A Third World War on the cards.

Reiver

Sir Osis of Liver. wrote: »

“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”

A.Einstein

Balls.


The war would continue, just both sides would know to disperse more so they don't present a tempting target. No one is going to waste a nuke on a few hundred soldiers. The whole going back to the stone age thing is fantastical thinking.

gandalf

Reiver wrote: »

It was a little "local difficulty" in what we called the Polish Corridor that sparked off the largest war the world has ever seen.

And the Russians were involved in that as well helping out their buddies in divvying up Poland between them.

Streetwalker

It is long overdue alright. I don't know who's crazier the Americans or the Russians.

irishlad12345

reckon China and taiwan will be what starts WW3

darkpagandeath

irishlad12345 wrote: »

reckon China and taiwan will be what starts WW3

China's army is defensive in nature keeping the people in line. They don't really have the capacity to wage large scale war on the west without uniting their people against the west somehow.

Maximus Alexander

darkpagandeath wrote: »

China's army is defensive in nature keeping the people in line. They don't really have the capacity to wage large scale war on the west without uniting their people against the west somehow.

That's what they want you to think.

jacksie66

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newmug

I hope it never happens, but I think WW3 will definitely happen within our lifetimes. This period of peace in Europe has been the longest ever, in history. Its just a matter of time, and with ISIS knocking at the neighbours door, and Russia knocking at ours, its as likely as ever.

And do you know what else? I wouldnt rule out a second civil war in Ireland either.

dxhound2005

newmug wrote: »

I hope it never happens, but I think WW3 will definitely happen within our lifetimes. This period of peace in Europe has been the longest ever, in history. Its just a matter of time, and with ISIS knocking at the neighbours door, and Russia knocking at ours, its as likely as ever.

And do you know what else? I wouldnt rule out a second civil war in Ireland either.

That's too vague, saying within our lifetimes. That could be one year for a person or one hundred years.

silverfeather

The combined 28 nations of NATO have a combined population triple that of Russia. They have budgets many times he size of Russia. Their combines forces easily outgun russia many times over. NATO nuclear sharing vastly over powers Russia.


WWIII is a hypothetical event.

I think if you want to hypothesize you need to be aware of the actual military plans that automatically kick into place should this arise. Also the attack warning systems. Current ones are top secret but past ones aren't. Operation Behemoth ,NATO nuclear sharing,Exercise Internal Look

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_III#Military_plans

Exercises Grand Slam, Longstep, and Mainbrace.

Looking at historical close calls. Some of them believe it or not have been total accidents. The Norwegian rocket incident was a total accident. Nearly caused wwIII there were many false alarms during the cold war. The Crimean crisis.

silverfeather

newmug wrote: »

And do you know what else? I wouldnt rule out a second civil war in Ireland either.

I think I would.

jacksie66

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darkpagandeath

silverfeather wrote: »

The combined 28 nations of NATO have a combined population triple that of Russia. They have budgets many times he size of Russia. Their combines forces easily outgun russia many times over. NATO nuclear sharing vastly over powers Russia.


WWIII is a hypothetical event.

I think if you want to hypothesize you need to be aware of the actual military plans that automatically kick into place should this arise. Also the attack warning systems. Current ones are top secret but past ones aren't. Operation Behemoth ,NATO nuclear sharing,Exercise Internal Look

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_III#Military_plans

Exercises Grand Slam, Longstep, and Mainbrace.

Looking at historical close calls. Some of them believe it or not have been total accidents. The Norwegian rocket incident was a total accident. Nearly caused wwIII there were many false alarms during the cold war. The Crimean crisis.

Exactly why you think Russia has not cough cough Directly intervened in Ukraine. Crimea excuse was not an invasion as troops were there already.

silverfeather

jacksie66 wrote: »

Between the Yes and No voters..

The no side lost.

darkpagandeath

newmug wrote: »

I hope it never happens, but I think WW3 will definitely happen within our lifetimes. This period of peace in Europe has been the longest ever, in history. Its just a matter of time, and with ISIS knocking at the neighbours door, and Russia knocking at ours, its as likely as ever.

And do you know what else? I wouldnt rule out a second civil war in Ireland either.

Why would the UK goto war with the Republic ?

dxhound2005

silverfeather wrote: »

The no side lost.

And the No side lost the last civil war.

jacksie66

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silverfeather

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Exactly why you think Russia has not cough cough Directly intervened in Ukraine. Crimea excuse was not an invasion as troops were there already.

It's interesting Russian officials have declared

an information war.

These stories play on half-truths, like the presence of far-right nationalists at Maidan, and reasonable doubt, like skepticism of western meddling.

Interesting tactic. Very tough to see clearly not even if you were on the ground. It needs high intelligence to figure out. Putin knew that and it's effect in making citizens in the west less inclined to act or want their govt to act.

dxhound2005

We weren't in WW2. I think we should stay out WW3 (and WW4,5 and 6) as well.

bur

dxhound2005 wrote: »

That's too vague, saying within our lifetimes. That could be one year for a person or one hundred years.

Have you ever been called pedantic?

AllGunsBlazing

The West and Russia will never come to direct blows. Proxy wars tend to be the favoured method of combat since ww2.

darkpagandeath

There were WW before the 20th century.

dxhound2005

bur wrote: »

Have you ever been called pedantic?

Not in my lifetime.

blatantrereg

Reiver wrote: »

Has the entire Ukrainian crisis been a fantastic case of maskirovka on the part of NATO?

No.

It takes two to tango.

No. Asserting yourself with an aggressor is more likely to avoid physical conflict than pandering to them. War with Russia wouldn't benefit any western nation.

The last thread with this sort of nonsense only petered out a week or so ago.

ComfortKid

catallus wrote:

I haven't heard anything about Ukraine or Crimea in ages, now that you mention it.

catallus wrote:

Maybe it wasn't such a big deal after all and someone in the media thought it would be a good idea to stir shíte.

Or maybe our 'Western' media doesn't want us to know what the West is doing?

Streetwalker

silverfeather wrote: »

The combined 28 nations of NATO have a combined population triple that of Russia. They have budgets many times he size of Russia. Their combines forces easily outgun russia many times over. NATO nuclear sharing vastly over powers Russia.


WWIII is a hypothetical event.

I think if you want to hypothesize you need to be aware of the actual military plans that automatically kick into place should this arise. Also the attack warning systems. Current ones are top secret but past ones aren't. Operation Behemoth ,NATO nuclear sharing,Exercise Internal Look

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_III#Military_plans

Exercises Grand Slam, Longstep, and Mainbrace.

Looking at historical close calls. Some of them believe it or not have been total accidents. The Norwegian rocket incident was a total accident. Nearly caused wwIII there were many false alarms during the cold war. The Crimean crisis.

With nuclear weapons none of those facts are valid. I'm more worried about American aggression than Russian aggression tbh.

darkpagandeath

Streetwalker wrote: »

With nuclear weapons none of those facts are valid. I'm more worried about American aggression than Russian aggression tbh.

MAD, No one will go nuclear It will be terrorist plot or an accident. There will be no purposeful launch of nuclear weapons by any country that has them In a war.

Akrasia

The MAD I'm worried about is Daenerys Targaryen when she lets loose with her dragons

traprunner

mad muffin wrote: »

A Third World War is sorely needed. It's benefits will be wide reaching. Just like the two before it.

Firstly it will thin out the herd.

It will advance science and medicine.

According to Breda O'Brien we will be extinct in 150 years because we allow gay people to get married so there really can't be a need for a world war.

The_Valeyard

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