S05 Ep10 - "Mother's Mercy" - HAVE NOT READ THE BOOKS

Al Capwned

**** THE LOT OF IT.


Then **** it some more.


And **** the watch.
And **** Stannis.
And **** GRRM.
And **** "a man".
And **** the writers.

Then **** it another bit.

yabadabado

Wow.Didn't think that would happen at the end.

Lyssa

I can't believe that ending..... Fcuk

AngryDiMaria

Al Capwned wrote: »

**** THE LOT OF IT.


Then **** it some more.

This

IT-Guy

"You know nuthin Jon Snow"

Tragically appropriate but I'm actually annoyed Lady Melisandre lives yet Jon Snow is dead. I hope Sir Davos sorts her out. What an episode

Al Capwned

Oh, and **** Cersei, and that cnut of a Mountain too.

I'm going to bed.

****.

jimmy180sx

Red Witch being at castle black a bit of a coincidence!!

_Redzer_

All the while...

PressRun

So, who is left to root for?

J. Marston

PressRun wrote: »

So, who is left to root for?

Bronn.

_Redzer_

J. Marston wrote: »

Bronn.

Fcuk us all if that's the case

PressRun

Perhaps this will be the red woman's chance to prove her worth - resurrect Jon.

Galwayguy35

It would be a pity if JS is dead, he was definitely one of the better characters.

Hopefully Theon and Sansa survive as well.

Hank Scorpio

Add a poll please!

I thought the Cersei scene was really well done. Sam's part was fine too.

The rest of the episode was meh imo, pacing and writing was not up to scratch of previous seasons. Felt like everything got rushed and left a lack of substance.

Stannis and his army just stood their like idiots instead of getting into formation while the Boltons charged. Would have been nice to see more of the battle, again it felt rushed.

The Arya story arc just gets stranger and stranger, I didn't enjoy it but I guess its subjective. The face masks seems like a cheap explanation. Theon and Sansa diving to what seemed like their deaths, I didn't see any water below them on first viewing. Dorne might be finally over, what a misguided mess that has been, I wonder if Jaime will turn the boat around, I wonder who poisoned her etc, shallow plots galore!

Khaleesi scene was dumb, wanders off on her own and gets surrounded seconds later while her dragon literally feet away takes a snooze. Finally Varys showing up to rescue Tyrion from his horrible dilemma and it's much needed. It's a welcome addition, the chemistry previously was flat. Jorah and the queens loverboy heading off on there own and leaving their army and everyone else behind. I wonder what could possibly happen! Again my point is nothing is left to the imagination, they even had to show a cunning smirk on loverboys face just to ram the point home.

Now I know why the young lad gave Jon Snow constant dirty looks. Just didn't feel clever, maybe if he'd done it once it might has been a inkling, but 4 times or whatever it was just rammed it home for me that something was going to happen to him in the last 5 mins.

I'd rate it a 5 solely cause of the Cersei scene. Can only base the episodes on previous ones, and this season hasn't been as smart, or have as much complicated "depth" of the previous ones. There's been a decrease in the cleverness of conversations aswell imo. The first 5 episodes or so had very little progression, and tonight's felt extremely rushed, poor pacing.

Hoping season 6 picks it up again

BMMachine

Melisandre is totally going to resurrect him. It couldnt be more obvious

Crann na Beatha

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PressRun

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

I thought the Cersei scene was really well done.

I thought that went on a bit too long, tbh. I felt like more time should have been spent with other plots.

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

The Arya story arc just gets stranger and stranger, I didn't enjoy it but I guess its subjective. The face masks seems like a cheap explanation.

I'm struggling to understand how Arya will remain an interesting character if she has her identity stripped from her. Being a Stark out for revenge is what makes her compelling. Take that away, and what becomes of her?

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Theon and Sansa diving to what seemed like their deaths, I didn't see any water below them on first viewing.

I think they jumped into the snow? Utterly bizarre turn in their story anyway. And I wasn't really impressed by the fact that Theon just suddenly snaps out of his trance and submissive state to Ramsey in order to save Sansa. She should have gotten herself out of that situation without relying on him. She's sorely in need of serious character development that doesn't involve some bloke.


With Daenerys, were those people planning on killing her or were they like celebrating her or something? I couldn't tell. Were they Dothraki?

Hank Scorpio

PressRun wrote: »

I think they jumped into the snow? Utterly bizarre turn in their story anyway. And I wasn't really impressed by the fact that Theon just suddenly snaps out of his trance and submissive state to Ramsey in order to save Sansa. She should have gotten herself out of that situation without relying on him. She's sorely in need of serious character development that doesn't involve some bloke.


With Daenerys, were those people planning on killing her or were they like celebrating her or something? I couldn't tell.

