Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

martyos121

yop wrote: »

no they will DEFINITELY have the Senior and Minor games on Sunday then at the same time. This is the GAA. Logic doesn't enter their stratosphere.
Home game now, so let Prenty Council find another field for the other 2. Or replay the handpassing final on Sunday.

Send them up to Sligo for it. It's the only logical thing to do when they want to send Connacht final teams on the hardest journey possible.

irishgeo

martyos121 wrote: »

Send them up to Sligo for it. It's the only logical thing to do when they want to send Connacht final teams on the hardest journey possible.

Sligo isn't big enough for a connacht final.

martyos121

irishgeo wrote: »

Sligo isn't big enough for a connacht final.

Exactly.

Fr Tod Umptious

Kildare are a team that lost twice last year by 20+ points to teams that Mayo have gone toe to toe with.

Admittedly they have a new manager, one that worked with Mayo before, but with home advantage also I'd still expect a fully functioning Mayo to win without too much fuss.

Fowler87

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Kildare are a team that lost twice last year by 20+ points to teams that Mayo have gone toe to toe with.

Admittedly they have a new manager, one that worked with Mayo before, but with home advantage also I'd still expect a fully functioning Mayo to win without too much fuss.

Agreed we couldn't have got a better draw this time around

seligehgit

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Kildare are a team that lost twice last year by 20+ points to teams that Mayo have gone toe to toe with.

Admittedly they have a new manager, one that worked with Mayo before, but with home advantage also I'd still expect a fully functioning Mayo to win without too much fuss.

They are quite a bit off full functioning atm,hoping to see an improved performance with a win to boot.The big elephant in the room is whither this Mayo team can reach previous performance levels...

PARlance

seligehgit wrote: »

They are quite a bit off full functioning atm,hoping to see an improved performance with a win to boot.The big elephant in the room is whither this Mayo team can reach previous performance levels...

I'm still feeling fairly deflated from Saturday. Not even a decent good second half battle gives me much hope. We should handle Kildare but past that, the maximum I can see is getting close to performances of years gone by, which won't be good enough.

I just can't see any vision for the team. No real purpose. Not much has changed from last year bar deciding that McLoughlin is a sweeper and Higgins, a forward.
There's a great bunch of lads there but I've the fear and I didn't touch a drop all weekend.

Fr Tod Umptious

PARlance wrote: »

I'm still feeling fairly deflated from Saturday. Not even a decent good second half battle gives me much hope. We should handle Kildare but past that, the maximum I can see is getting close to performances of years gone by, which won't be good enough.

I just can't see any vision for the team. No real purpose. Not much has changed from last year bar deciding that McLoughlin is a sweeper and Higgins, a forward.
There's a great bunch of lads there but I've the fear and I didn't touch a drop all weekend.

One thing I forgot to mention after the game.

What is it with them continuing to give teams clear cut goal chances late it games that they are leading in.

How often has it happened in the last few years, and again on Saturday.

This team are what they are, a team that struggled in the league, lost early in the championship and are now navigating the back door.

The best they we can hope for is a return to recent form, but nothing more I don't think.
This is not a team keeping their powder dry for August, or not showing their hand till Croke Park etc.

They have no powder left to keep dry, they have no hand to show.

spurscormac

I wonder will we actually get a fixture announced today?
There'll be some stand-off all morning between Castlebar/Connacht Council & Croke Park as to who gets first call on the venue.
I suspect they'll be back to Salthill next weekend to play the replay.

Fr Tod Umptious

spurscormac wrote: »

I wonder will we actually get a fixture announced today?
There'll be some stand-off all morning between Castlebar/Connacht Council & Croke Park as to who gets first call on the venue.
I suspect they'll be back to Salthill next weekend to play the replay.

Typical
Why announce a venue if its dependent on something else, i.e the qualifier draw.

A double header would work if you ask me.

km79

spurscormac wrote: »

I wonder will we actually get a fixture announced today?
There'll be some stand-off all morning between Castlebar/Connacht Council & Croke Park as to who gets first call on the venue.
I suspect they'll be back to Salthill next weekend to play the replay.

And so they should
This is a home game for mayo. Double header with 20k from galway and ros is no longer a home game
Final was in Galway so replay should be in Roscommon. But they have no pitch so tough tittie back to galway with them. Mayo should not be discomoded to suit them. They spent money on a bus when a pitch was needed !

martyos121

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Typical
Why announce a venue if its dependent on something else, i.e the qualifier draw.

A double header would work if you ask me.

I'd like to think a double header would work but it's us that'll take the lion's share of tickets even for the lesser game that it is on paper. If they're happy enough with that, fine, we'll get our money's worth that day then, but I'm not sure they will be.

Having said that, nothing could possibly surprise me with any of those committees and councils anymore.

spurscormac

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Typical
Why announce a venue if its dependent on something else, i.e the qualifier draw.

A double header would work if you ask me.

Don't think they can do a double header, one game is organised by Connacht Council, the other by Croke Park.
How will they reserve the unreserved seating?
How do they justify charging Mayo fans extra to go to a game they don't want to see?
How would they split the funds ?


They could do two separate fixtures, 3:30 & 7pm, clear the grounds, but that would be messy.

spurscormac

My betting would be on one of the following:-

Both games Saturday - then its Mayo in Castlebar, replay in Salthill.
Both games in Castlebar - but one Saturday, one Sunday.

I can actually see us playing Sunday, seeing as they've already called the replay for Saturday.

yop

spurscormac wrote: »

Don't think they can do a double header, one game is organised by Connacht Council, the other by Croke Park.
How will they reserve the unreserved seating?
How do they justify charging Mayo fans extra to go to a game they don't want to see?
How would they split the funds ?


They could do two separate fixtures, 3:30 & 7pm, clear the grounds, but that would be messy.

