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Brits at it again....

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    #32
    John_Rambo
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    I'll let you in to a secret.

    The Brits are actually quiet fond of us. Lots of them live here, love here, holiday here and fall in love with us.

    I don't think they were claiming him, just pointing out that he's the first one to come from the British Isles to achieve what he achieved.

    The BBC are a British company, so they'd hardly say he's the first from Ireland and Spain to achieve what he achieved.

    It's just a thing. That's all. He rose up amongst the ranks, they pointed out he beat all the British fighters to get to this point.


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    #33
    SoulTrader
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    Related:

    Jonathan Rhys-Meyers drunk in the street:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3085247/Troubled-star-Jonathan-Rhys-Meyers-looks-worse-wear-disorientated-s-pictured-drinking-bottle-vodka-London-street.html
    Shocking photos have emerged of Irish actor Jonathan Rhys Meyers drinking vodka straight from the bottle on a London street this week.

    A sober and dapper Jonathan Rhys-Meyers getting engaged:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2875010/The-Tudors-actor-Jonathan-Rhys-Meyers-engaged-girlfriend-Mara-Lane.html
    The happy couple: British actor Jonathan Rhys Meyers and Mara Lane have reportedly got engaged after a whirlwind seven month romance


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    #34
    Aint Eazy Being Cheezy
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Quite a few unionists would disagree.

    Fair enough. But can you think of any successful unionist sportsmen that we've championed as one of our own recently, or ever? I can't.


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    #35
    haveringchick
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    seenitall wrote: »
    Really??

    If he were British, do you think that that sentence from the BBC would read "...the first UFC Champion from the UK or the Republic of Ireland." ?

    Like heck it would.

    But no British folk are to be found obsessing in a permanent state of comedic outrage about the Irish.
    Thats just your thing.


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    #36
    kneemos
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    The Cunning Linguist wrote: »
    Fair enough. But can you think of any successful unionist sportsmen that we've championed as one of our own recently, or ever? I can't.


    Graham Mc Dowell,Darren Clarke,Mcllroy all very much British I think despite our claims on them.


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    #37
    dxhound2005
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    This is what the BBC should have said. For their British audience. You know it makes sense.

    McGregor, 26, won in Las Vegas to become the first UFC champion from the British Isles.


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    #38
    irishmover
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    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    This is what the BBC should have said. For their British audience. You know it makes sense.

    McGregor, 26, won in Las Vegas to become the first UFC champion from the British and Irish Isles.

    Think you missed something there.


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    #39
    Aint Eazy Being Cheezy
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Graham Mc Dowell,Darren Clarke,Mcllroy all very much British I think despite our claims on them.

    They're Northern Irish though. It'd depend on your pov as to whether they're British or Irish. For your point to be valid it'd have to be about someone such as Wayne Rooney. Irish roots but he was born in England and identifies as English.


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    #40
    ArtSmart
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    SoulTrader wrote: »
    Related:

    Jonathan Rhys-Meyers drunk in the street:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3085247/Troubled-star-Jonathan-Rhys-Meyers-looks-worse-wear-disorientated-s-pictured-drinking-bottle-vodka-London-street.html



    A sober and dapper Jonathan Rhys-Meyers getting engaged:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2875010/The-Tudors-actor-Jonathan-Rhys-Meyers-engaged-girlfriend-Mara-Lane.html


    Yes, I remember reading both of those. The Brenda Fricker quip is pretty accurate.

    The OP is prob wrong in this instance, but that don't mean this type of selective nation identity doesn't exist. (Yes, double negs, so what?)


    Poor aul Johnny R-M. Good actor, potentially great actor. Hope he is ok.


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    #41
    Red Kev
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    The Cunning Linguist wrote: »
    Be serious for one second. I'm the least militant person you could meet when it comes to this subject, but I'd certainly consider anyone born on this island as one of ours.


    So the Shankill Butchers are "one of us".

    Christ above !


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    #42
    anncoates
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    Ole Ole Ole


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    #43
    John_Rambo
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    anncoates wrote: »
    Ole Ole Ole

    :pac:

    Rule Britannia! Edit >>> John Rambo has been shot.


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    #44
    dixiefly
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    Mightydrumming wrote: »
    Grab a load of this bullsh!t :rolleyes:



    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/33497089

    who cares


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    #45
    eeguy
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    The Cunning Linguist wrote: »
    They're Northern Irish though. It'd depend on your pov as to whether they're British or Irish. For your point to be valid it'd have to be about someone such as Wayne Rooney. Irish roots but he was born in England and identifies as English.