Yeah it was bizarre. Also very convenient how all ran into each other around a corner during a big battle. Theon has shown twice previously when Sansa got raped and when she asked him to light the candle where his loyalties are, I don't see what changed

I think those were Daenery's enemies, only basing that on her usual one dimensional face expression. Nothing really felt clear to me that episode, like Stannis's apparent death, it cut right to another scene just as Brienne swung her sword. I was thinking maybe the God of Light or whatever would protect him

PressRun

Yeah, it seems slightly unrealistic that Theon would just snap out of it. We've been led to believe that he has been so thoroughly broken by Ramsey that he'll even stand there and watch her be raped, but a woman pointing an arrow at her is the last straw for him? I mean, he already had a chance to save her with the candle and didn't. It'd be more satisfying (and merciful to everyone involved) if Sansa had thrown him over the railing more than anything, tbh.

Also, is Stannis definitely dead? I felt like something was going to happen to Brienne while she was standing there making that speech, and it seemed like he was looking over her shoulder the whole time. She also seemed quite hesitant to kill him once he told her to do her duty. He probably is, and tbh, I feel like his story has run its course and he got what he deserved. Seemed weirdly ambiguous for GoT though.

leonil7

ah finish. one year of waiting.. again.
hope nobody dies (author and the actors) and keep the show going.

Liam O

As for the Drogon/Charizard comparison, I thought I was really smart for thinking of that and it was posted above

leonil7

Kirby

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Stannis and his army just stood their like idiots instead of getting into formation while the Boltons charged. Would have been nice to see more of the battle, again it felt rushed.

Watch it again. Half of them form up while the other half actually flees during the charge. Besides, they were surrounded by cavalry. It's game over at that point.

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Theon and Sansa diving to what seemed like their deaths, I didn't see any water below them on first viewing.

Powdered snow. If its deep enough, its like falling onto a net.

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

I wonder who poisoned her

Er....werent you watching? Oberyn girl poisoned her. She coated her lips with it, kissed her, and then took the antidote. Frankly it was right on the nose. Dunno how you missed it.

J. Marston

Bad feeling Ghost is going to be joining Grey Wind and Lady in doggie heaven .

Hank Scorpio

Kirby wrote: »

Er....werent you watching? Oberyn girl poisoned her. She coated her lips with it, kissed her, and then took the antidote. Frankly it was right on the nose. Dunno how you missed it.

Ya I was being Sarcastic. I was trying to compare it to a scene like when Joffrey died and how thought invoking it was to figure out who did it.

It was such a bad scene, they went and did it even though their Prince would be left alone on the boat

Kirby

This is totally a Harry potter situation. He "dies" but doesnt really die. Magic ex machina Melisandre will resurrect him.

PressRun

Kirby wrote: »

Watch it again. Half of them form up while the other half actually flees during the charge. Besides, they were surrounded by cavalry. It's game over at that point.

Were all those horsemen that suddenly showed up on behalf of the Boltons deserters from Stannis' army? I was a little confused as to where they all came from.

I also can't quite believe that characters like Oberyn, Tywin, Ned, Rob and Jon (possibly) are all dead, but the fcuking Mountain is miraculously brought back from the brink. Characters who have actually made the show compelling are being phased out while totally uninteresting ones are being kept on (are we really going to have to sit through another season of Theon?).

PressRun

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Ya I was being Sarcastic. I was trying to compare it to a scene like when Joffrey died and how thought invoking it was to figure out who did it.

It was such a bad scene, they went and did it even though their Prince would be left alone on the boat

I was wondering about the logic behind their choice too. I assume they've done it without Doran's knowledge, but as soon as Cersei's maester does an autopsy on Myrcella, they're going to know exactly what happened and that will surely spell the end of Tristane and start a possible war with Dorne? Which seems to be the exact opposite of what Doran wanted.

Techniques07

For me this episode seemed very rushed and just not like the usual GOT episodes. It was like, this is happening, now that's happening, now this over here! For me it didn't sit right.

I also disliked the placing cersei's head on someone elses body for the walk of shame. I'd rather they had shown close ups and then far enough away with the double that you couldn't see the face rather than placing the actors head on another body like in captain america, I've never seen it done well. It kept taking me out of the moment.

As for the end of the episode, I think al capwned summed that up in the first post. Surely he'll be brought back to life...

leonil7

hope you all did not miss the episode's panaroma shot of stannis army dead on the field.



conclusion: more zombies for the whitys, maybe even make stannis dream come true - a zombie king.

Nody

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Essien

I'd often say certain things are cringeworthy, but I'd never actually cringe at the TV. That is until the bit where Bronn was leaving and yer one said something like "you need a good girl but a bad pussy"......That really was a little cherry of awfulness atop a big cake of sh1te.

