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Greengrass1

Sold heap stock today. It'll ease the mp woes a bit.
Milk now and go feed the heifers at out farm, while 2 heifers calve as I'm writing this. All go here

mahoney_j

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Sold heap stock today. It'll ease the mp woes a bit.
Milk now and go feed the heifers at out farm, while 2 heifers calve as I'm writing this. All go here

I told u those cull cows and bull calves were more than beer money!!

td5man

What are culls making?

Dawggone

Culled 6 today that are 6mts gone scanned with twins...the agent is replacing them with freshly calved heifers doing 38-42L per day.

What price milking cows...?

kevthegaff

Dawggone wrote: »

Culled 6 today that are 6mts gone scanned with twins...the agent is replacing them with freshly calved heifers doing 38-42L per day.

What price milking cows...?

Who are selling these cows your buying Dawggone?

Dawggone

kevthegaff wrote: »

Who are selling these cows your buying Dawggone?

They're from robot herds.

Greengrass1

td5man wrote: »

What are culls making?

I got from 500-800 for the culls I sold today. 500 was for a 2nd lactation heifer. All she ever did was milk off her back

Dawggone

Greengrass1 wrote: »

All she ever did was milk off her back

I never heard of a poor milker like that...until now.

Greengrass1

mahoney_j wrote: »

I told u those cull cows and bull calves were more than beer money!!

Sold few last spring bulls we kept. Would have been better off letting them on as calves.

mahoney_j

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Sold few last spring bulls we kept. Would have been better off letting them on as calves.

And get????.ive a shed full of white head,blue and fr bulls(some will go for breeding )I'd of list money letting em off as calves for BEER money .do em well as calves ,good grass and some meal and there's money to be turned on them ,unless your maxed out with cows calves should be kept and sold early autumn or early spring following year

Milked out

mahoney_j wrote: »

And get????.ive a shed full of white head,blue and fr bulls(some will go for breeding )I'd of list money letting em off as calves for BEER money .do em well as calves ,good grass and some meal and there's money to be turned on them ,unless your maxed out with cows calves should be kept and sold early autumn or early spring following year

With your herd mj have you considered keeping heifers and selling in calf or calved instead of beef cattle? Or would you need extra facilities?

Milked out

mahoney_j wrote: »

And get????.ive a shed full of white head,blue and fr bulls(some will go for breeding )I'd of list money letting em off as calves for BEER money .do em well as calves ,good grass and some meal and there's money to be turned on them ,unless your maxed out with cows calves should be kept and sold early autumn or early spring following year

With your herd mj have you considered keeping heifers and selling in calf or calved instead of beef cattle? Or would you need extra facilities?

Timmaay

mahoney_j wrote: »

And get????.ive a shed full of white head,blue and fr bulls(some will go for breeding )I'd of list money letting em off as calves for BEER money .do em well as calves ,good grass and some meal and there's money to be turned on them ,unless your maxed out with cows calves should be kept and sold early autumn or early spring following year

I think GG is fairly maxed out on the overall farm SR as is? Our only beef animal was a runt of a bullock who twice got no bids at the mart as a calf ha, I got 800e for him when he was around the 20months old from a dealer out of the yard, couldn't believe he made that much ha, however the little sh1t managed to get one of our best heifers incalf, she calved down in dec as a small 20month old. She could really have done with the extra 3 months of growing, how much of the 800e do you subtract for a mistake like that haha?

mahoney_j

Milked out wrote: »

With your herd mj have you considered keeping heifers and selling in calf or calved instead of beef cattle? Or would you need extra facilities?

All my young stock heifers now genotyped and with shackles of quota gone I will reach max stock nos on milk block next year at a Sr of 3.5 ,I'll settle there and then access things and see if I could push further without feeding crazy amounts of meal ,z grazing or going winter milking .most of herd is put in calf to Ai fr with some Bb on cows I don't want to breed from ,Hereford bull is given a run from mid June to mid July.i have sold calved stock and heifers previously and will do so again after next year .ai is a fair slog from late April to mid June and I'm quite happy to have a Hereford bull to mop up rather than a fr stock bull .lad I have now is easy calving and bring lively calves

Greengrass1

mahoney_j wrote: »

And get????.ive a shed full of white head,blue and fr bulls(some will go for breeding )I'd of list money letting em off as calves for BEER money .do em well as calves ,good grass and some meal and there's money to be turned on them ,unless your maxed out with cows calves should be kept and sold early autumn or early spring following year

Av 580 for the AA bulls. Would have got 200e at 2 was old.
We're at 2.5 overall this yr and we're only going to keep heifers and cows. Will push overall Sr a little bit higher but want to make sure we can meet our silage requirements first.
I could stock mp to 3.1 next yr but I've slot of work to do else where so going to breed them all and sell what we don't need next spring and bring us back down to this yrs no's or a few extra

RightTurnClyde

mahoney_j wrote: »