Well everyone can see that logic as you have outlined above. But remember this is Prenty, the lad who put the Connacht final in Hyde when there was no seating for all the season ticket holders, the farcical mess in the Mayo V Galway game with the unreserved "oh its reserved" seating.
The same chap who said Mayo fans always have something to whinge about when Limerick was used as semi final replay spot.
The only thing they see is the euros.

So what ever we see as logical or problematic will be ignored. They will save on so much by having one venue and charge top dollar.

NabyLadistheman

Load of club games announced for Sunday so game must be looking like a Saturday fixture

martyos121

Losing to Galway was awful for our AI run it goes without saying, but jaysus it could be the best thing to happen to Castlebar pub owners in a decade at this rate! :pac:

Hoping for our game and no other at MacHale Park on Saturday though, not even just for our sake, but for Galway and the Rossies, they've done well and deserve their own day tbf. If we were in a Connacht final outnumbered by a team not involved in it, we'd feel quite hard done by.

km79

spurscormac wrote: »

My betting would be on one of the following:-

Both games Saturday - then its Mayo in Castlebar, replay in Salthill.
Both games in Castlebar - but one Saturday, one Sunday.

I can actually see us playing Sunday, seeing as they've already called the replay for Saturday.

Be VERY unfair on Kildare as their minors play on Croker on Sunday
For me there is no issue
Replay in Galway. Roscommon have no pitch. Mayos is not available to them now. Sligo and Carrick too small. Tough on them

Also it's worth bearing in mind sky have a qualifier marked down for 7pm on Saturday . No way the conn final will be played before our game so assuming mayo are on TV .......

irishgeo

km79 wrote: »

Be VERY unfair on Kildare as their minors play on Croker on Sunday
For me there is no issue
Replay in Galway. Roscommon have no pitch. Mayos is not available to them now. Sligo and Carrick too small. Tough on them

Also it's worth bearing in mind sky have a qualifier marked down for 7pm on Saturday . No way the conn final will be played before our game so assuming mayo are on TV .......

Longford and Cork could be on TV.

km79

km79 wrote: »

Be VERY unfair on Kildare as their minors play on Croker on Sunday
For me there is no issue
Replay in Galway. Roscommon have no pitch. Mayos is not available to them now. Sligo and Carrick too small. Tough on them

Also it's worth bearing in mind sky have a qualifier marked down for 7pm on Saturday . No way the conn final will be played before our game so assuming mayo are on TV .......

Sunday in Castlebar maybe? Problem there though it leaves a 6 day turnaround (yet again) for the losers as they are due to play on Sat the 23rd July. The GAA will have to take a look again at fixtures I feel as even the A & B system is not properly dealing with the situation of replays.

DDC1990

The Connacht final will be on Saturday for sure. They won't have it clash with the other two provincial finals.

I'd imagine a double header in McHale Park is on the cards. Kildare will bring less support than Fermanagh so i'd expect around 10k to 12k from Mayo/Kildare and maybe 17k for the Replay.

29k fits comfortably in McHale park. The big stand accomodates all Season Ticket holders.

km79

DDC1990 wrote: »

The Connacht final will be on Saturday for sure. They won't have it clash with the other two provincial finals.

I'd imagine a double header in McHale Park is on the cards. Kildare will bring less support than Fermanagh so i'd expect around 10k to 12k from Mayo/Kildare and maybe 17k for the Replay.

29k fits comfortably in McHale park. The big stand accomodates all Season Ticket holders.

What happens if sky want their 7pm game to be the mayo one ?
Sky call the shots now as the delay in fixing last game showed

Fr Tod Umptious

Deleted User wrote: »

Sunday in Castlebar maybe? Problem there though it leaves a 6 day turnaround (yet again) for the losers as they are due to play on Sat the 23rd July. The GAA will have to take a look again at fixtures I feel as even the A & B system is not properly dealing with the situation of replays.

Weekend of 23rd is a week off for the B side of the draw.

Rawhead

Connacht council run the final, tickets are €30 for the stand. GAA runs qualifiers and no way they'll be charging €30 for a qualifier game, there'll be no double header. It'd be like an away game anyway if it was a double header as you'd have the herron chokers and the sheep stealers cheering on the flour bags.
Funny how a fella falling over in a game creates a bigger **** storm than a man trying to gouge an opponents eyes out in an All Ireland final.

DDC1990

km79 wrote:

What happens if sky want their 7pm game to be the mayo one ? Sky call the shots now as the delay in fixing last game showed

Then pack the car up! Ye could be off to play Kildare in Portlaoise or Tullamore,while the Rossies and Galway handpass around McHale Park! :O

Fr Tod Umptious

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Weekend of 23rd is a week off for the B side of the draw.

The GAA fixtures list has the Connacht final loser v a round 3A winner down for the 23rd.

statto25

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The GAA fixtures list has the Connacht final loser v a round 3A winner down for the 23rd.

Yes and that's the A side of the draw

Oldtree

DDC1990 wrote: »

Then pack the car up! Ye could be off to play Kildare in Portlaoise or Tullamore,while the Rossies and Galway handpass around McHale Park! :O

They might send us to Hyde Park for our sins :eek:

statto25

statto25 wrote: »

Yes and that's the A side of the draw

It can be very confusing tbh. Once a county reaches its provincial final is it in effect not in the A or B system anymore?

Fr Tod Umptious

Deleted User wrote: »

The GAA fixtures list has the Connacht final loser v a round 3A winner down for the 23rd.

Your right, I did not read your post right, you were refering to Galway/Roscommon losers, I thought it was Mayo/Kildare winners.

Yes 6 day turn around for Galway or Roscommon but that's their own fault for not winning on the first day.

There is only so much you can do to accommodate replays.