"It's hard to take women seriously when they dress sexy at work"

Kermit.de.frog

http://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/its-hard-to-take-women-seriously-when-they-dress-sexy-at-work-says-forecaster-evelyn-cusack-31328816.html

TV weather presenter Evelyn Cusack says you can't take women seriously who dress sexy for work.

"I'm a bit like Angela Merkel, nobody comments on her clothes, she just has 40 different jackets in different colours," she said.

Seriously!? There may be a reason to male eyes why Angela Merkel might not be wearing sexy clothes I would have thought? But each to there own.

Do you agree with her?

jimgoose

I take Jean Byrne completely seriously. Oh Hell yeah. :cool:

steddyeddy

A scientist who landed a rocket on a comet was criticised for his dress sense by feminists so to complain about this would be a huge double standard.

Sheep Lover

What's she talking about. I am undressing Ms.Merkel with my eyes everytime her little Bratwurst head pops on tv.

wp_rathead

What a Loada sh!te

lertsnim

Where is the outrage that was evident when that scientist man said the same thing last week?

smash

It's good to stay on top of foreign affairs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1WXq54SNNU

Buzz Meeks

There's a controversial front moving in from the atlantic.

Orange Alert.

Cold War Kid

lertsnim wrote: »

Where is the outrage that was evident when that scientist man said the same thing last week?

Being a bit generous there to compare the Indo and Evelyn Cusack with a Nobel Prize winning scientist.

tastyt

It's true though....

shalalala

You cannot be a feminist then dictate what clothes a woman wears to wear to be taken seriously makes zero sense. And while I do agree that there is a line, people should be judged on their accomplishments, not how they look.

Now obviously, that is an idealistic view, everybody judges eachother. But would she not take a man in an ill fitting suit seriously in work in the same way as a woman in something she seems sexy?

Jaysus.

I can see an apology on the horizon.

suicide_circus

When I wore my mankini on casual friday my boss took it very seriously

kneemos

If I went in dressed in tight shorts and figure hugging low cut T shirt would you take me seriously?

osarusan

The outspoken presenter said that she believes...

She does the weather forecast. How can she be 'outspoken'?

seamus

I wouldn't say it's true at all. Sexy is more about how the individual conducts themselves than about what they wear.

The exact same outfit that looks sexy on one person may be vomit-inducing on another. Go down to the IFSC some day; women everywhere walking around in suit skirts (or pants), and many of them sexy as hell.

Wearing distracting clothing can undermine anyone at work, male or female.

Cold War Kid

Ah she's going on about leather squeaking - 'tis a jibe at Jean all right.

Potatoeman

It's usually other women that judge women on what they wear.

kneemos

The ball busters don't dress sexily,and they're taken very seriously.

Neyite

Miaow!

hatrickpatrick

Jaysus, why has there been such a surge in moronic, bigoted comments like these lately?

On the other hand, if Jean Byrne wants to present the weather forecast in a bikini just as a f*ck you to Cusack, I for one would wholeheartedly support such an endeavour. Purely for political reasons, of course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZTkVEObQwY

Vandango

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Evelyn Cusack says you can't take women seriously who dress sexy for work.

Yes Evelyn, but if you were blessed with beauty would you still be saying that? I'm guessing not.

NachoBusiness

Either gender dressing overly and inappropriately provocative for their job undermines their professionalism and competence.

Buzz Meeks

I actually think that Evelyn Cusack and Jean Byrne are the same person.

Or close enough that it doesn't matter anyway.

Boom_Bap

Have you seen yer wan on Mexican TV that does the weather. AAWWOOOOOOOOOGGAAAA

There is also a bit of an uprising from female presenters in South America for the football tournament where they are taking off layers as they report. But I suppose that should go in the UNdressing at work thread.

But, in my opinion, people should wear what they are comfortable in, as long as they are getting the job done, you should be able to wear what you want.
There also considerations for your colleagues on how comfortable they should be with what you are wearing, and dependant on role, there may be a more corporate image required.

Menas

Ah here, are we to be outraged by the uttering of a weather presenter now? I cant keep up.

catallus

Siobhan Ryan could come to work dressed in a black plastic bag and she'd still be gorgeous

I would wear pretty figure hugging dresses to work, often accompanied by high heels. I get taken pretty seriously when I need to be.

There's a woman though, a beautiful woman I might add, with the most divine figure. She wears perfectly normal work clothes, it's just that she looks fcuking hot in them - she is regularly the subject of "that's not work appropriate" comments from a small handful of other women and one man here behind her back. I just don't get it. She doesn't have her boobs out, she doesn't have her arse hanging out - she just has an amazing figure. I honestly think it has to be jealousy because there's no other logical explanation.

Alzo90

Boom_Bap wrote: »

But, in my opinion, people should wear what they are comfortable in, as long as they are getting the job done, you should be able to wear what you want.
There also considerations for your colleagues on how comfortable they should be with what you are wearing, and dependant on role, there may be a more corporate image required.

Bang on. In fact I would have alot of respect for someone that dresses in that provocative way because we all know the problems that would happen in the workplace ie. harrassment, social ostracisation

Nodin

Deleted User wrote: »

I would wear pretty figure hugging dresses to work, often accompanied by high heels. I get taken pretty seriously when I need to be.

There's a woman though, a beautiful woman I might add, with the most divine figure. She wears perfectly normal work clothes, it's just that she looks fcuking hot in them - she is regularly the subject of "that's not work appropriate" comments from a small handful of other women and one man here behind her back. I just don't get it. She doesn't have her boobs out, she doesn't have her arse hanging out - she just has an amazing figure. I honestly think it has to be jealousy because there's no other logical explanation.

I've witnessed this type of thing over the years. The cruellest towards women are usually other women, in my experience.

