Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

mf240

Diet feeder me hole...

Make top quality bales and feed them to the milkers and give them meal in palour.

Even if you lost a litre or two i doubt it would pay the running costs for a second tractor and feeder. Plus knowing my luck the diet feeder would put its calfbed out on christmas day.

mahoney_j

mf240 wrote: »

Diet feeder me hole...

Make top quality bales and feed them to the milkers and give them meal in palour.

Even if you lost a litre or two i doubt it would pay the running costs for a second tractor and feeder. Plus knowing my luck the diet feeder would put its calfbed out on christmas day.

My feelings too on diet feeder too !!!!,but if I had one I'd make full use of it without going overboard complicating a diet .im Spring calving ,have lots of feed space so would have no real use for one unless I win the lotto or somebody wants to sponsor me one and a second tractor

Greengrass1

Milked out wrote: »

Sticking with the higher p ration gg?

Yeah but there under a bit if pressure last few wks so reckon they are lacking some energy

Milked out

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Yeah but there under a bit if pressure last few wks so reckon they are lacking some energy

No harm, beet pulp and barley should do the trick fine. Serious solids with you in fairness. Massive boost to winter price

Greengrass1

mahoney_j wrote: »

The auld diet feeder is useful after all ,that's great solids for this time of year .at 12.5 ltrs 5.54 fat 4.12 p here on last collection .50% of herd still milking oad .be fully dry next Monday am .cant wait !!!!

Trying to dry up 30 springs here atm. ****ers still pitting out a good sup of milk. Will only be 28 milking them should be back up to 80 by end of Feb

Greengrass1

Milked out wrote: »

No harm, beet pulp and barley should do the trick fine. Serious solids with you in fairness. Massive boost to winter price

This was the winter milkers yesterday at 11 o clock. Milked at 8

frazzledhome

mf240 wrote: »

Diet feeder me hole...

Make top quality bales and feed them to the milkers and give them meal in palour.

Even if you lost a litre or two i doubt it would pay the running costs for a second tractor and feeder. Plus knowing my luck the diet feeder would put its calfbed out on christmas day.

There's a sensible man

mahoney_j

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Trying to dry up 30 springs here atm. ****ers still pitting out a good sup of milk. Will only be 28 milking them should be back up to 80 by end of Feb

Have a few cows here still putting out 18.5/19 ltrs on oad ,fty bringing them back down to 0 kg feed over next few days then ad lib straw and 3 kg dm silage daily to dry them up

Milked out

Greengrass1 wrote: »

This was the winter milkers yesterday at 11 o clock. Milked at 8

I'd have a nap there myself. Have dry cows here on straw bedding in new yard but they seem very loose on bale silage over there. Must test the silage as I have weanlings in thst yard too similar as in dung is loose and they are dosed. Makes it much harder keeping en clean. A bit over stocked but will be bringing some back to cubicles next week. Silage is in a bale trailer in open yard and they seem fine otherwise. Stock at home are normal then...

kowtow

Dawggone wrote: »

Correct.


Volatility, as seen now in markets is relatively new. It arrived on the scene with globalization. Before that we had we had 7/8 yrs of low demand/stagnation followed by 7/8 yrs of good demand. I've lived through a few of these cycles and I actually believed that volatility was the new norm.

It's hard to explain but after a long time working in any market you stop looking at price and start "feeling the hands" - sensing who are the buyers and the sellers behind the price movement. Spend enough time in a market and you can sense this from the quality of the noise on the trading floor, and read the price moves with your eyes closed more or less.

When you get to the tops (and bottoms sometimes) of market runs the "hands" buying tend to be only the short term chancers, frequently on (borrowed money) margin and out for a quick gain - these are fragile counterparties and easily stopped out on both sides of their trades. That's why price volatility is so much a feature of prices around about a market turn. This is true in every time scale (markets which trade all day are always volatile when you look at them from millisecond to millisecond) - but when big changes are happening the volatility moves out to the daily, weekly, monthly time-scale. What we are really seeing is the whole complexion of the market changing shape.

It's a pity that the word volatility has been hijacked in dairying to refer to price drops - actually it was likely the same volatile "blow off top" in commodities which gave us the high prices of the last decade, as indeed it was the volatility of fragile speculative hands which marked the unsustainable prices at the end of the property boom - the stupidest buyer in the room (the shoe-shine boy of J P Morgan's famous quote) has, of course, the weakest hands and will be the fastest seller when the price turns against him. When the shoe-shine boys are buying, there are no stupider hands available to take the stock off them at a higher price.

I have a feeling that any sustained higher prices for the next few years and onwards will come - as it traditionally has - with wider and more troublesome inflation, and all that goes with that, and that the strong paper will be played from the short side as often than not.

Events move fast and things could still change that outlook, including a bit of military disturbance to oils, but over the past few months I've seen and heard little that would persuade me not to go into 2016 with that as a base case.

