Boards FF Pay League 2015-16

hufpc8w3adnk65

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

I see that MrMac84 is listed twice there Lemlin. Is that an error?

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zarquon

Lemlin wrote: »

Here's the 92 who have paid:

Spock
Boots234
Hackers
Stephenl15
FHFC
CSF
Jimmii
Alchemist33
Ziegler1988
Patmac
internet_user
KevIRL
FinnHarpsBoy
TaytoCrisps
The inciredible pudding
Maximo31
Trimm Trabb
Lefty2Guns
BikeRacer
OneColdHand
Remoteboy
Cdev
Dearg81
Markx
Lassykk
wardie101
Mrwillbeback
Menoscemo
Chesty08
Hardbreaks
Beeduybe
Crumbs
Park1ife
Tossy
Zarquon
MrMac84
Easy Rod
FrClintPower
Bazwin
Arnold Layne
Wamble
Mike Ehrmantraut
Dice75
Username_here
Mcgettigan16
Swiper the Fox
Dahat
Joeyjoejoe43
Scorpion King
grohlisagod
skyfall256
itsnotmyfault
Nib
Necronomican
Dublinhead
Furryhead
Bobafett3099
Timbel
Greedygoblin
Seklly
Stiffler123
Jaws2
Boofsteino
Cluray
James123
silversun_pickup
AKDK
Handofdog
Hairy_Nipples_87
Fizman
Headerman
Lucas Hood
Iused2likebusts
P.Walnuts
Hype710
Ironman76
MrSkinny
bkrangle
Earthhorse
Claw
Nightingale
LightningBlue
Cypher_Sounds
Toalken
OwlsZat
LuckyCharms
Adpro
Ironman76
Irish Son
Podge018
Thunderdog
Christal Palace

Two entries for Ironman76 there also!

Lemlin

zarquon wrote: »

Two entries for Ironman76 there also!

Oops, looks like I may have counted him twice because I had him registered once as Simon C and then again as Simon Carroll.

Will cross reference it now.

Lemlin

Edit - I've now spent the past 40 minutes exporting data from my online banking account to Excel and cross checking it. There are 93 transfers of €20 or above there so 93 people have paid. That means I don't know who one is. I've pmed everyone who has joined the league but not paid so await responses. The person should be one of those people.

The prize fund is definitely €1860. There's a few people left to pay so I would be hopeful of getting the 2k.

1. Boots234
2. Stephenl15
3. Alchemist33
4. FinnHarpsBoy
5. TaytoCrisps
6. BikeRacer
7. OneColdHand
8. Spock
9. Hackers
10. FHFC
11. CSF
12. Jimmii
13. Ziegler1988
14. KevIRL
15. Maximo31
16. The incredible pudding
17. Cdev
18. Markx
19. internet_user
20. Dearg81
21. Menoscemo
22. Mrwillbeback
23. Remoteboy
24. Lassykk
25. Hardbreaks
26. Zarquon
27. beeduybe
28. MrMac84
29. FrClintPower
30. Wamble
31. Mike Ehrmantraut
32. Wardie101
33. Crumbs
34. Dice75
35. Swiper the Fox
36. Joeyjoejoe43
37. Tossy
38. Trimm Trabb
39. Patmac
40. Chesty08
41. Arnold Layne
42. Username_here
43. Scorpion Sting
44. Furryhead
45. Boba_Fett3099
46. Necronomican
47. Bazwin
48. grohlisagod
49. skyfall256
50. Dublinhead
51. Greedygoblin
52. Seklly
53. Stiffler123
54. Mcgettigan16
55. itsnotmyfault
56. Jaws2
57. Cluray
58. Dahat
59. Boofsteino
60. AKDK
61. Park1ife
62. Easy Rod
63. Nib
64. Timbel
65. silversun_pickup
66. handofdog
67. Hairy_Nipples_87
68. Fizman
69. Headerman
70. FPL48
71. Hype710
72. Earthhorse
73. james123
74. Ironman76
75. Lucas Hood
76. Iused2likebusts
77. OwlsZat
78. P.Walnuts
79. bkrangle
80. MrSkinny
81. Lefty2Guns
82. LightningBlue
83. Nightingale
84. Claw
85. Thunderdog
86. Cypher_Sounds
87. Christal Palace
88. FF Pay League - please pm me if this was you.
89. Irish Son
90. Podge018
91. Toalken
92. Adpro
93. Lucky Charms

Lemlin

FrClintPower wrote: »

Looks good, although 3rd prize should be €300 rather than €250 (15% of 2000 = 300).