Grayson

Deleted User wrote: »

I would wear pretty figure hugging dresses to work, often accompanied by high heels. I get taken pretty seriously when I need to be.

There's a woman though, a beautiful woman I might add, with the most divine figure. She wears perfectly normal work clothes, it's just that she looks fcuking hot in them - she is regularly the subject of "that's not work appropriate" comments from a small handful of other women and one man here behind her back. I just don't get it. She doesn't have her boobs out, she doesn't have her arse hanging out - she just has an amazing figure. I honestly think it has to be jealousy because there's no other logical explanation.

There was one supervisor where I worked like that. Great figure and people said she dressed inappropriately.

Then one day she wore sheer leggings instead of trousers. Not even a long top to cover bits. And she wore a lacy thong underneath.

I think that's the point she crossed the line.

One eyed Jack

I can't take people seriously when they can't do their jobs properly -


Relying on the weather forecast? Evelyn Cusack keeps us in suspense


I also can't take people seriously when they take what looks to me are backhanded, passive aggressive, snidey pot-shots at their co-workers in the national media.

Evelyn is a meteorologist, a woman in science, and comments like this don't help her feminist credentials, let alone coming out with nonsense like this -

The outspoken presenter said that she believes "every woman should be a feminist and every man should be too".

"Because all feminism is, is equal rights," Evelyn added.

"If I would follow anything it would be humanist, it's that all human beings are equal."

If I didn't know better, I'd say she was trolling. Has to be, surely! :rolleyes:

Generic Dreadhead

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

TV weather presenter Evelyn Cusack says you can't take women seriously who dress sexy for work.

Ah, well ok then

NachoBusiness

Deleted User wrote: »

I would wear pretty figure hugging dresses to work, often accompanied by high heels. I get taken pretty seriously when I need to be.

Anyone that thinks dressing like that is inappropriate or provocative has issues though.

There's a woman though, a beautiful woman I might add, with the most divine figure. She wears perfectly normal work clothes, it's just that she looks fcuking hot in them - she is regularly the subject of "that's not work appropriate" comments from a small handful of other women and one man here behind her back. I just don't get it. She doesn't have her boobs out, she doesn't have her arse hanging out - she just has an amazing figure. I honestly think it has to be jealousy because there's no other logical explanation.

Reminds me of the case of Debrahlee Lorenzana:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utxYqb-s1IE

KomradeBishop

Meh - I can't take people seriously, when they get overly judgemental over trivial things; which unfortunately, is a rather exceptionally high percentage of people.

Tony EH

lertsnim wrote: »

Where is the outrage that was evident when that scientist man said the same thing last week?

Ahem...

I know a woman who has several inches of cleavage on view all the time and even I find myself distracted by it. That's my problem though, not hers. That's the issue with the complainers, they make their problem someone elses.

Like all things, there's a line between appropriate and inappropriate and everybody knows that a priest in a thong is dressed inappropriately, it's all the areas in between that are a judgement call and since that line is highly subjective it's not something that a consensus can ever be reached on.

Potatoeman

Grayson wrote: »

There was one supervisor where I worked like that. Great figure and people said she dressed inappropriately.

Then one day she wore sheer leggings instead of trousers. Not even a long top to cover bits. And she wore a lacy thong underneath.

I think that's the point she crossed the line.

The visible pantie line.

Maximus Alexander

Deleted User wrote: »

There's a woman though, a beautiful woman I might add, with the most divine figure. She wears perfectly normal work clothes, it's just that she looks fcuking hot in them - she is regularly the subject of "that's not work appropriate" comments from a small handful of other women and one man here behind her back.

Pics or it didn't happen. :pac:

blue note

Thank God a man didn't say this or there would be a resignation to follow. At the very minimum a grovelling apology.

But she has a point, she's just being too specific. If you want to be taken seriously wear appropriate clothing. And appropriate clothing is different for men and women and it depends on where you work. Sometimes sexy clothing is inappropriate. Like for undertakers.

swimming in a sea

It would hurt my work productivity if I had to look at her everyday, I'd end up going on sick leave.

I don't even think Jean does dress sexily, if those pointed remarks are aimed at her. I think she just is sort of sexy and likes fashion, which is hardly unprofessional.

melissak

Ha ha. How you doing seriously or you're fired seriously?

suicide_circus wrote: »

When I wore my mankini on casual friday my boss took it very seriously

harry Bailey esq

What about dominatrix prostitutes?Are they taken seriously?If not,they're doing it wrong.

Ruu

They should wear clothing based on the forecast. It would make it interesting, the sight of the yellow rain jacket and wellies might get boring though.

Ruu

Ruu wrote: »

They should wear clothing based on the forecast. It would make it interesting, the sight of the yellow rain jacket and wellies might get boring though.

Theyd have to have every kind of clothing just for one day's forecast.

darkpagandeath

What a shock a woman slagging off women....

darkpagandeath

darkpagandeath wrote: »

What a shock a woman slagging off women....

The irony of your post is hilarious.

Tony EH

Candie wrote: »

I don't even think Jean does dress sexily, if those pointed remarks are aimed at her. I think she just is sort of sexy and likes fashion, which is hardly unprofessional.

Who said the remarks are about Jean Byrne?

Tony EH

Tony EH wrote: »

Who said the remarks are about Jean Byrne?

No one, I'm surmising from what was said. It's just an impression I and a few others have, but we might be wrong and that's why I said 'if' those remarks are aimed at her.

Leather squeaking was a bit of a clue.

Bonzo Delaney

I wonder did Evelen mean slutty instead of sexy. I mean personally a lady in a well fitted suit not pervy pencil skirt and a confident happy attitude is far mor sexy that someone who tries too hard with it all on show. I suppose it's relative to your definition of sexy.