A lot of those scenes could have waited until next season. There was no real need for any of the Mereen stuff.

I thought the Cersei scene was about the only one that lived up to the standard of GoT, possibly Arya's killing scene too, the rest felt very "TV showish", i.e. The candle BS, Brienne finding Stannis, the lads bitching to each other for 10 minutes in Mereen.

I suppose now that Jon has died he'll be free to leave the nights watch once he's brought back to life by mellisandra.

paulmclaughlin

Mr Freeze

Al Capwned wrote: »

And **** GRRM.

Ah now....I wouldn't be blaming him for the tripe that this season was. The show writers seems to have gone to f**k this year.
I've not seen ep 10 yet. Can't be worse than ep 9 surely.

\skiddadles from thread...

empacher

Jon snow to be reserucited , take control of the wildlings. Find Theon and Sansa. Obliterate the bolton'sand rule the north. Give Ramsey to that giant wildling as a sex slave. Justice is served.

galljga1

Love Cresei's new hairdo.

Links234

Wow... just... :eek:

Brendan Filone

I'm legitimately pissed right now. There is nothing in Westeros left worth saving. At this point I'm rooting for the White Walkers to rain down icy annihilation.

Galwayguy35

In an interview the guy who plays JS says he was told the character is dead and won't be back.

LFC CONNAUGHTON

Galwayguy35 wrote:

In an interview the guy who plays JS says he was told the character is dead and won't be back.

He knows nothing.

chasmcb

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

In an interview the guy who plays JS says he was told the character is dead and won't be back.

FFS, this series is downright perverse the way it bumps off nearly every character you get invested in, not even the Sopranos whacked so many major players -or at least the Sopranos kept them around longer before whacking them. I wonder now that the anti-Wildling faction have murdered Jon Snow will they take over the Watch and attack the wildlings that were let in past the wall?

LFC CONNAUGHTON

The Stannis scene was very oddly done, with Brianne doubting herself and cutting away before he actually is killed, I feel as if he may still be alive.

Galwayguy35

LFC CONNAUGHTON wrote: »

He knows nothing.

How do you work that one out, the directors told him he won't be back, filming on the next series isn't too far away so one would imagine he would kinda need to know if he was coming back or not.

BTW I hope I'm wrong and he isn't dead.

ricero

I have to admit i let out a cheer when ramseys bitch was killed by Theon

shrewdness

After that ending, fcuk this show, I'm out.






(for a year anyway)

Shane St.

**** THAT!

wp_rathead

Good to see the Dothraki back, gonna watch season 1 and see if I recognise any of them- cuase if they from same tribe as Karl Drogo she could be in sh!t
Great that Vary's is back with Tyrion.

Thought the Cersei scene was well done- disagree with those saying was too long- needed to be to show the torment she went through on the way to the Castle
The Mountain was known was "Lannister's Wild Dog"- now he is a trained dog, arguably making him more dangerous

Rather touching scene with Jamie and her daughter - I'm guessing she is dead though as she had no antidote
But is Trystan on the boat with Jamie? Surely he will be help captive now- rather stupid plan

Stannis really had a **** two days:
Day 1: Wake up and Have Half of Horses and Food Supply burnt - Burn Daughter Alive
Day 2: Wake up and snow melting but Half of Army Gone with All Horses, Wife Hung Herself, Red Witch abandons you, Army Slaughtered, Killed by Brienne

Guessing Sansa and Theon will run into Pod and Brienne

Have feeling Sam, Gilly and The Baby That Has Been A Baby For About 3 Seasons And Refuses To Grow is gonna have story arc in Season 6 in Old Town- which I'm not looking forward too.

Pure shneaaaaaaaaky how Red Witch kinda implied that Shireen was killed in the battle, rather than say she was burnt alive
I'm guessing she gonna try resurrect Jon like Brotherhood Without Banners did to One Eyed Chap- but she never did it before. Hoping Jon not gone though

Great to see Ayra kill that fncker but she is what, blind now?

Someone mentioned about all of Stannis' dead army being resurrected by the Whites, but it doesn't work this way, does it? I mean, I always thought that they had to be killed by the Whites army to be brought back as such.

The Cersei scene was fantastically well done- someone said it was too long, but I felt it was the perfect length. It was cringey, painful, and you were supposed to feel everything she felt.

Totally surprised by their "killing" off Jon Snow, but tbh, I really hope they don't bring him back. He's fantastic, but it would undermine the whole effect of his being killed.

ShaneU

Why exactly is he a traitor? Because he let the wildlings pass the wall?

Also an entire season and not one bit of Brann and Rickon