Ninja edit done.

Swiper the fox

Christal Palace wrote: »

Fair Play Lemlin, great work

First post from our runaway leader, good luck with the rest of the season.


Is that payout list finalised. I honestly think that first place should be better than 30%, in saying that I hope people don't think that I feel I've got a better chance than anyone else, it just seems a bit small when third place gets half of that. This is going to be very hard to win, possibly top few hundred in the world

internet_user

Swiper the fox wrote: »

First post from our runaway leader, good luck with the rest of the season.


Is that payout list finalised. I honestly think that first place should be better than 30%, in saying that I hope people don't think that I feel I've got a better chance than anyone else, it just seems a bit small when third place gets half of that. This is going to be very hard to win, possibly top few hundred in the world

Just my two cents, but i think monthly prize of €20 is sufficent, at least then the cost of entering the tournement is returned.

stephenl15

internet_user wrote: »

Just my two cents, but i think monthly prize of €20 is sufficent, at least then the cost of entering the tournement is returned.

This

zarquon

A lot of differing opinions will ensue on the prize breakdown. I think it's probably best to post up a few options and see which one gets the most thanks as the generally preffered option.

I'm happy enough with Lemlin's suggestion as it's close to my own.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Do we really want too create MORE work for lemlin? Leave the prize pool as is! Even if it goes too a vote we still won't please everyone and lemlin is working off a draft of last years prizes which was obviously a huge success!

FHFC

zarquon wrote: »

A lot of differing opinions will ensue on the prize breakdown. I think it's probably best to post up a few options and see which one gets the most thanks as the generally preffered option.

I'm happy enough with Lemlin's suggestion as it's close to my own.

Good suggestion.

I thought Lemlins suggestion was ok but take the points about 2nd and 3rd being high and 1st a bit low. Monthly 40 ok, 30 min. Paying top 5 about right.

menoscemo

internet_user wrote: »

Just my two cents, but i think monthly prize of €20 is sufficent, at least then the cost of entering the tournement is returned.

It was me that suggested the one Lemlin posted (I think), but I wouldn't be against this either.
So would you put the extra €200 on the top prize or spread it?

internet_user

menoscemo wrote: »

It was me that suggested the one Lemlin posted (I think), but I wouldn't be against this either.
So would you put the extra €200 on the top prize or spread it?

I think first place should get a good chunk of it (lets say 80) and 30 extra maybe for the next 4?

Swiper the fox

menoscemo wrote: »

It was me that suggested the one Lemlin posted (I think), but I wouldn't be against this either.
So would you put the extra €200 on the top prize or spread it?

I would take the 200 saved from the monthly prize (20e instead of 40) and put it into the winners prize (800), the rest seems fine.

Alternatively a 50e quarterly prize might work as well.

Lemlin

94 entrants confirmed and identified. Prize fund of €1880 confirmed. I still think we'll get to the 2k as I've seven people who reckon they will be paying in the next week.

1. Boots234
2. Stephenl15
3. Alchemist33
4. FinnHarpsBoy
5. TaytoCrisps
6. BikeRacer
7. OneColdHand
8. Spock
9. Hackers
10. FHFC
11. CSF
12. Jimmii
13. Ziegler1988
14. KevIRL
15. Maximo31
16. The incredible pudding
17. Cdev
18. Markx
19. internet_user
20. Dearg81
21. Menoscemo
22. Mrwillbeback
23. Remoteboy
24. Lassykk
25. Hardbreaks
26. Zarquon
27. beeduybe
28. MrMac84
29. FrClintPower
30. Wamble
31. Mike Ehrmantraut
32. Wardie101
33. Crumbs
34. Dice75
35. Swiper the Fox
36. Joeyjoejoe43
37. Tossy
38. Trimm Trabb
39. Patmac
40. Chesty08
41. Arnold Layne
42. Username_here
43. Scorpion Sting
44. Furryhead
45. Boba_Fett3099
46. Necronomican
47. Bazwin
48. grohlisagod
49. skyfall256
50. Dublinhead
51. Greedygoblin
52. Seklly
53. Stiffler123
54. Mcgettigan16
55. itsnotmyfault
56. Jaws2
57. Cluray
58. Dahat
59. Boofsteino
60. AKDK
61. Park1ife
62. Easy Rod
63. Nib
64. Timbel
65. silversun_pickup
66. handofdog
67. Hairy_Nipples_87
68. Fizman
69. Headerman
70. FPL48
71. Hype710
72. Earthhorse
73. james123
74. Ironman76
75. Lucas Hood
76. Iused2likebusts
77. OwlsZat
78. P.Walnuts
79. bkrangle
80. MrSkinny
81. Lefty2Guns
82. LightningBlue
83. Nightingale
84. Claw
85. Thunderdog
86. Cypher_Sounds
87. Christal Palace
88. muletide
89. Irish Son
90. Podge018
91. Toalken
92. Adpro
93. Lucky Charms
94. Thewools

