*********Motors Chat - Round 9 *********

Brian Scan

challengemaster wrote: »

Because I don't believe any driver is thick enough to take their foot off the brakes (causing them to hit anything) so they can yell at someone else.

Look at dashcam thread in this forum to see how thick drivers can be.

There are bad cyclists and bad drivers.

Would agree that vulnerability of cyclists should make them more cautious.

frozenfrozen

Brian Scan wrote: »

Sorry, didn't realize woman came back.

I agree that people do wrong everyday, that doesn't mean that it's not wrong.

Why would accident not have happened if bike was a car?

Not trying to be awkward.

challengemaster wrote: »

Because I don't believe any driver is thick enough to take their foot off the brakes (causing them to hit anything) so they can yell at someone else.

Basically that. Also the car in the wrong would have yielded for a car since they're big and hard to miss.

The rules of the road are guidelines. whatever about them being the law, it was clear this cyclist was being obtuse by following them so closely to the letter of the law that he actually crashed. what I mean by this is to reiterate the point that there's no use being right if you're dead. it's better to leave someone not yield than to crash into them. (I know the rules of the road are the law, but following them blindly is just asking to be killed on the road)

It's the same kind of vibe as this following video, except the man in this video is clever; and crashes on purpose to prove a point rather than to prove one person didn't follow a rule.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzE-IMaegzQ

Chris_Heilong

Well America dont give a **** about cyclists.

GvidoR

Did someone say 'murica? :pac:

166man

CIP4 wrote: »

I agree with both of you. The lc doesn't determine how well you will do in college it's simply a key to get in the door which you unfortunately need. With myself I did a very average lc at 475 points average in my course in college would be over 550 points so I would have some of the lowest points in the course yet id be well into the top 25% of the class college grades wise and have only had one repeat in first year now going into fourth year. Quite frankly lc is a piece of poss compared to most college courses but it teaches you the basics and you do need it.

Basics? Having done the leaving cert myself as well as my undergrad degree I can safely say that the LC is the toughest exams I have ever done. Don't know where you're getting your "basics" from as the level of knowledge you have to know for 6-7 subjects at the age of 17-18 is staggering.

I have a family member doing a PhD at the moment and even she reckons that the LC was the hardest set of exams she ever did.


My brother got his results today and is delighted, 475 points hopefully should get him to Galway this September. I'm very proud of him.

Foxhole Norman

Lads, go away with all yer 400+, feckin' try hards :pac:

All you need is 300. Done :P

Stheno

Wish me luck, am going to see a car for the Oh tonight.

As for the LC yes it is difficult, but I've done professional exams that were harder.
One set were 50% failure rate worldwide, the pass mark was 50% and to work in a particular field with them you'd to get a distinction first time in both exams.

6% of people got the distinction, and if you didn't get it, you couldnt resit to work in the field. No second chance at all.

That said so far (halfway through final year) my Masters has been fairly easy, certainly compared to the LC

Special Circumstances

Stheno wrote: »

One set were 50% failure rate worldwide, the pass mark was 50% and to work in a particular field with them you'd to get a distinction first time in both exams.

6% of people got the distinction, and if you didn't get it, you couldnt resit to work in the field. No second chance at all.

Bomb disposal?

CIP4

166man wrote: »

Basics? Having done the leaving cert myself as well as my undergrad degree I can safely say that the LC is the toughest exams I have ever done. Don't know where you're getting your "basics" from as the level of knowledge you have to know for 6-7 subjects at the age of 17-18 is staggering.

I have a family member doing a PhD at the moment and even she reckons that the LC was the hardest set of exams she ever did.


My brother got his results today and is delighted, 475 points hopefully should get him to Galway this September. I'm very proud of him.

No I can safely say that my college exams are in general far more difficult. First year engineering calcus was the most difficult exam I ever sat in my life 3 hours of complex enough maths 65% fail rate. Advanced Chemical reactions Ffs there is no leaving Cert subject that comes close to that. Even my organic chemistry and programming exams were very difficult. I suppose it depends what you do in college too.

Ah sure it will all be worth it in the end. Congrats to your brother btw it's a great feeling to get the results.

Gavman84

Had great trip up to coast road yesterday weather was decent too thankfully. 1100 kilometres done since yesterday morning and more tomorrow!

CIP4

Gavman84 wrote: »

Had great trip up to coast road yesterday weather was decent too thankfully. 1100 kilometres done since yesterday morning and more tomorrow!

That's fair going. I keep meaning to plan a decent road trip with some of the lads before summers out. I went around Kerry and Killarney for a day at the start of the year 600km. I always I carrying out big mileage in a day or two gives you a nice feel for the car and I think it does the engine wounded they all like a good spin every so often.

Gavman84

Two tanks gone too filled again earlier it's fond of it! Got 29mpg overall the best I'v seen yet!

CIP4

Gavman84 wrote: »

Two tanks gone too filled again earlier it's fond of it! Got 29mpg overall the best I'v seen yet!

That's not too bad I'd be happy enough with that in a car like yours still makes it expensive but sure wants its worth it your not too bad.

