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Sanctity of Life (Abortion Megathread)

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    #1652
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,726 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    MOD NOTE

    Threads merged.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #1653
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,440 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    credoie wrote: »
    Tide is turning on the killing baby industry. Planned Parenthood is defunded. Lets hope that Ireland keeps the 8th and defends its children and Mothers.

    Erm.... no its not, and even if it was to lose government funding ir would still be open for business tomorrow.


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    #1654
    credoie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭credoie


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Erm.... no its not, and even if it was to lose government funding ir would still be open for business tomorrow.

    A lot of people in the US questioning practice. Did you watch the videos. Those are the words of the abortion industry. The Kill children for their livers, kidneys, hearts, brains.

    What is worse.. The abortion industry paid for the procedure for some women so they could abort.

    its become clear that that its not tissue anymore. These are real children that are killed to provide a profit to an corrupt industry.

    We campaign to stop animal testing, yet we are killing Children to give their tissue to medical research.

    Video's are powerful things, its not long an opinion. We have hard facts.


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    #1655
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,440 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    credoie wrote: »
    A lot of people in the US questioning practice. Did you watch the videos. Those are the words of the abortion industry. The Kill children for their livers, kidneys, hearts, brains.

    What is worse.. The abortion industry paid for the procedure for some women so they could abort.

    its become clear that that its not tissue anymore. These are real children that are killed to provide a profit to an corrupt industry.

    We campaign to stop animal testing, yet we are killing Children to give their tissue to medical research.

    Video's are powerful things, its not long an opinion. We have hard facts.

    Maybe you need to watch the video's yourself and then come back and explain what PP have done that's illegal.


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    #1656
    credoie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭credoie


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Maybe you need to watch the video's yourself and then come back and explain what PP have done that's illegal.

    I did. Did you? How do you think they pay their CEO over $600K? They make a profit from abortion, from killing children, Preying on venerable.

    The emperor has not cloths and everyone can see it now. Its time to stand for human rights, from all human beings, not matter how big or small.


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    #1657
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,726 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    credoie wrote: »
    A lot of people in the US questioning practice. Did you watch the videos. Those are the words of the abortion industry. The Kill children for their livers, kidneys, hearts, brains.

    What is worse.. The abortion industry paid for the procedure for some women so they could abort.

    its become clear that that its not tissue anymore. These are real children that are killed to provide a profit to an corrupt industry.

    We campaign to stop animal testing, yet we are killing Children to give their tissue to medical research.

    Video's are powerful things, its not long an opinion. We have hard facts.

    No.

    What is actually happening is in some states, women can donate the foetus to be used for medical research after they have an abortion.

    The women could have the abortion irrespective of the decision to donate (or not) the foetus for use in medical research.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #1658
    credoie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭credoie


    Delirium wrote: »
    No.

    What is actually happening is in some states, women can donate the foetus to be used for medical research after they have an abortion.

    The women could have the abortion irrespective of the decision to donate (or not) the foetus for use in medical research.

    foetus,,, Thats not what planned parenthood called it. It was baby tissue, baby heart, baby brain, live, skin, lung, kidney..


    Any when your abortion was FREE... then how could this be a "donation"... ??

    the fussy word,, obscure reasons don't add up anymore.

    Planned parenthood did not sell or donate a foetus, they sold HUMAN TISSUE, A BABY's heart..


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    #1659
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,726 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    credoie wrote: »
    foetus,,, Thats not what planned parenthood called it. It was baby tissue, baby heart, baby brain, live, skin, lung, kidney..

    Any when your abortion was FREE... then how could this be a "donation"... ??

    the fussy word,, obscure reasons don't add up anymore.

    Planned parenthood did not sell or donate a foetus, they sold HUMAN TISSUE, A BABY's heart..

    The woman gives consent for the foetus to be taken for use in medical research without seeking remuneration.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #1660
    credoie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭credoie


    Delirium wrote: »
    The woman gives consent for the foetus to be taken for use in medical research without seeking remuneration.

    But planned parenthood didn't call it a Foetus ... Did they? According to then it was a Boy or a baby.

    and they DID give free abortions to women who "donated" their babies to PP could sell them on.

    Its all there for anyone to hear, I'm not making anything up. Its time to give rights back to children. to a human beings.


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    #1661
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,726 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    credoie wrote: »
    But planned parenthood didn't call it a Foetus ... Did they? According to time it was a Boy or a baby.

    and they DID give free abortions to women who "donated" their babies do PP could sell them on.

    Its all there for anyone to hear, I'm not making anything up. Its time to give rights back to children to a human beings.

    Would the free abortion be withdrawn if the woman refused to donate the foetus for medical research? Also do you have evidence that PP sold foetal tissue?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #1662
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,440 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    credoie wrote: »
    I did. Did you? How do you think they pay their CEO over $600K? They make a profit from abortion, from killing children, Preying on venerable.

    The emperor has not cloths and everyone can see it now. Its time to stand for human rights, from all human beings, not matter how big or small.

    Abortion consists of 3% of the procedures they carry out. Again I will ask, where is the EVIDENCE of illegal activity in any of the videos?


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    #1663
    frag420
    Registered Users Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭frag420


    credoie wrote: »
    I did. Did you? How do you think they pay their CEO over $600K?l.

    Did the CEO get a promotion because last month the anti choice brigade said it was $500k


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    #1664
    credoie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭credoie


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Abortion consists of 3% of the procedures they carry out. Again I will ask, where is the EVIDENCE of illegal activity in any of the videos?

    Ah... What is LEGAL in a country is not always what is right. It was legal to segregate blacks in South Africa, but it was not right.

