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what constitutes a social justice warrior?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,559 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Cuban Pete wrote: »
    Well, see, here's the problem: is social ostracising necessarily a bad thing? Do anyone have a right to force people to interact with them?

    Forget about the politics of the people doing it for a moment, because this is actually quite an interesting point.

    What they were referring to was more than social ostracisation by "SJWs". That's passive by a small, unrepresentative group. It wouldn't even get noticed by the target.

    I think what's objectionable is the organised aggressive targeting by a group of a prominent individual for their views or actions no matter how innocent or minor. A witch-hunt, where the mob burn someone in effigy to drive out the evil spirits in a ritual that goes back to the dumbest eras of human history. Its now given a facelift thanks to instant communication.

    Its basically bullying as demonstrated by that ludicrous #shirtgate nonsense where a man was vilified, demonised and driven into a breakdown by narcissistic morons on the internet for the high crime of wearing an edgy shirt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭MathDebater


    I thought these people only stayed in the confines of universities and social media? 

    Primarily they do yeah. These lads organised online as they knew there would be little opposition to them. If a bit of muscle was in attendance they would have ran laps.
    His views were a little more extreme than just your moderate right-wing views so it's hardly surprising he got stick for it, is it?

    Nothing extreme about wanting proper border controls in place.
    It's kind of obvious you will be shunned (ignored) from one group for having opposing views on something so controversial and personal as same sex marriage.

    I think it's sad that people would shun someone just for airing their views.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Got a problem with the glorious white man ?

    Of course not, some of my best friends are white men.


  • Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭MathDebater


    Of course not, some of my best friends are white men.

    Live in Europe. Bitch about the very people that built the continent.

    Thus is the SJW.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Bitch about the very people that built the continent.

    And destroyed it a few times too. White pride.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    Nothing extreme about wanting proper border controls in place.

    Well we'll save the fun debate for another time - can't wait!


    I think it's sad that people would shun someone just for airing their views.

    Sad it has to come to that, alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Being a SJW is like being a Hipster, nobody ever calls themselves one and its really hard to properly define but everybody knows what and who they are


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Live in Europe. Bitch about the very people that built the continent.

    Thus is the SJW.

    Twas clearly a joke, but rage away at imagined boogymen if you like...


  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks



    Thats the spirit


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 138 ✭✭Patrick Wheelock


    Being a SJW is like being a Hipster, nobody ever calls themselves one and its really hard to properly define but everybody knows what and who they are

    and the people who deny the existence of SJWs and hipsters are generally SJWs or hipsters themselves.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    and the people who deny the existence of SJWs and hipsters are generally SJWs or hipsters themselves.


    Not really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭MathDebater


    And destroyed it a few times too. White pride.

    There are only around 300 White lions left in the world. They will probably go extinct in our lifetime. :(

    http://whitelions.org


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    There are only around 300 White lions left in the world. They will probably go extinct in our lifetime.

    Hopefully not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Being a SJW is like being a Hipster, nobody ever calls themselves one and its really hard to properly define but everybody knows what and who they are

    I'm not sure, I'm more confused now than I was at the start of the thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭anvilfour


    The Mangina stooges of Feminazis.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 519 ✭✭✭tipparetops


    see how a thread about sjw can quickly be derailed by sjw.
    you are against gay marriage = homophobic
    you want borders controlled= racist
    you question climate change= u must be questioned

    but back in the real world the right is rising across Europe.
    enjoy your period of left wing loony nonsense, its days are numbered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    see how a thread about sjw can quickly be derailed by sjw.
    you are against gay marriage = homophobic
    you want borders controlled= racist
    you question climate change= u must be questioned

    but back in the real world the right is rising across Europe.
    enjoy your period of left wing loony nonsense, its days are numbered.

    Ooooh how ominous!


    What would be the right-wing SJW equivalent for this guy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    anvilfour wrote: »
    The Mangina stooges of Feminazis.


    This thread is a goldmine for the Daily Mail headline writers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Is anybody interested in a list of prominent Irish SJWs that you might encounter on Twitter / Facebook?

    I can put one together if you like. People you need to AVOID.

    Sounds like a fascinating social resource.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    Ooooh how ominous!


    What would be the right-wing SJW equivalent for this guy?
    Obvious: Social Injustice Warrior.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 519 ✭✭✭tipparetops


    Ooooh how ominous!


    What would be the right-wing SJW equivalent for this guy?

    The opposite of SJW's are SMB's.
    Can you guess what SMB's stand for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    see how a thread about sjw can quickly be derailed by sjw.
    you are against gay marriage = homophobic
    you want borders controlled= racist
    you question climate change= u must be questioned

    but back in the real world the right is rising across Europe.
    enjoy your period of left wing loony nonsense, its days are numbered.


    Climate change has nothing to do with social justice in fairness, you keep bringing that up but it has nothing to do with anything, only to serve as an example of how silly some people can be regardless of whether they identify more with right wing or left wing ideologies.

    I would always have thought of 'social justice warriors' (and I admit to using the term pejoratively) as those people who point out problems they see in society, but expect everyone else to do something about them, the ranty types who are all talk and no action, who need to find something to be miserable about in order to give their lives meaning.

    They are incredibly fickle and have short attention spans, preferring to talk about people in terms of 'causes' and having 'safe spaces' for people according to their carefully labelled demographics, ignoring anyone who doesn't quite fit the profile of their 'cause du jour'.

    That's not social justice, and it sure as hell isn't respect for diversity, all the things they claim to fight for, they seem to have their own spin on it that nobody else 'could possibly understand', and that makes them feel like an individual, makes them feel like they are a morally and intellectually superior human being, when all they really are is quite a sad individual by society's standards, ironically the same society they wish would respect them, the same society they reject and want to change to suit them and their ideological perspective.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    The opposite of SJW's are SMB's.
    Can you guess what SMB's stand for.


    Sexy Male Botanists?

    Surly Mothers of Builders?

    Sausages Mushrooms and Brown Bread?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 519 ✭✭✭tipparetops


    Climate change has nothing to do with social justice in fairness, you keep bringing that up but it has nothing to do with anything, only to serve as an example of how silly some people can be regardless of whether they identify more with right wing or left wing ideologies.

    I would always have thought of 'social justice warriors' (and I admit to using the term pejoratively) as those people who point out problems they see in society, but expect everyone else to do something about them, the ranty types who are all talk and no action, who need to find something to be miserable about in order to give their lives meaning.

    They are incredibly fickle and have short attention spans, preferring to talk about people in terms of 'causes' and having 'safe spaces' for people according to their carefully labelled demographics, ignoring anyone who doesn't quite fit the profile of their 'cause du jour'.

    That's not social justice, and it sure as hell isn't respect for diversity, all the things they claim to fight for, they seem to have their own spin on it that nobody else 'could possibly understand', and that makes them feel like an individual, makes them feel like they are a morally and intellectually superior human being, when all they really are is quite a sad individual by society's standards, ironically the same society they wish would respect them, the same society they reject and want to change to suit them and their ideological perspective.

    climate change/global warming policies have a serious effect on social issues.
    To say it does not is simply a sign of ignorance, regardless if they are right/left leaning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    The opposite of SJW's are SMB's.
    Can you guess what SMB's stand for.

    Sad male bastards?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    climate change/global warming policies have a serious effect on social issues.
    To say it does not is simply a sign of ignorance, regardless if they are right/left leaning.

    Climate change has nothing to do with social justice in fairness.


    Wanna play spot the difference?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 519 ✭✭✭tipparetops


    Wanna play spot the difference?

    do you?
    climate change policies affect social issues, social justice warriors affect climate change policies.
    climate change is consider a social issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    The opposite of SJW's are SMB's.
    Can you guess what SMB's stand for.

    Serial Multiple Boardsaccounts?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    see how a thread about sjw can quickly be derailed by sjw.
    you are against gay marriage = homophobic
    you want borders controlled= racist
    you question climate change= u must be questioned

    but back in the real world the right is rising across Europe.
    enjoy your period of left wing loony nonsense, its days are numbered.

    it went so well the last time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 519 ✭✭✭tipparetops


    anncoates wrote: »
    Serial Multiple Boardsaccounts?

    I often wonder, how many people have actually made the posts on this thread.
    There could be 10 people, all with multiple accounts.
    Anncoates could be Tipparetops.


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