Duke O Smiley

For people who have done the Leaving Cert it is quite easy to go on about how irrelevant it is in the grand scheme of things and what not, and I don't doubt that it is, but there is no denying that the build up to and the exams themselves are very frightening for most. I mean that in the nicest way possible, the concern and well wishes have always been much appreciated but no amount could leave me calm walking into the exam hall.

Truthfully I didn't have a lot to worry about, but I was terrified. I don't particularly need a degree to do what I want to do in life, I didn't have to put in much (or any) effort to the LC, I knew that from the start but it still scared the ****e out of me as it neared. Not so much in the beginning.

I saw lots of tears today, good and bad. I had it easy, I do feel for some people, the LC mightn't mean much in the future but in the now times it means a lot to some people. Anyway, I dunno where I'm going with this, but I mean all of that in the nicest way I can possibly put it across.

Special Circumstances

Gavman84 wrote: »

Two tanks gone too filled again earlier it's fond of it! Got 29mpg overall the best I'v seen yet!

Was thinking close on 3 alright. Super? Or is that gone from the north too?
Any difference on higher octane?

Stheno

Special Circumstances wrote: »

Bomb disposal?

Nah an IT thing, there are a few of them out there

GvidoR

challengemaster

166man wrote: »

Basics? Having done the leaving cert myself as well as my undergrad degree I can safely say that the LC is the toughest exams I have ever done. Don't know where you're getting your "basics" from as the level of knowledge you have to know for 6-7 subjects at the age of 17-18 is staggering.

I have a family member doing a PhD at the moment and even she reckons that the LC was the hardest set of exams she ever did.

It's a difficult exam because of the sheer volume of crap you have to remember, but I certainly agree with CIP that it's definitely the basics. The level of knowledge you come away from the LC with is in most cases either extremely basic or fundamentally wrong/flawed - for the sole reason of the amount of stuff you're required to study. It's not possible to have proper in depth teaching when you have to cover 7+ syllabi in 2 years.

Most college exams are the same story - regurgitation of material. There's usually a lot fewer per exam period which means less material to study, and more exam periods that contribute to your overall fate - hence it's less stressful than the LC.

A PhD is an entirely different ballgame.

Gavman84

Special Circumstances wrote: »

Was thinking close on 3 alright. Super? Or is that gone from the north too?
Any difference on higher octane?

Not sure if they have it or not was a small garage I filled in up north along the route. Just regular unleaded. Was gone when back today anyway!

Noccy_Mondy

I know this is motors, but seeing as we're on about it - the reason why many feel the LC is one of the hardest exams is because of the sheer volume of subjects. 7 plus, usually unrelated topics are difficult to keep a grasp on at the best of times. I've had plenty of students that were in classes that just don't want to be there, just doing it because they have to. Being forced to do a subject, learn all its associated material, even though you don't like it is fairly hard going. Now compare that to college, where you should be doing what you love, obviously you will have a liking for it and so should find it easier. (I know a lot of courses have a module or two that everyone hates and is pointless, but on the grand scale of things).

So to sum up, if you love what you are doing, it doesn't feel hard/like work. Compare that to the LC where at best there might be 2/3 subjects that you feel enthusiastic about and excel in, the rest can be just a pain.

challengemaster

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

the rest can be just a pain.

Irish :pac:

ba_barabus

challengemaster wrote: »

Irish :pac:

GTF I have to teach it

Duke O Smiley

Well Irish was my best result. I picked no business or science subjects for the LC, have absolutely no interest in them so I didn't pick them. Everything I did pick I liked (to some degree) but despite that I was genuinely asked to "reconsider" and pick a science or business subject by the school.

Stheno

ba_barabus wrote: »

GTF I have to teach it

At least you don't have to teach the story of the miserable oul hag Peig anymore :pac:

ba_barabus

Stheno wrote: »

At least you don't have to teach the story of the miserable oul hag Peig anymore :pac:

That did so much to put people off Irish in the past :eek:

I prefer A Thig Ná Tit orm, much easier for the students and enjoyable enough.

Stheno

ba_barabus wrote: »

That did so much to put people off Irish in the past :eek:

There was something wrong with how they taught Irish, 13 years of learning it and I couldn't carry on a conversation in it now.

Yet five years of French and German, and I've still retained enough of it to be able to read a news article in either language, or have enough of a conversation to make myself understood.

Did ye see the lad in Mayo who got nine A1's? One of which was Japanese.....that he taught himself! :eek:

challengemaster

ba_barabus wrote: »

GTF I have to teach it

Sorry, but I absolutely hate it with a passion :pac: Did Bio/Phys/Chem/Applied maths myself back in the day, and I'd have gladly taken another 4 science subjects instead of Irish if I could!

ba_barabus

challengemaster wrote: »

Sorry, but I absolutely hate it with a passion :pac: Did Bio/Phys/Chem/Applied maths myself back in the day, and I'd have gladly taken another 4 science subjects instead of Irish if I could!

It's grand, also teach Business which I really love. I think my passion is rubbing off on people too.

In other news, I have purchased a Samsung S6 after 5 years of an iPhone.

challengemaster

ba_barabus wrote: »

I think my passion is rubbing off on people too.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::pac: