Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

km79

DDC1990 wrote: »

The famous photo you are referring to was taken this year, in the league. Ball goes over the bar, so the referee cannot give a penalty. Can't see why you are complaining.

Second of all Cafferky fouled James O'Donaghue, no matter how many times you say it didn't happen. You can't slide through the back of a player like that.

To finish, you are still going on about a game that happened 2 years ago, and wondering why people would have the notion that Mayo fans are sore losers. Think about that. In those two years ye have had two different management teams, won an u21 All Ireland, came within a whisker of beating Dublin and are now working your way through the qualifiers. The game moves on.

Your sense of what happened during that Semi Final is so warped now that you are putting incidents from other games into that game to convince yourself that Kerry robbed ye of an All Ireland.

Time to get over it.

(I know Kerry people who still go on about the 2011 final and would offer them the same advice).

I think it might have been the drink last night that warped my sense
I take your point though
Still it's better to be a poor winner today than a sore loser

eddie73

Oshea dived 100% to con the ref. Was he right to do it? I am surprised there is even a debate about this.

The owness is on the ref to sort out the behaviour of the players and the rules need to be clear about offences. At the moment, there is no hard penalty for simulating a dive - Therefore players will dive when it suits them.

The difficulty that Oshea now faces is that many refs will give him nothing for the rest of the year.

Bunny Colvin

eddie73 wrote: »

Oshea dived 100% to con the ref. Was he right to do it? I am surprised there is even a debate about this.

The owness is on the ref to sort out the behaviour of the players and the rules need to be clear about offences. At the moment, there is no hard penalty for simulating a dive - Therefore players will dive when it suits them.

The difficulty that Oshea now faces is that many refs will give him nothing for the rest of the year.

Well he gets sweet F all anyway so..

ArielAtom

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Who exactly is 'condoning' the dive?

Look back through thread.

Fr Tod Umptious

eddie73 wrote: »

Oshea dived 100% to con the ref. Was he right to do it? I am surprised there is even a debate about this.

The owness is on the ref to sort out the behaviour of the players and the rules need to be clear about offences. At the moment, there is no hard penalty for simulating a dive - Therefore players will dive when it suits them.

The difficulty that Oshea now faces is that many refs will give him nothing for the rest of the year.

Is there a role of the umpires here, I'm sure there should be.

Can they call a dive ?

DDC1990

km79 wrote:

Still it's better to be a poor winner today than a sore loser

Absolutely. The record books don't put an astrix beside a win with a lucky goal or a bad refereeing descision.

A win is a win.

Coillte_Bhoy

ArielAtom wrote: »

Look back through thread.

I have done and nobody is condoning it.

harpsman

OShea a disgrace to the game. You would never see a Donegal man do that.

The amount of treatment big men like OShea Murphy and Donaghy get without getting frees is a bit of a joke so not gonna begrudge them the odd handy one even if last nights was a particularly egregious dive.

On this subject saw a great interview with Lee Keegan last year where he said all the top teams practice "the dark arts" and he wasnt going to either apologise or complain about it. Which I thought was a refreshingly honest approach.

Stoner

https://youtu.be/iPa9bgxRyXE

Saw this clip on 42.
2004 Mayo v Fermanagh.
The same Alan Dillon played then too. Mayo had some nice forwards. Looked like a very good atmosphere in a far from packed CP too.

gigantic09

harpsman wrote: »

OShea a disgrace to the game. You would never see a Donegal man do that.

No you never would.

https://youtu.be/Q1yGDJnE1Hs

Galway 1-9 Mayo 0-6 in the Connacht minor football final.

ProudDUB

eddie73 wrote: »

Oshea dived 100% to con the ref. Was he right to do it? I am surprised there is even a debate about this.

The owness is on the ref to sort out the behaviour of the players and the rules need to be clear about offences. At the moment, there is no hard penalty for simulating a dive - Therefore players will dive when it suits them.

The difficulty that Oshea now faces is that many refs will give him nothing for the rest of the year.

