I'm gay.

Sleepy

Aard wrote: »

Even if they did.... would you want them to confess their undying requited attraction to you!

Probably not but a little bit of flirting never hurt anyone

jobbridge4life

I wonder how many new gays there are since this referendum? Can only be good.

efb

jobbridge4life wrote: »

I wonder how many new gays there are since this referendum? Can only be good.

Out gays you mean

jobbridge4life

efb wrote: »

Out gays you mean

Yes. Newly out gays.

harry Bailey esq

MarkR wrote: »

I know it shouldn't be a big thing, but I know it is. Guess we'll have to adjust the coke and hookers order slightly

Gay people enjoy coke and hookers just as much as the rest of us presumably,sure why wouldn't they?

Kiwi in IE

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

Gay people enjoy coke and hookers just as much as the rest of us presumably,sure why wouldn't they?

I think s/he meant that the gender of the hookers may require adjustment

blatantrereg

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Yes. Newly out gays.

I'm aware of some people who will interpret it as previously straight people turning gay. Bizarre perception of it as some form of social contagion.

For example I know one man who tells his gay son he's not gay, it's just peer pressure. Currently spouting vague but ominous statements about the future of society since the referendum.

It's great that this empowering people to come out. Would be funny how a few people will interpret it if it wasn't sad.

The Muppet

meh but hey congratulations on feeling comfortable enough to make the post.

we all knew

harry Bailey esq

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

I think s/he meant that the gender of the hookers may require adjustment

Many hookers already have 'adjustments' already.In Amsterdam they stand behind the blue lights so as to avoid embarrassment and confusion. I f@king hate being colourblind

Kiwi in IE

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

Many hookers already have 'adjustments' already.In Amsterdam they stand behind the blue lights so as to avoid embarrassment and confusion. I f@king hate being colourblind

I didn't word that post particularly well! :P

marmurr1916

I'm from Cork.

Geniass

marmurr1916 wrote: »

I'm from Cork.

Nah, if you were you'd be like.

I'm from the greatest county in world, the People's Republic of Cork - Da Real Capital, loike.


Like I am

jobbridge4life

marmurr1916 wrote: »

I'm from Cork.

Cause that is the same.

DeVore

marmurr1916 wrote: »

I'm from Cork.

Look, that's fine but really, do you have to be in everyones face about it?

DeVore

blatantrereg wrote: »

I'm aware some people who will interpret it as previously straight people turning gay. Bizarre perception of it as some form of social contagion.

For example I know one man who tells his gay son he's not gay, it's just peer pressure. Currently spouting vague but ominous statements about the future of society since the referendum.

It's great that this empowering people to come out. Would be funny how a few people will interpret it if it wasn't sad.

Some people have asked me when I knew and that's kind of a weird question.... I guess I realised when I was a young lad that I was different. Remember I was 22 when it was *decriminalised* ... It was a scary time. This hasn't been some dawning realisation other than "I had better not say this to anyone and just keep my trap shut and laugh along". The idea it was a "choice" is laughable. Why the fnck would anyone have chosen that. I'm glad younger people haven't had to fight that... things aren't all sunshine and lollipops just yet but at least these days its time for the homophobes to run and hide and pretend they don't hold the views they do. Let them be afraid someone will find out what their real nature is.... I've done more than my fair share of it.

jobbridge4life

DeVore wrote: »

Some people have asked me when I knew and that's kind of a weird question.... I guess I realised when I was a young lad that I was different. Remember I was 22 when it was *decriminalised* ... It was a scary time. This hasn't been some dawning realisation other than "I had better not say this to anyone and just keep my trap shut and laugh along". The idea it was a "choice" is laughable. Why the fnck would anyone have chosen that. I'm glad younger people haven't had to fight that... things aren't all sunshine and lollipops just yet but at least these days its time for the homophobes to run and hide and pretend they don't hold the views they do. Let them be afraid someone will find out what their real nature is.... I've done more than my fair share of it.

With respect we definitely did. I was 5 when decriminalization happened so that element might be foreign to me but the remainder of your post certainly still applies.

hdowney

Congrats on feeling ready and able to come out. This weekend was such a big one for so many people. It has helped a large proportion of people feel able to walk down the street with their heads high and not feel the need to 'check' themselves.