All my young stock heifers now genotyped and with shackles of quota gone I will reach max stock nos on milk block next year at a Sr of 3.5 ,I'll settle there and then access things and see if I could push further without feeding crazy amounts of meal ,z grazing or going winter milking .most of herd is put in calf to Ai fr with some Bb on cows I don't want to breed from ,Hereford bull is given a run from mid June to mid July.i have sold calved stock and heifers previously and will do so again after next year .ai is a fair slog from late April to mid June and I'm quite happy to have a Hereford bull to mop up rather than a fr stock bull .lad I have now is easy calving and bring lively calves

MJ, at a SR of 3.5 on the milking block, what will you're overall SR be

mahoney_j

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

MJ, at a SR of 3.5 on the milking block, what will you're overall SR be

2.8 plus ,I'll need to consider contract rearing ,buying standing crops of silage etc ,nothing set in stone I'll see how things go,could postpone things and govwithba lower Sr on milk block and sell heifers or some cows if this market slump continues

frazzledhome

mahoney_j wrote: »

2.8 plus ,I'll need to consider contract rearing ,buying standing crops of silage etc ,nothing set in stone I'll see how things go,could postpone things and govwithba lower Sr on milk block and sell heifers or some cows if this market slump continues

Will you be keeping calves when Sr. Gets to that level?

visatorro

any one cross breeding with any breed other than jersey? no problem with jersey just wondering.

visatorro

mahoney_j wrote: »

And get????.ive a shed full of white head,blue and fr bulls(some will go for breeding )I'd of list money letting em off as calves for BEER money .do em well as calves ,good grass and some meal and there's money to be turned on them ,unless your maxed out with cows calves should be kept and sold early autumn or early spring following year

still have some of last years fr bulls. sept/oct. didn't hold on to them on purpose just never got around to selling them, had grass and feed. bastards got a touch of pneumonia in the shed them. all melted. so ill have to hold them now for a while until they are saleable again. need the space they are taking up aswell.

I know you'll turn a couple of euro but tb or what happened me I think is too much of a risk for the return on them.

orm0nd

Saw where a large consignment of yearling Jersey heifers from Denmark arrived in Cork

RightTurnClyde

orm0nd wrote: »

Saw where a large consignment of yearling Jersey heifers from Denmark arrived in Cork

Are they for Moorepark?

Greengrass1

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Are they for Moorepark?

Ye for Moorepark. They are going to try and get genomics on jerseys going

whelan2

Waiting on Electrician. Power went just before I started washing. I am the only one on my line. Cow had twins also

Markcheese

johnny122 wrote:

Have you some hard facts to back up your optimism?

Farming is, and always was cyclical and long term .... who knows what milk price will be by the time land is bought - seeded- stocked etc, interest rates are at a low level at the moment ( dunno if its possible to get long term fixed rate commercial loans though ) -
At least if (when) interest rates go through the roof in the future it'll be a low debt farm thats supporting the intetest payments ...
Good luck with it ....

whelan2

Had to get esb out. Wire off top of pole. They fixed the same wire this time last year. Painful to watch them "working"

alps

visatorro wrote: »

any one cross breeding with any breed other than jersey? no problem with jersey just wondering.

Did the whole experiment over the last 15 years, Montbeliarde, Jersey, Sweedish Red, and Danish Red even the Ho/Je/Sr three way cross, but the most effective and profitable cross for here was by far the BrFr/Ho cross.

My favourite cross was the Danish Red Cross. Beautiful angular, dairy animals, black in colour, black hooves, taller and more milky than the JeX, and really good fertility. They just didn't have the resale and offspring value of the BrFrX and as a package wouldnt deliver.

We sold all the the experiment section in one go, but failed to sell the 3 way X. Tiny cows, Milked very well in ratio to their body weight, and eventually got culled around lactation 7/8 as udders sagged too much and cups were kinked against the ground.

Montbelliardes were very heavy animals, all giving over 500kg ms but we're extremely hard on themselves calving, massive calves, and also difficult to get them to mature to calve at 24 months with the rest.

Might look again at Danish Red as public perception towards X breds has certainly softened, but if you want EBI it is going to be very difficult to overlook the black and whites....

Dawggone

Anyone read the piece on Agriland from Andrew Hoggard of Federated Farmers New Zealand?

Sorry can't post link...

kevthegaff

Dawggone wrote: »

Anyone read the piece on Agriland from Andrew Hoggard of Federated Farmers New Zealand?

Sorry can't post link...

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/irish-farmers-scrap-farm-subsidies-new-zealand-dairy-leader/

think this is it, have to agree with him rather than paying armchair farmers hefty rents..

Milked out

Dawggone wrote: »

Anyone read the piece on Agriland from Andrew Hoggard of Federated Farmers New Zealand?

Sorry can't post link...

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/fonterra-offered-just-30-product-global-dairy-trade-2015 this one?