    If they don't have an Irish passport or parents from the ROI, then they're not Irish, at least not where there's a divide between being Irish or British.

    McIlroy is British, and from Northern Ireland.

    He's not Irish, unless you wish to call him Northern Irish


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    #46
    Joeseph Balls
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    eeguy wrote: »
    If they don't have an Irish passport or parents from the ROI, then they're not Irish, at least not where there's a divide between being Irish or British.

    McIlroy is British, and from Northern Ireland.

    He's not Irish, unless you wish to call him Northern Irish
    He does have an Irish passport. And a British one. And raises a northern flag


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    #47
    LollipopJimmy
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    fleet_admiral wrote: »
    They are welcome to him imo

    Why? He's a world champion UFC fighter. Whilet you may not like his persona it's all part of the game. Plus at the moment MMA is keeping a lot of young men away from drink and drugs and teaching them all about taking care of their own bodies and nutrition. Instead of spending their money on a couple of grams of coke on a Saturday they're spending it on gym membership and paleo food. A good portion of that is down to Conor McGregor.

    I can't understand the Irish begrudgery

    As for the op I don't think it's the usual claimed and I'd let them away with that one


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    #48
    NotCominBack
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    I think its great, Ireland and UK together - sure we're practically the same


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    #49
    Grab All Association
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    Okay Google, What is Britishness?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo_Farah#/media/File:Mo_Farah_(2)_Moscow_2013.jpg
    Farah was born on 23 March 1983 in Mogadishu, Somalia. He hails from the Isaaq clan and his full name is Mohamed Muktar Jama Farah. He spent the early years of his childhood in Djibouti with his twin brother. He later moved to Britain at the age of eight to join his father, speaking barely a word of English.


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    #50
    mfceiling
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    dixiefly wrote: »
    who cares

    Exactly. A thread about nothing. It's like some people sit at their keyboards all day waiting to be offended about something. Lifes too short for this sh*t.


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    #51
    Diabhal Beag
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    Argh Britain argh etc etc


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    #52
    Banjoxed
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    Oh noes, we'll all have to wear Union Jack knickers.








    (not really)


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    #53
    seenitall
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    haveringchick wrote: »
    But no British folk are to be found obsessing in a permanent state of comedic outrage about the Irish.
    Thats just your thing.

    My thing? :pac:

    I'm not even Irish. (Or British.)

    I just know a slyly implied appropriation when I see it.


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    #54
    Joeseph Balls
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    seenitall wrote: »
    I just know a slyly implied appropriation when I see it.

    Ah sure you've seenitall ;)


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    #55
    Wright
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    Mightydrumming wrote: »
    Grab a load of this bullsh!t :rolleyes:



    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/33497089

    Quick English lesson here (since that is, ironically, what you are speaking). The 'or' suggests the U.K. has also never had a champion. There's no appropriation implied.

    So, I have to ask; troll post or just racism dragging your I.Q. down?


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    #56
    dxhound2005
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    Wright wrote: »
    Quick English lesson here (since that is, ironically, what you are speaking). The 'or' suggests the U.K. has also never had a champion. There's no appropriation implied.

    So, I have to ask; troll post or just racism dragging your I.Q. down?

    It's not racism. English or British is not a race. It's xenophobia.


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    #57
    anncoates
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    Tiocfaidh ár lá


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    #58
    Cold War Kid
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    eeguy wrote: »
    If they don't have an Irish passport or parents from the ROI, then they're not Irish, at least not where there's a divide between being Irish or British.

    McIlroy is British, and from Northern Ireland.

    He's not Irish, unless you wish to call him Northern Irish
    Someone from Northern Ireland can be Irish, British and Northern Irish.


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    Wright wrote: »
    Quick English lesson here (since that is, ironically, what you are speaking). The 'or' suggests the U.K. has also never had a champion. There's no appropriation implied.

    So, I have to ask; troll post or just racism dragging your I.Q. down?

    I think that's a thread closing point, it being inarguable while destroying the premise of the OP.


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    #60
    seenitall
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I think that's a thread closing point, it being inarguable while destroying the premise of the OP.

    The appropriation is implied and not direct; it is still there. You're free to disagree.


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    #61
    dd972
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    They're just stating the first champion from the ''British Isles'', another contentious term but it's largely used geographically, in the same sense that Scandinavia is apart from mainland Europe. We shouldn't be too precious about being lumped in together culturally.


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