Bingo. Could wind up being a very, very expensive 3 pts for Mayo.

km79

Looking forward to the next round
Is Rochford going to continue with Higgins in the forward line ?
I hope not but fear he will

Fr Tod Umptious

ProudDUB wrote: »

Bingo. Could wind up being a very, very expensive 3 pts for Mayo.

If the (obviously unsaid) message coming out from the refs after this is "don't cheat or we will make it difficult for you from now on" then the system is well and truly broken.

Thell have to look at diving in the next congress.

charlie14

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

If the (obviously unsaid) message coming out from the refs after this is "don't cheat or we will make it difficult for you from now on" then the system is well and truly broken.

I don`t know if it would quite go that far, but when it looks as if you have made a mug of one ref, especially when seen on national TV, then probably only natural that others will be much more hesitant in awarding frees to that player

Rawhead

ProudDUB wrote: »

Bingo. Could wind up being a very, very expensive 3 pts for Mayo.

Indeed, if this outrage continues he'll be needing the services of Diarmuid Connelly's leagal team soon.

ProudDUB

Rawhead wrote: »

Indeed, if this outrage continues he'll be needing the services of Diarmuid Connelly's leagal team soon.

Best of luck getting Tony Hanahoe to help out a non Vincents client, never mind a non Dubs one.

MayoAreMagic

eddie73 wrote: »

The difficulty that Oshea now faces is that many refs will give him nothing for the rest of the year.

Never seemed to cause Philly McMahon, Aidan O'Mahoney or Sean Cavanagh any trouble afterwards, so I dont see why it would for O'Shea.

It is striking how much people have latched onto this. They won by 5 points for a start, so the goal wasnt the difference in the game. Fermanagh's goal looked to involve a push in the back and O'Connor should have had a penalty 10 minutes before the dive. Factor in the Fermanagh lad taking a tumble in front of the posts when seamus o'shea was tackling him fairly, and really and truely, there shouldnt be half the fallout from this.

I think people just dont like o'shea. It has a touch of the c ronaldos about it, he just seems to rub people up the wrong way.

TommyDe

What about Quigleys push on Boyle for fermanaghs goal? At a crucial time too.

naughto

Connacht GAA Championship Senior Final replay Sat 16th July in MacHale Park time to be confirmed #gaa

seligehgit

naughto wrote: »

Connacht GAA Championship Senior Final replay Sat 16th July in MacHale Park time to be confirmed #gaa

Yes indeed,it will be interesting to see what happens if we get a home draw in the qualifiers...presumably it would have been fixed for next Saturday.

Kristopherus

seligehgit wrote: »

Yes indeed,it will be interesting to see what happens if we get a home draw in the qualifiers...presumably it would have been fixed for next Saturday.

Possibility of a big double-header.:)

PressRun

Careful what you wish for with a double header. A bunch of Galway and Roscommon people present and probably shouting against Mayo.

yop

PressRun wrote: »

Careful what you wish for with a double header. A bunch of Galway and Roscommon people present and probably shouting against Mayo.

No probably about it.
Can't see how they can manage it, hopefully our game first, then we can leave and watch paint dry instead.

statto25

yop wrote: »

No probably about it.
Can't see how they can manage it, hopefully our game first, then we can leave and watch paint dry instead.

The Mayo game will be the curtain raiser no doubt about that. Out then to get the high stools before the other game finishes

yop

statto25 wrote: »

The Mayo game will be the curtain raiser no doubt about that. Out then to get the high stools before the other game finishes starts

padd b1975

Would it have killed those moochers over the road to factor in the possibility of a Connacht Final replay into their redevelopment plans??

Kristopherus

PressRun wrote: »

Careful what you wish for with a double header. A bunch of Galway and Roscommon people present and probably shouting against Mayo.

Ah, if its Mayo v Cork we may get a few defectors:D.

PressRun

I don't see the sense in announcing the venue for the Connacht final before the draw for the qualifiers is made anyway.

Fr Tod Umptious

Kristopherus wrote: »

Ah, if its Mayo v Cork we may get a few defectors:D.

If its Mayo v Cork then capacity will not be a problem, unless the Cork fan decides to bring his friend.