Lemlin

€2000 Total.

My own feeling is that someone winning a monthly prize should at least get a profit on what they put in. It's not much of an incentive to just win back your entry amount. €30 I'd see as the minimum monthly amount. €10 profit for someone for a couple of pints!

10 x €30 Monthly Prizes = €300

Leaves €1700 (exact figure still to be confirmed) for other prizes.

The €1700 could then be split:

First - 45% - €765
Second - 25% - €425
Third - 15% - €255
4th - 10% - €170
5th - 5% - €85

If the total isn't €2000, I can just still keep to the percentages above. I know the figures are odd but the percentages is a nice way of splitting it out and allows me to do same whatever figure we have when everyone has paid.

jimmii

Money back for winning a month I think is fine its not like it really matters who wins in a month all about the season and if you win a month it mean you're freerolling the year which is a nice spot to be in.

Here's a couple of options to throw in to the mix:

1) Top Heavy

10 x €20 for the month
1st €850
2nd €550
3rd €200
4th €150
5th €50

2) Flat
10 x €20 for the month
1st €600
2nd €450
3rd €350
4th €250
5th €150
(or 5th €100 & 6th €50)

patmac

Lemlin wrote: »

€2000 Total.

My own feeling is that someone winning a monthly prize should at least get a profit on what they put in. It's not much of an incentive to just win back your entry amount. €30 I'd see as the minimum monthly amount. €10 profit for someone for a couple of pints!

10 x €30 Monthly Prizes = €300

Leaves €1700 (exact figure still to be confirmed) for other prizes.

The €1700 could then be split:

First - 45% - €765
Second - 25% - €425
Third - 15% - €255
4th - 10% - €170
5th - 5% - €85

If the total isn't €2000, I can just still keep to the percentages above. I know the figures are odd but the percentages is a nice way of splitting it out and allows me to do same whatever figure we have when everyone has paid.

What about a cup competition? It could give some people who might be struggling a chance of a few bob. With the winner getting €80 and runner up €40.
The prizes could be as follows
First - €700
Second - €400
Third - €250
4th - €150
5th - €75.
94 teams, teams 1-60 play 1st round(giving the minnows a bye), leaving 64 for round 2, 32 for round 3 etc., starting 7 weeks from the end of season. Or maybe run a separate competition?

Lemlin

patmac wrote: »

What about a cup competition? It could give some people who might be struggling a chance of a few bob. With the winner getting €80 and runner up €40.
The prizes could be as follows
First - €700
Second - €400
Third - €250
4th - €150
5th - €75.
94 teams, teams 1-60 play 1st round(giving the minnows a bye), leaving 64 for round 2, 32 for round 3 etc., starting 7 weeks from the end of season. Or maybe run a separate competition?

People paid to enter a league. We can run a separate cup competition if needs be.

Swiper the fox

Lemlin wrote: »

€2000 Total.

My own feeling is that someone winning a monthly prize should at least get a profit on what they put in. It's not much of an incentive to just win back your entry amount. €30 I'd see as the minimum monthly amount. €10 profit for someone for a couple of pints!

10 x €30 Monthly Prizes = €300

Leaves €1700 (exact figure still to be confirmed) for other prizes.

The €1700 could then be split:

First - 45% - €765
Second - 25% - €425
Third - 15% - €255
4th - 10% - €170
5th - 5% - €85

If the total isn't €2000, I can just still keep to the percentages above. I know the figures are odd but the percentages is a nice way of splitting it out and allows me to do same whatever figure we have when everyone has paid.