    Dr. Deborah Nucatola was clear that profiting was better than mere reimbursement

    I think for affiliates…they want to break even. And if they can do a little better than break even, and do so in a way that seems reasonable, they’re happy to do that.

    also they altered their procedures to obtain clean tissue.

    No alteration of the timing, method, or procedures used to terminate the pregnancy was made solely for the purposes of obtaining the tissue.

    Times are changing, and people are waking up to the fact that abortion is an affront on humanity, on the HUMAN rights of the child.

    The only difference between an unborn Child and you is time, circumstances should not determine their dignity.

    Thankfully our laws see the value of the child, its Human right.


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    #1665
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,851 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Have you got any polls to suggest an increase in support for forced pregnancy?


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    #1666
    credoie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭credoie


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Have you got any polls to suggest an increase in support for forced pregnancy?

    Pro-Choice semantics out in force today??

    248-177 vote was a good poll today to defund PP.

    in 2009 it was 50:50.. with the videos that have been released it has certainly put the spotlight on the baby killing industry and its secret harvesting of baby tissue for profit. its CEO didn't get paid 600K from nowhere.

    We all see abortion for what it is now. its killing a Child. As PP said in one of its videos.. Another Boy..


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    #1667
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,440 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    credoie wrote: »
    Ah... What is LEGAL in a country is not always what is right. It was legal to segregate blacks in South Africa, but it was not right.




    Times are changing, and people are waking up to the fact that abortion is an affront on humanity, on the HUMAN rights of the child.

    The only difference between an unborn Child and you is time, circumstances should not determine their dignity.

    Thankfully our laws see the value of the child, its Human right.

    So no evidence of illegal activity?


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    #1668
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,726 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    credoie wrote: »
    Pro-Choice semantics out in force today??

    248-177 vote was a good poll today to defund PP.

    in 2009 it was 50:50.. with the videos that have been released it has certainly put the spotlight on the baby killing industry and its secret harvesting of baby tissue for profit. its CEO didn't get paid 600K from nowhere.

    We all see abortion for what it is now. its killing a Child. As PP said in one of its videos.. Another Boy..

    Any chance of providing some evidence of this?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #1669
    credoie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭credoie


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    So no evidence of illegal activity?

    No evidence. Do you want me to start posting the photos of the dead children? its all out there to see.


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    #1670
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,440 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    credoie wrote: »
    Pro-Choice semantics out in force today??

    248-177 vote was a good poll today to defund PP.

    in 2009 it was 50:50.. with the videos that have been released it has certainly put the spotlight on the baby killing industry and its secret harvesting of baby tissue for profit. its CEO didn't get paid 600K from nowhere.

    We all see abortion for what it is now. its killing a Child. As PP said in one of its videos.. Another Boy..

    The only truthful thing you have posted so far.


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    #1671
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,440 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    credoie wrote: »
    No evidence. Do you want me to start posting the photos of the dead children? its all out there to see.

    Show evidence of PP carrying out ILLEGAL activity please.


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    #1672
    credoie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭credoie


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    The only truthful thing you have posted so far.

    So making money from killing children is fine with you?


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    #1673
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,440 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    credoie wrote: »
    So making money from killing children is fine with you?

    Ammunition makers make money from killing children, your pension fund probably has shares in thay company ergo you are making money from killing children


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    #1674
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,726 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    credoie wrote: »
    No evidence. Do you want me to start posting the photos of the dead children? its all out there to see.
    Abortion isn't illegal so what would be the point of the photos? Have you evidence of secret harvesting for profit?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #1675
    credoie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭credoie


    Delirium wrote: »
    Abortion isn't illegal so what would be the point of the photos? Have you evidence of secret harvesting for profit?

    Slavery wasn't illegal, Racial segregation wasn't illegal, Gay Marriage was illegal.

    Laws change went compelling arguments are made showing the abuse of human rights. And abortions is one of them.

    They are killing Children and its wrong.


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    #1676
    credoie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭credoie


    Delirium wrote: »
    Abortion isn't illegal so what would be the point of the photos? Have you evidence of secret harvesting for profit?

    Slavery was legal, Racial segregation was legal, Gay Marriage was illegal.

    Laws change went compelling arguments are made showing the abuse of human rights. And abortion is one of them.

    They are killing Children and its wrong.


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    #1677
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,726 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    credoie wrote: »
    Slavery was legal, Racial segregation was legal, Gay Marriage was illegal.

    Laws change went compelling arguments are made showing the abuse of human rights. And abortion is one of them.

    They are killing Children and its wrong.

    So that's a no to providing some evidence then and we can just put it down as an unsubstantiated claim.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #1678
    credoie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭credoie


    Delirium wrote: »
    So that's a no to providing some evidence then and we can just put it down as an unsubstantiated claim.

    unsubstantiated.?? Did you hear the news? Their funding would not have been stopped if it was unsubstantiated.

    Wakeup to the brutal reality of the baby killing industry.


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    #1679
    robdonn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭robdonn


    credoie wrote: »
    unsubstantiated.?? Did you hear the news? Their funding would not have been stopped if it was unsubstantiated.

    Wakeup to the brutal reality of the baby killing industry.

    They also defunded climate change research. Politicians will make bad decisions to try keep their jobs and incomes.


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    #1680
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,726 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    credoie wrote: »
    unsubstantiated.?? Did you hear the news? Their funding would not have been stopped if it was unsubstantiated.

    Wakeup to the brutal reality of the baby killing industry.

    Yeah, because politicans would never do such thing. :rolleyes:

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #1681
    credoie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭credoie


    robdonn wrote: »
    Politicians will make bad decisions to try keep their jobs and incomes.

    Let the american people vote on it then. without a shadow of a doubt abortion would be made illegal.


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