When do you think somebody is homophobic?

freshpopcorn

I normally find it's when people say I've nothing against the gayS, some of my best friends made that choice. Followed by a but.

ToddyDoody

When they're in fact gay themselves

Matt_Trakker

When they don't give a reach-around.

Cee-Jay-Cee

When you wash your hands after shaking hands with a gay person.

jaymcg91

Your OP is the biggest signal for racism / homophobia etc.

My best friend is (enter minority) BUT...

It's hysterical how people think they're hiding their true feelings but you can see it instantly .

efb

When they write columns on a weekly basis on how gays should be denied equal rights

umop apisdn

Panti Bliss ( A soon to be future President of Ireland I hope) was clear : Everyone is a little bit homophobic and it needs to be stopped.

Pink Lemons

umop apisdn wrote: »

Panti Bliss was clear. Everyone is a little bit homophobic and it needs to be stopped.

Well that's just not true is it..

umop apisdn

Pink Lemons wrote: »

Well that's just not true is it..

Are you saying Panti Bliss is lying ? . . . actually you are saying he is lying.

Well that makes your opinion pretty worthless then.

rubadub

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I normally find it's when people say I've nothing against the gayS, some of my best friends made that choice.

I would have to see your definition for homophobic, and heterophobic for that matter.

I find most people are sensibly prejudiced, its not necessarily a bad thing.

umop apisdn wrote: »

actually you are saying he is lying.

He said it is not true. Lying implies the person is knowingly deceiving people, I would not consider creationists to be liars, just stupid cunts, not knowingly lying though.

What did panti bliss say exactly, googling "Everyone is a little bit homophobic and it needs to be stopped" throws up no google hits so it seems you may have got the quote wrong. Unless it was not reported anywhere. I would also like to see his definition of homophobic if available, I think it odd that he considers himself and everybody else homophobic.

frostyjacks

I think people are entitled to their own opinion, and it should be respected.

Cienciano

umop apisdn wrote: »

Panti Bliss ( A soon to be future President of Ireland I hope) was clear : Everyone is a little bit homophobic and it needs to be stopped.

So Panti Bliss is homophobic and needs to be stopped?

Fleawuss

Boards needs to have a special place for those traumatized by losing the SSM referendum. They could gather there and imagine all the alternative outcomes and all the things that Irish people need to be made think about. I wonder is Craggy Island available for them.

PowerToWait

rubadub wrote: »

He said it is not true. Lying implies the person is knowingly deceiving people, I would not c.

This upslde down guy is a try hard troll.

darkpagandeath

I have nothing against Asylum seekers... But, Most are economic Migrants.

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diomed

When they have a different opinion on anything.

RDM_83 again

umop apisdn wrote: »

Panti Bliss ( A soon to be future President of Ireland I hope) was clear : Everyone is a little bit homophobic and it needs to be stopped.

I'm confused? You only want Panti to be president, does that mean when Rory O'Neil is out of character there wouldn't be a president

Also, try harder your no Aongus Von Bismark talking about drugs :P

The Randy Riverbeast

When they actively attempt to reduce or prevent the rights of a gay person because they are gay.

darkpagandeath

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

When they actively attempt to reduce or prevent the rights of a gay person because they are gay.

Like not selling cakes or err printing something ?

Arsemageddon

umop apisdn wrote: »

Panti Bliss ( A soon to be future President of Ireland I hope) was clear : Everyone is a little bit homophobic and it needs to be stopped.

Good Jaysus!

You're like a feckin' Viz charecter!

keeponhurling

umop apisdn wrote: »

Are you saying Panti Bliss is lying ? . . . actually you are saying he is lying.

Well that makes your opinion pretty worthless then.

Indeed. There shall be no questioning of Panti's beliefs on AH - that is the one great taboo.

Akrasia

efb wrote: »

When they write columns on a weekly basis on how gays should be denied equal rights

in fairness to them, they'll be celebrating their next wedding anniversary at Burger King instead of Ashford Castle because their marriage has been devalued.

The Randy Riverbeast

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Like not selling cakes or err printing something ?

Well if they offer a service but wont provide it to someone because they are gay then yes.

I'm also including the roundabout ways like claiming you have no gay couple rooms so its not discrimination. Or saying marriage is about having children but only if you are gay, otherwise childless marriage is fine.

darkpagandeath

Akrasia wrote: »

in fairness to them, they'll be celebrating their next wedding anniversary at Burger King instead of Ashford Castle because their marriage has been devalued.

And the wife leaving cos she can get a divorce ...

Akrasia

Fleawuss wrote: »

Boards needs to have a special place for those traumatized by losing the SSM referendum. They could gather there and imagine all the alternative outcomes and all the things that Irish people need to be made think about. I wonder is Craggy Island available for them.

