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FPL Team Value 2015/2016
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I think you missed his points.How have you actually done that? Without knowing your history, all you've proved is that it's possible to have a very high team value. How were you placed points-wise? And if you hadn't chased team value and took points hits to do this where might you have been placed instead?
Bizarre that you think you've silenced the nay-sayers with absolutely no facts other than how good you are at increasing value.
He said it's possible to increase your resale team value by £2-3m (actually it's possible to raise it a lot more even with the current system e.g. up to £5-6m by January
) without damaging your points total.
Of course, playing that way, you can't know how you'd scored playing a different way (unless you deliberately monitor it with a second team, which is officially forbidden) but what you do know is how well you're doing. FHFC reached the top 100 OR last year so it's pretty safe to say his team-value approach is not affecting his points total.
Anyway, what is a "nay-sayers"? I mean nay to what?0 -
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Right. I guess it's a misunderstanding thenAll I'm saying is I read his post and it came across as 1. Of course team value matters. 2. I play the game to increase team value. 3. So you're wrong.
There was nothing in it alone to show this was the correct way to prioritise things..
Think his point was I increased my resale value by £6-7m by January (FHFC was being very modest with £2-3m) and still managed a comfy top 5k OR, then, you guys who claim it's silly to look after your team value are wrong. It doesn't mean it's the only way to perform though.
He didn't. Just reached it. The loser couldn't handle the pressure :pac:...I had no idea he finished top 100, that speaks for itself.fwiw, I agree with almost all FHFC says, I just don't think he backed up his assertions well.
I can give a few of mines. I played my Jan WC during GW23 last year. My resale value was around £105m then. I notably cashed in importantly on Diego Costa & Austin (both players I didn't get back though I should for the latter for his DGW...). A little less on Hart & Wisdom (both were out for definite too). Silva was a different story. He's been in and out several times.
My OR was about 20-30k. So it is indeed possible to get a decent OR while increasing your tV with reason :cool:.
I finished the season at ~9k.
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How have you actually done that? Without knowing your history, all you've proved is that it's possible to have a very high team value. How were you placed points-wise? And if you hadn't chased team value and took points hits to do this where might you have been placed instead?
Bizarre that you think you've silenced the nay-sayers with absolutely no facts other than how good you are at increasing value.
I didnt want to seem to boast about ranking but I take the point re its relevance to the topic. In the pre christmas '14 period when I was building up my TV below are my OR from GW10-20 for illustration that it dint adversely affect my rank.
GW Total TV OR
Gameweek 10 £105.2m 4,066
Gameweek 11 £105.5m 2,841
Gameweek 12 £106.2m 2,463
Gameweek 13 £106.2m 4,306
Gameweek 14 £106.3m 5,243
Gameweek 15 £106.4m 2,018
Gameweek 16 £106.6m 343
Gameweek 17 £107.4m 609
Gameweek 18 £107.5m 1,028
Gameweek 19 £107.6m 749
Gameweek 20 £108.0m 745
I then screwed up my Jan wildcard, fell 20k before clawing back to a 5k finish. The year before I finished 8k overall in my first ever year playing.
I took 17 hits last year (-68) points but very few of them primarily motivated by value. I believe in taking points hits where needed and most paid off over the medium term IMO. Took some stupids ones - on one ocasion I brought Ballotelli in for -4 and captained him!!
Not sure this is "real". Don't forget we only have 2 price changes GWs data so far (we're starting the third), one of them being a HUGE WC week. So of course £0.2m rises were very hard to reach.
But there seems to be less active WCs this week (maybe with the international break approaching some people are holding on 'till then, I know I am
) and Mahrez already rose twice.
I was thinking about that part of my post afterwards and I think you are spot on. The high amount of wildcards in play due to the low scoring start to the season may be why the second rises are slower coming.The tied up value in premium players is always a problem though. Not only there is the value alone that may impede you to get the player back but there's the potentially wasted 2 (or more if you can't do the straight swap because of the lost tied up value) transfers (and the more the season goes the more precious tranfers become).
So, late in the season, we are sometimes reluctant to get rid of premium players in which we have £0.5m or more resale value tied in.
This is always going to happen when a player not highly owned early on, like Sanchez last year, becomes a long term keeper and rises steadily. Its not really anything to do with whether you chase value or not. In fact, as I alluded to in my OP the fact that my resale value was high allowed me to sell Sanchez around the time you did, in confidence that I could afford to buy him back even for 0.3 or 0.4 more.All I'm saying is I read his post and it came across as 1. Of course team value matters. 2. I play the game to increase team value. 3. So you're wrong.
There was nothing in it alone to show this was the correct way to prioritise things.
Maybe read this part again then.. "not everyone will want to or agree that its worth playing with a significant eye on value up till Xmas, and thats fine. This is how I play the game, how I like to play it, not everyones cup of tea." I am genuinely not preaching to anyone how to play the game, focusing on value as well as points is time consuming and tedious in many ways.
What I am saying is that people who say (a) its not possible to build up a much higher team value than others due to the recent price change trends and (b) its pointless to do so any way as there no major advantage in it - are wrong and I do stand over that. The figures I posted I think demonstrate that factually. Various throw away comments that come into every discussion about team value or price changes to this effect have bugged me kately and I want to put it out there and back it up that I disagree with this (ie, the statements at (a) and (b), not whether somebody decides to chase value or not)0 -
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I haven't WCed yet. Still don't know if I will during this international break.
I'm on £101.4 TV & £100.5M resale. Happy to see I'm not that far back GW3 WCers so far
. Though Coates will eventually drag me down £0.1m unless... 
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Just to try to piss you off a little like i used to do last year...
102.4 TV
100.9 Resale
GW3 wildcards rule!! 0 -
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