Free Travel Pass being Scanned on Bus Eireann

Fred Swanson

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infogiver

punisher5112 wrote: »

Infogiver I don't really understand your arguments as I know persons with ft passes that are young children with special needs and this is the new type with their personal photo on it.

Also they are companion so guardian can be with them as the guardian isn't the one that is in the special need category.
I also come across them in work quite regularly.

There is a HSE house on my road at home and the kids in it have no parents but carers full time and they have free travel come to think of it they have the old paper style but as in Dublin they do have the photo I.d which one should have so its one thing the people looking after got right.


Look if none believe this I suggest you go do a freedom of info request or contact the department.

This is not hearsay or made up but as I said before believe it or not up to you.

I don't need to contact the Department at all
The children you know may have free travel but it is not the Free Travel Scheme as discussed in this thread.
As I have provided links that clearly indicate that children do not qualify for free travel ( indeed a link from the Dept itself) and you have provided no proof whatsoever apart from your own opinion I don't see what grounds you have to continue the argument?

infogiver

AlekSmart wrote: »

If you go to the DSP site...

http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/204_Free-Travel.aspx

Scroll down to "How to Apply" and locate the "Completing a Free Travel Application Form (pdf)" which will bring you to the form itself,therin you will find the relevant references to the Under 16 parental signature requirement,it specifically mentions Blind persons,but this has changed since the form's original publication.

One other aspect of the FT Scheme which is often overlooked is it's status.

The FT Scheme is NOT a Statutory Scheme,as in it is totally under the Discretionary control of the relevant Minister who can at the stroke of a pen,end or amend it without recourse to the Oireachtas....any takers on this occurring in our lifetime ?

But I've already explained why a child under 16 might be applying for free travel? Are you not following the thread?

punisher5112

Oh I give up. I don't need to provide anything children do get it in very certain circumstances.


I know they are under 16 and well under for that matter.

infogiver

Fred Swanson wrote: »

It would explain what the others are in the FTP figures.

A very simple Google tells you which categories of SW payments include Free Travel as a "secondary benefit ".
Everyone over 66
Everyone on Disability Allowance
Everyone on invalidity pension
Everyone on Carers Allowance
And then :
Everyone over 70 gets a companion pass
Everyone claiming for a spouse/cohabitant gets a FT +spouse
Except for Carers Allowance, for whom there is no dependent payment, their pass is just for them
And then:
If your GP completes the form and the SW MO agrees then the people NOT OAPs can get a companion pass, except, once again, for Carers.

infogiver

punisher5112 wrote: »

Oh I give up. I don't need to provide anything children do get it in very certain circumstances.


I know they are under 16 and well under for that matter.

If your insisting that your right in an argument it's always beneficial to have evidence
Especially when the poster you are arguing with has posted evidence to contradict you.
No hard feelings.

punisher5112

infogiver wrote: »

If your insisting that your right in an argument it's always beneficial to have evidence
Especially when the poster you are arguing with has posted evidence to contradict you.
No hard feelings.

Its an extremely sensitive area with under age so quite possible its in the other.

91wx763

bigredone wrote: »

Something similar happens on DB all the time, a passenger will be just about to pay and someone will say " driver i have a pass they are with me".

There was an old bloke down at Rosslare a year or so back when the ferrythe arrived, bold as brass came up to me asking where was I going and saying he could bring me there for a tenner. Called me an effin eejit when I got on the bus and paid my money. He got off in Wexford, driver said he was always at it but there was nothing he could do about it.

bigredone

infogiver wrote: »

The children you know may have free travel but it is not the Free Travel Scheme as discussed in this thread.

It is the exact same old paper pass and now the new credit card pass.
They are special needs children, no question about it they have a free travel pass the same as all the others issued to adults.

DUBLINBUSGUY

I think you have to scan it on the Leap Card scanner on the right hand side as you get on. I am not 100% sure though as I don't have one myself. (DUBLIN BUS)