Most of it is, but the West side got blown off in that big storm a few years ago

johnnyskeleton

umop apisdn wrote: »

Panti Bliss ( A soon to be future President of Ireland I hope) was clear : Everyone is a little bit homophobic and it needs to be stopped.

Why can't Panti just accept people as they are!

Akrasia

darkpagandeath wrote: »

And the wife leaving cos she can get a divorce ...

And because she ran off with that barmaid...

biko

When they say "gayness is ruining the fabric of society or the family" blah blah - really what they want is to impose their own version of reality onto others.

On a side note - why do people call it phobic? I'd hardly think homophobes are actually afraid of catching the gayness, they just don't agree with it.

umop apisdn

biko wrote: »

When they say "gayness is ruining the fabric of society or the family" blah blah - really what they want is to impose their own version of reality onto others.

On a side note - why do people call it phobic? I'd hardly think homophobes are actually afraid of catching the gayness, they just don't agree with it.

A phobia is an irrational fear or hatred of something.
i.e. such people are irrational by definition. Juding by the tone of some of the posts here already, there's a few closet homophobes left in Ireland to be cleaned up yet, and they are still butthurt about the Yes victory.

keeponhurling

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Why can't Panti just accept people as they are!

What we do in our own homes should be our own choice, we can't help the way we feel.

darkpagandeath

umop apisdn wrote: »

A phobia is an irrational fear or hatred of something.
i.e. such people are irrational by definition. Juding by the tone of some of the posts here already, there's a few closet homophobes left in Ireland to be cleaned up yet, and they are still butthurt about the Yes victory.

Nope no hatred it's Irrational fear of something. People tag that hatred thing on as if it's fact.

Jimoslimos

umop apisdn wrote: »

A phobia is an irrational fear or hatred of something.
i.e. such people are irrational by definition. Juding by the tone of some of the posts here already, there's a few closet homophobes left in Ireland to be cleaned up yet, and they are still butthurt about the Yes victory.

Why are you so obsessed about homophobes? Are you homophobic yourself?:pac:

MadDog76

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I normally find it's when people say I've nothing against the gayS, some of my best friends made that choice. Followed by a but.

I think in today's society it's unfortunately necessary to have to say "I'm not racist/sexist" etc. before being allowed to offer a valid opinion on an individual and/or group of people.

For example, I could say "that family two doors down are a filthy lot, personal hygiene is not their priority!" ......... now if that family happen to be black then there's (sometimes) pressure to preface the statement with "I'm not racist but ........"

The point being, saying "I'm not sexist/racist but .........." does not automatically make you sexist/racist.

How do you know if someone is homophobic? They'll usually make it quite clear with time depending on the topic of conversation.

darkpagandeath

MadDog76 wrote: »

I think in today's society it's unfortunately necessary to have to say "I'm not racist/sexist" etc. before being allowed to offer a valid opinion on an individual and/or group of people.

For example, I could say "that family two doors down are a filthy lot, personal hygiene is not their priority!" ......... now if that family happen to be black then there's (sometimes) pressure to preface the statement with "I'm not racist but ........"

The point being, saying "I'm not sexist/racist but .........." does not automatically make you sexist/racist.

How do you know if someone is homophobic? They'll usually make it quite clear with time depending on the topic of conversation.

Nail on the head there, We can thank our PC/SJW's overloards for that.

DeadHand

umop apisdn wrote: »

Panti Bliss ( A soon to be future President of Ireland I hope) was clear : Everyone is a little bit homophobic and it needs to be stopped.

Oh, please no.

To think that a nation that produced Daniel O'Connell, Micheal Davitt and Micheal Collins could be globally represented by an overrated, whinging man in a dress with ridiculous fake boobs and make up that looks as if it were applied by shotgun.

The fawning over this talentless wretch has become cringeworthy at this stage.

umop apisdn

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Why are you so obsessed about homophobes? Are you homophobic yourself?:pac:

Are you still butt hurt from the yes vote ? I hear there's going to be a special commune on craggy Island for butt hurt no voters, perhaps you could go there.

The Randy Riverbeast

MadDog76 wrote: »

I think in today's society it's unfortunately necessary to have to say "I'm not racist/sexist" etc. before being allowed to offer a valid opinion on an individual and/or group of people.

For example, I could say "that family two doors down are a filthy lot, personal hygiene is not their priority!" ......... now if that family happen to be black then there's (sometimes) pressure to preface the statement with "I'm not racist but ........"

The point being, saying "I'm not sexist/racist but .........." does not automatically make you sexist/racist.

How do you know if someone is homophobic? They'll usually make it quite clear with time depending on the topic of conversation.

I would think the opposite. If you just told me that the family was a filthy lot I would just think that they were a filthy lot. Race wouldnt come into it unless the person saying it had a habit of claiming that black people were filthy often.

