the London match. I'm keen to get another look at Evan Regan too.

Fr Tod Umptious

Stoner wrote: »

As just posted earlier he didn't drop a shot short, he was partially blocked by a very well executed last minute tackle unless I'm going mad.
B Moran was disappointing as was Parsons SOS was a huge loss.

The first game was a draw, it has to be recognised that some level of messing occurred between the two games regarding mayo. The recovery was not like Dublins, never mind the other stuff we heard went on, that won't happen again IMO.

I only saw it once and that was live on the day from a good bit back so I'll not argue with you that it was blocked/deflected.

But losing Moran and O Shea were huge blows.

To beat Dublin a team has to be at their absolute physical peek, to be able to deal with the fresh players that Dublin can bring on, if you can weather that storm you may just be able to win it.

Cosmo Kramer

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I only saw it once and that was live on the day from a good bit back so I'll not argue with you that it was blocked/deflected.

But losing Moran and O Shea were huge blows.

To beat Dublin a team has to be at their absolute physical peek, to be able to deal with the fresh players that Dublin can bring on, if you can weather that storm you may just be able to win it.

Didn't John Casey confirm that Parsons played the second game with an injury (possibly a broken finger) as well, which limited his impact? We were ravaged with problems by the last 20 minutes of the replay and it showed. If a team is to take Dublin out this year it'll need to be the first day I think. The short turnaround coupled with Dublin's stronger panel depth, access to recovery facilities and geographical advantage (all based in the same city so easier to meet up more often at short notice for analysis and strategy sessions) makes them practically unbeatable in replays I think.

seligehgit

Interesting follow up article in the Mayo News ranking the top 40 clubs in the county.The Mitchels reign supreme in spite of their All Ireland heartbreak.

http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/27812-castlebar-mitchels-move-on-up

seligehgit

The Mayo ladies are Connaught champions...

Mayo 4-7 Galway 3-9.

statto25

seligehgit wrote: »

The Mayo ladies are Connaught champions...

Mayo 4-7 Galway 3-9.

That was the U16s. Fair play to them.

seligehgit

statto25 wrote: »

That was the U16s. Fair play to them.

Thanks statto25,yes it's great news

Stoner

Cosmo Kramer wrote:

Didn't John Casey confirm that Parsons played the second game with an injury (possibly a broken finger)

Yes I heard that, would be serious enough for him too, a lot of his strengths involve striking the ball when turning it over following diagonal runs into the tackle, he's a bit of a GAA David Batty IMO, he's very effective when in his game, strapping the fingers together to help fielding high balls wouldn't really be enough as it's not where he adds value IMO.

cocoman

London County Board have confirmed that ALL tickets for the Mayo game have now been sold.

I hope that there aren't too many here without a ticket but I suspect that there may be a few

Oldtree

Mayo-London ticket up for grabs on the weekly quiz Eir GAA website. :D
Just register and answer 5 questions correctly to be in with a chance. Get 5 goes to get 3 right.

They also have predictions for the championship section with AI tickets as a prize, last year anyways.

http://gaa.eir.ie/