I totally get what you were saying about not identifying with the camp stereotypes. My best mate is the same. Doesn't identify that way at all. Is still into more 'manly' things like wrestling etc. Then another of my friends is WAY more camp. He is a drag queen! Then there are the inbetweens. Plus the lesbians. Some Butch. Some femme. Some a mix. There is no definitive 'gay' type. Just do you

And those who don't or can't or haven't a clue 're labels. Again. Just do you. That is the only label you need. You are you and nothing else.

itac

Ahh here, i'm just going to have to stop fancying fellas who seemed nice over the years through varying forms of media....Mark Feehily, Leo, and now Devore!

Seriously though Devore, I'm glad this weekend helped you so much-unknowingly you've helped so many people yourself with your honesty about your depression through this site (i'm one of them!)-i'm sure your coming out will help many more in years to come-and so i'm glad so many people have (unknowingly) helped you too!

Maith thú and may the years ahead bring you much love and happiness!xx

robman60

Nice job for your honesty, I suppose it gives some insight to the rest of us as to what the journey is like. Coming up to the referendum I felt a bit apathetic to the whole thing but seeing the confidence and sense of acceptance it gives to some gay people makes me glad I was just a small part of the change.

Ideally, I'd like to see the day where the concept of "coming out" isn't really a huge ordeal and search for acceptance, but rather that gay people could just grow up and mature like any other because sexuality is only one element of our overall being.

Big respect for your honesty, and it was nice to get some insight into the tangible effect the last weekend had on you.

sunshine and showers

Glad to hear things are going well for you. Nice one being so open and honest about it on your lovely website. You're a sound chap!

Now, I've an uncle about your age....single and all. :P

Annasopra

jobbridge4life wrote: »

With respect we definitely did. I was 5 when decriminalization happened so that element might be foreign to me but the remainder of your post certainly still applies.

I think both of you are right to some extent. On the one hand there was a massive sea change over the last 22 years and in particular younger people benefited from the amazing work done by belong to and usi and glen and youth groups and schools and government policy however not all young people did and certainly the messages from the No side were extremely hurtful and stressful to many young people.

jobbridge4life

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I think both of you are right to some extent. On the one hand there was a massive sea change over the last 22 years and in particular younger people benefited from the amazing work done by belong to and usi and glen and youth groups and schools and government policy however not all young people did and certainly the messages from the No side were extremely hurtful and stressful to many young people.

I wasn't in any way trying to dismiss DeVores point its just that progress has been slow iterative process. Every newly out gay person earned us a little bit more support. I personally have noticed a enormous, radical transformation from when I was out in secondary school in a rural village from 2000 to 2006 and the experience of my brother (he is not gay but there are gay people in his year) today. Its overwhelming and humbling.

DeVore

Absolutely. As I said, its not all sunshine and lollipops yet for young people coming out in Ireland. It is *better*, sure, but that's a relative term!

When I was growing up my fantasies literally made me a sex-criminal ... and while it was never really a concern about being arrested (everyone knew that that law was ridiculous) ... that was the backdrop. The sense was "yeah, you can have your furtive ads in the back of In Dublin and we wont actively hunt you, but always remember we think you are so abnormal as to be criminal". That hurts and makes sure you keep your secrets close. It does untold damage to your self-esteem and definitely fed into the depression I have talked about on AH. I'm very glad that, whatever challenges our youth face today (and discrimination didn't disappear overnight on Saturday remember)...that at least society has improved beyond that.

endacl

jobbridge4life wrote: »

I wonder how many new gays there are since this referendum? Can only be good.

Quite a few, I'd expect. As several No voters on here pointed out, the gay is fierce trendy these days.

jobbridge4life

endacl wrote: »

Quite a few, I'd expect. As several No voters on here pointed out, the gay is fierce trendy these days.

Wonderful. Soon we shall have reached critical mass and then... we strike!

DeVore

Peak gay!

efb

Once you go cock you never go bock

endacl

efb wrote: »

Once you go cock you never go bock

That's what my missus says!

:pac:

BuffyBot

At least your hair is no longer alone

Links234

I'm late to the party, but seriously fair play to you Dev