If you start with "'I'm not racists but.." my notice would be brought to their race and that you felt it was important to the matter of them being filthy.

darkpagandeath

umop apisdn wrote: »

Are you still butt hurt from the yes vote ? I hear there's going to be a special commune on craggy Island for butt hurt no voters, perhaps you could go there.

Nah I'm still scared for life from the Yes Zealots hounding one around the street if you do not immediately say "I'm voting yes" or them assuming "That's My business " to mean you are a homophobe and called out on ones views. You know them Yes lot being psychic and all that.

Jimoslimos

umop apisdn wrote: »

Are you still butt hurt from the yes vote ? I hear there's going to be a special commune on craggy Island for butt hurt no voters, perhaps you could go there.

Sure why would I be butt-hurt? I live in a country which already had legislated for SSM before Ireland, and when I say legislated I mean politicians got their fingers out instead of relying on a popularity contest referendum to justify it.

darkpagandeath

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

I would think the opposite. If you just told me that the family was a filthy lot I would just think that they were a filthy lot. Race wouldnt come into it unless the person saying it had a habit of claiming that black people were filthy often.

If you start with "'I'm not racists but.." my notice would be brought to their race and that you felt it was important to the matter of them being filthy.

Nope My experience would be the other way around that you are calling them Dirty because they are Black. You would never have a problem if it was a white couple you were talking about no need to explain the whole I'm not Racist part.

umop apisdn

DeadHand wrote: »

Oh, please no.

To think that a nation that produced Daniel O'Connell, Micheal Davitt and Micheal Collins could be globally represented by an overrated, whinging man in a dress with ridiculous fake boobs and make up that looks as if it were applied by shotgun.

The fawning over this talentless wretch has become cringeworthy at this stage.

It's the least the citizens of Ireland can do to honor him. He gained world wide attention for the cause of gay rights in Ireland. He's done this country a great service, and the innocent people who were shackled in this country for years. Future generations are in his debt.

humanji

umop apisdn wrote: »

Are you still butt hurt from the yes vote ? I hear there's going to be a special commune on craggy Island for butt hurt no voters, perhaps you could go there.

MOD: This is going to be your only warning. Stop with the "I'm the uber-pro-gay-rights campaigner" shtick. It's fooling no one and it's going to get you banned if you keep it up as a pretense to insult people. If you can't help insulting people, then just don't post.

Cienciano

umop apisdn wrote: »

Are you still butt hurt from the yes vote ? I hear there's going to be a special commune on craggy Island for butt hurt no voters, perhaps you could go there.

Judging from your posts, I think you're the only one butt hurt

umop apisdn

Cienciano wrote: »

Judging from your posts, I think you're the only one butt hurt

Only at weekends, you offering ?

How Soon Is Now

With all the lgbt related issues posted in AH s lately wouldnt it be great if there was a separate section for people to talk about these things?

Oh wait.......

darkpagandeath

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

With all the lgbt related issues posted in AH s lately wouldnt it be great if there was a separate section for people to talk about these things?

Oh wait.......

Sure we are all open and tolerant now, Maybe we should start posting random stuff in that forum ?

How Soon Is Now

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Sure we are all open and tolerant now, Maybe we should start posting random stuff in that forum ?

:pac: Good idea!!

drunkmonkey

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Sure we are all open and tolerant now, Maybe we should start posting random stuff in that forum ?

We should start by calling them out for abanding the T in LBGT since they got their equality, seems the auld Gays are now distancing themselves as it's all a bit non pc for them now.

The Randy Riverbeast

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Nope My experience would be the other way around that you are calling them Dirty because they are Black. You would never have a problem if it was a white couple you were talking about no need to explain the whole I'm not Racist part.

Maybe its just me, I dont tend to think much about another person's race or why it would have anything to do with their cleanliness.

Arytonblue

I think we should just have all the Homosexuals and Homophobes battle it out on live TV on some remote island with a 'kill or be killed' rule, would make for some fantastic entertainment. Breda O'Brien and David Quinn in one corner cannonballing flaming copies of the Irish Catholic with a ballista, with Panti and Colm O'Gorman in the other corner flinging razor sharp Yes badges back, Youth Defence leading a cavalry charge against the alliance of Uni societies and David Norris' squadron of minions. Would be glorious, and just picture the fabulous outfits both sides could don. I say we start a kickstarter to have this happen.

biko

umop apisdn wrote: »

A phobia is an irrational fear or hatred of something.
i.e. such people are irrational by definition.

Phobia is not hatred of something.
Phobia only means fear* - you can then build upon that to join in hatred to dilute the expression and inflate it to fit your view.

Phobia is a medical expression, people keep using medical expression to inflate the meaning over their own diluted issues.
Depression, phobia, retarded. One day people will have killed off the original meaning of every word.



*Actually a lot of phobias are not irrational at all.
Vertigo, Claustrophobia, Arachnophobia etc are all pretty sensible phobias with a biological background that makes total sense.