*You are right that it is a recent phenomenon in commodities, although not new - as with so many things the last big episode like this, and perhaps the start of the most recent commodity cycle, has it's roots in the early 1970's. Not many around now who remember "Survive '75" - so often these things repeat themselves when they are just about out of generational memory, which is why we always think 'things are different this time'

Greengrass1

Who said jerseys don't yield

http://www.donedeal.ie/view/10927491

blackdog1

mf240 wrote: »

Diet feeder me hole...

Make top quality bales and feed them to the milkers and give them meal in palour.

Even if you lost a litre or two i doubt it would pay the running costs for a second tractor and feeder. Plus knowing my luck the diet feeder would put its calfbed out on christmas day.

I agree if you have the feed space and the facilities to feed 6-8 kg in the parlour. I feed crimp wheat which is pitted and costs 150-160 a tonne with 25% maize meal. Impossible to feed in the parlour. Also lacking a bit of headspace so diet feeding really helps the heifers

whelan2

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Who said jerseys don't yield

http://www.donedeal.ie/view/10927491

Dont think the cover photo was taken recently

Deepsouthwest

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Who said jerseys don't yield

http://www.donedeal.ie/view/10927491

How much meal?!!

Deepsouthwest

Dawggone wrote: »

honestly cannot see where a price increase will come from, other than a major weather event. Apologies for the pessimistic post.

Unfortunately the major weather event is happening here!! Some rain all day long around these parts again today.

Timmaay

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Unfortunately the major weather event is happening here!! Some rain all day long around these parts again today.

Ffs it's mid December, I hope we get most of late Jan, Feb and March's rain now ha!

Altho if your living along the banks of the Shannon I could see your point ha.

Deepsouthwest

Timmaay wrote: »

Ffs it's mid December, I hope we get most of late Jan, Feb and March's rain now ha!

Altho if your living along the banks of the Shannon I could see your point ha.

I think my post was more in jest than anything else, note the exclamation mark(!)!! But totally agree on the fact this is a great time to most of our yearly rainfall allowance!

Dawggone

One of the best cows here off the factory this morning. Calved 6 weeks and producing 54L...

Feckin IBR.

darragh_haven

Dawggone wrote: »

One of the best cows here off the factory this morning. Calved 6 weeks and producing 54L...

Feckin IBR.

Pity to have to send her off when she's one of the top ones but it's best to pull the pin and move on. There is little room for sentiment in business.
Some size of an udder on her

Dawggone

darragh_haven wrote: »

Pity to have to send her off when she's one of the top ones but it's best to pull the pin and move on. There is little room for sentiment in business.
Some size of an udder on her

Yep. Have daughters of her in the herd and they're not a patch on her.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Just a quick piece of info for anyone who has bought quota pre-2000.

Get the volume bought from your processor as you can have a big (or very big:D) capital loss available from the abolition of quotas. It can reduce any CGT due by you in the next few years.

alps

Today is the day...

The evenings get longer from today......

Won't be long now till were basking in meadows of grass and sunshine.....

Cow Porter

alps wrote: »

Today is the day...

The evenings get longer from today......

Won't be long now till were basking in meadows of grass and sunshine.....

Are you 5 days early

alps

Cow Porter wrote: »

Are you 5 days early

21st is the shortest day....sunset gets later from today but sunrise continues to get later until around the 1st Jan....leaving the shortest I n yh 21st...

Solstice this year early morning on the 22nd....guess that's where the leap year comes in and shoves that date back go 21st for next year...

In fact I reckon the IFA elections have been put yo a leap year so as to be able to pay an extra days pay to th he president on his last year.....😂....

Buford T. Justice XIX

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Just a quick piece of info for anyone who has bought quota pre-2000.

Get the volume bought from your processor as you can have a big (or very big:D) capital loss available from the abolition of quotas. It can reduce any CGT due by you in the next few years.

And i forgot quota value on the date of transfer into your name which is also gone can also be deducted from CGT due as well.

I is excite:o

kevthegaff

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

And i forgot quota value on the date of transfer into your name which is also gone can also be deducted from CGT due as well.

I is excite:o

What about quota bought recently

Buford T. Justice XIX

kevthegaff wrote: »

What about quota bought recently

I don't know, Kev. I assume that quota was depreciated as normal and treated as a normal farm asset

kowtow

alps wrote: »

Today is the day...

The evenings get longer from today......

Won't be long now till were basking in meadows of grass and sunshine.....

“Jaysis there’s a grand stretch in the evenings now” said dairy farmer Bertie Curtis, out standing in his field. “I’ll be able to get the silage boiled and the bulls teeth straightened now, no bother. It makes a big difference! Twas only last week you couldn’t leave the house after six o’clock, because it was as dark as the inside of a cow with her eyes shut and her tail down.”

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/02/17/stretch-in-evening-upgraded-to-grand/

Brown Podzol

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

And i forgot quota value on the date of transfer into your name which is also gone can also be deducted from CGT due as well.

I is excite:o

Big capital gain realised so. When's de party.:D

keep going

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

And i forgot quota value on the date of transfer into your name which is also gone can also be deducted from CGT due as well.

I is excite:o

are you saying the quota that was transfered to me in 96 can be allowed against capital gains made this year.it would be perfect timing as i made a nice killing on a small investment this year and could do with some losses to balance