Liveline Thread 17/06/2015 to date

snubbleste

If these adults were from Inishowen, I doubt there'd be as much talk about it, or half-mast flags

jetfiremuck

Is Duffy outside Clearys .?

Dan Jaman

Oh, bollocks. This is just raking over the coals of another man's grief to ride on the coat tails of others' current losses.
Feck this - it's ghoulish beyond imagination.
See yaz tomorrow.

my friend

ThisRegard wrote: »

That's a bit crass.

There's some basis to their point

JONJO THE MISER

snubbleste wrote: »

If these adults were from Inishowen, I doubt there'd be as much talk about it, or half-mast flags

I disagree there, i think it would be the same coverage no matter where they are from.

ThisRegard

my friend wrote: »

There's some basis to their point

6 Irish people killed in such an accident, and people believe that the only reason it's getting so much coverage on ALL Irish media outlets, and in so much US ones, is because someone in RTE knew 1 or 2 of them ?

JM Skipton

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I disagree there, i think it would be the same coverage no matter where they are from.

Agree with you, Ireland is that small there is always going to people connected. A tragedy like this is huge in Ireland because of it's size of population

signostic

I really hope the families of the victims and those injured get the support that they require.

But I can`t help thinking about the student featured on liveline about a year ago who was seriously injured while cycling in collision with a car in the the US and the insurance co would not compensate because he was not wearing a cycle helmet.

somesoldiers

JM Skipton wrote: »

Agree with you, Ireland is that small there is always going to people connected. A tragedy like this is huge in Ireland because of it's size of population

yeah me too, whatever about only reporting drug deaths etc when they happen in D4, the scale of this is so big


how many young Irish people have died in the last 10 years abroad? My young lad is never leaving the country....not that he'd be any safer here mind, we have plenty of our own shoddy builders, murders etc

my friend

ThisRegard wrote: »

6 Irish people killed in such an accident, and people believe that the only reason it's getting so much coverage on ALL Irish media outlets, and in so much US ones, is because someone in RTE knew 1 or 2 of them ?

No I didn't say that but I will comment on the defensive narrative to which the incident is being presented

JM Skipton

That New York times article was very ill judged

bottlebrush

The balcony would have collapsed anyway, whether or not they had been drinking

my friend

my friend wrote: »

No I didn't say that but I will comment on the defensive narrative to which the incident is being presented

and here we go. Point proven

Sittingpretty

JM Skipton wrote: »

That New York times article was very ill judged

Hugely. Tastless and alluded to some level of culpability for the victims.

JONJO THE MISER

Really pissed of with the American coverage and dont get me started on some of the comments.
A lot of thick ignorant Americans in the media there.

Roger_007

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Really pissed of with the American coverage and dont get me started on some of the comments.
A lot of thick ignorant Americans in the media there.

There are thick ignorant people everywhere.......including Ireland.

my friend

Woman complains about hard truths in a newspaper being negative on a call to the most negative radio show in the country

2smiggy

this wan is a bit naive to think that a lot of the students going out to the US on J1 visas are well behaved. The article in the NY times was ill timed , but there is alot of truth to it

Roger_007

Why is this being covered again............??

JM Skipton

2smiggy wrote: »

this wan is a bit naive to think that a lot of the students going out to the US on J1 visas are well behaved. The article in the NY times was ill timed , but there is alot of truth to it

If the discussion was about J1 behaviour in general, not on the back of 6 dead and 7 injured

Atlantic Dawn

Roger_007 wrote: »

Why is this being covered again............??

They must have a Filofax with previous callers who had high quality tradegies that they recontact when the need arises.

my friend

JM Skipton wrote: »

If the discussion was about J1 behaviour in general, not on the back of 6 dead and 7 injured

But they're intrinsically linked

sjb25

Roger_007 wrote: »

Why is this being covered again............??

No bloody idea..... Sorry for him and all but like in fairness do we need everybody who has lost or had family members injured abroad need to call in

JM Skipton

my friend wrote: »

But they're intrinsically linked

By that you are implying one scenario occurred because of another, will have to disagree on this one My Friend

somesoldiers

what does this lady mean "his identity isn't here"?

Sittingpretty

somesoldiers wrote: »

what does this lady mean "his identity isn't here"?

I'd imagine they can't get a death certificate because he died abroad? Maybe, I'm not sure though....

snubbleste

These did not get the same coverage. They did not get the privilege of the Irish flag flying half-mast on government buildings.
What's so special about death by balcony?
January Athy crash: Four childhood friends dead
May Irish woman and daughter killed in car crash in Poland
June 2014 Five killed in weekend crashes in Westmeath and Monaghan

Roger_007

sjb25 wrote: »

No bloody idea..... Sorry for him and all but like in fairness do we need everybody who has lost or had family members injured abroad need to call in

Looks like that is what is going on. Can Liveline just not offer condolences to the family's of the bereaved and injured and just leave it at that. This is just ghoulish tabloid radio.
I'm out!

sjb25

Roger_007 wrote: »

Looks like that is what is going on. Can Liveline just not offer condolences to the family's of the bereaved and injured and just leave it at that. This is just ghoulish tabloid radio.
I'm out!

Yeah I'm out aswell enough of this for the day

2smiggy

this is fair rubbish today. think i'll turn on newstalk instead