I like that, the only thing I would say is that it should be a round figure for the winner, 800 in this case, that is the most important figure people will want to know about when discussing this league or encouraging people to join next year.

jimmii

patmac wrote: »

What about a cup competition? It could give some people who might be struggling a chance of a few bob. With the winner getting €80 and runner up €40.
The prizes could be as follows
First - €700
Second - €400
Third - €250
4th - €150
5th - €75.
94 teams, teams 1-60 play 1st round(giving the minnows a bye), leaving 64 for round 2, 32 for round 3 etc., starting 7 weeks from the end of season. Or maybe run a separate competition?

People don't seem to want to enter cups like that as much I doubt there would be anywhere near €2k in the pot if it was a cup. There will be plenty of other cups running during the season normally is.

CSF

Lemlin wrote: »

€2000 Total.

My own feeling is that someone winning a monthly prize should at least get a profit on what they put in. It's not much of an incentive to just win back your entry amount. €30 I'd see as the minimum monthly amount. €10 profit for someone for a couple of pints!

10 x €30 Monthly Prizes = €300

Leaves €1700 (exact figure still to be confirmed) for other prizes.

The €1700 could then be split:

First - 45% - €765
Second - 25% - €425
Third - 15% - €255
4th - 10% - €170
5th - 5% - €85

If the total isn't €2000, I can just still keep to the percentages above. I know the figures are odd but the percentages is a nice way of splitting it out and allows me to do same whatever figure we have when everyone has paid.

That split looks great. I'd be of the opinion though that entry should be closed now though. I think that if people have had a month to pay and haven't, they're not going to unless they've had a good start, which gives them an unfair advantage. They've declared an interest already, which is grand, but most probably won't follow up on it if they start the season with two 20 point scores.

You're absolutely the boss though, and doing a great job. Just giving my two cents on one small aspect of it.

zarquon

CSF wrote: »

That split looks great. I'd be of the opinion though that entry should be closed now though. I think that if people have had a month to pay and haven't, they're not going to unless they've had a good start, which gives them an unfair advantage. They've declared an interest already, which is grand, but most probably won't follow up on it if they start the season with two 20 point scores.

You're absolutely the boss though, and doing a great job. Just giving my two cents on one small aspect of it.

Expression of entry was supposed to be closed yesterday. Anyone that transferred payment yesterday will be paid by the deadline tomorrow and should be in the game.

Im sure there are people waiting to see how they get on for gw2 before taking the plunge and this should not be allowed

hufpc8w3adnk65

I for one think the monthly €40 double your money prize is great! You may finish bottom of the league but with a €40 prize won you've covered this years entrance and next year and that'll keep lads coming back

CSF

zarquon wrote: »

Expression of entry was supposed to be closed yesterday. Anyone that transferred payment yesterday will be paid by the deadline tomorrow and should be in the game.

Im sure there are people waiting to see how they get on for gw2 before taking the plunge and this should not be allowed

Yeah, that's probably my thoughts expressed even better than I did myself.

jimmii

zarquon wrote: »

Expression of entry was supposed to be closed yesterday. Anyone that transferred payment yesterday will be paid by the deadline tomorrow and should be in the game.

Im sure there are people waiting to see how they get on for gw2 before taking the plunge and this should not be allowed

Agreed and if its allowed this year then it will be worse next year why would anyone enter before the start if they can wait and see how the first two weeks go first.

stephenl15

My opinion would be money back for monthly winners. The bulk of the prize fund should go to the people who have had the best season and finished top 5 imo.

Chesty08

All paid leagues that I have entered have a cut off point of payment by tomorrow 6pm, the start of GW2.

And that would be leagues not taken as seriously as this league is by it's entrants.

Lemlin

zarquon wrote: »

Expression of entry was supposed to be closed yesterday. Anyone that transferred payment yesterday will be paid by the deadline tomorrow and should be in the game.

Im sure there are people waiting to see how they get on for gw2 before taking the plunge and this should not be allowed

To be honest, these posters are people from here who post regularly. All have given valid reasons for not making payment on time e.g. out of the country, family issues etc.

Even if people wait until after GW2, these people aren't valid for the August monthly prize and I, for one, wouldn't be entering a 38 GW league because I'd done well in 2 weeks of it. There's still 36 weeks left.

I can cut it off tomorrow though if its what people want. I was just hoping to get to the elusive 2k prize fund.

jimmii

I guess if they are FSA regs its ok to give them a little more time.