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DCM 2015: Mentored Novices Thread
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See as a mod of After Hours,I automatically assume that all those facebook people must be trolling!
Lads I wish I could go with ye in the 4:30 group but I think I'd be giving myself a very hard day out if I did.
My last few LSR runs were done at a pace that would give me 4:50ish for 26.2 miles. I just don't see how I could knock 20 minutes off of that. I'm going to chat with my trainer over the weekend anyway and we'll come up with a plan, but I gather he'll say the same - he at least has all my training at his fingertips.
Pity, would be just be amazing to run a marathon with you guys
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[Deleted User] wrote: »See as a mod of After Hours,I automatically assume that all those facebook people must be trolling!
Lads I wish I could go with ye in the 4:30 group but I think I'd be giving myself a very hard day out if I did.
My last few LSR runs were done at a pace that would give me 4:50ish for 26.2 miles. I just don't see how I could knock 20 minutes off of that. I'm going to chat with my trainer over the weekend anyway and we'll come up with a plan, but I gather he'll say the same - he at least has all my training at his fingertips.
Pity, would be just be amazing to run a marathon with you guys
It will amazing anyway and sure this way we have just enough time to get the pints in before you arrive so you're timing it well
Either way, starting with the 4:30 pacers does not automatically mean a finishing time of 4:30. I have enough respect for what we are about to do to know that much.0 -
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[Deleted User] wrote: »See as a mod of After Hours,I automatically assume that all those facebook people must be trolling!
Lads I wish I could go with ye in the 4:30 group but I think I'd be giving myself a very hard day out if I did.
My last few LSR runs were done at a pace that would give me 4:50ish for 26.2 miles. I just don't see how I could knock 20 minutes off of that. I'm going to chat with my trainer over the weekend anyway and we'll come up with a plan, but I gather he'll say the same - he at least has all my training at his fingertips.
Pity, would be just be amazing to run a marathon with you guys
we'll make up for it in mc grattans after whoopssa !! 0 -
It will amazing anyway and sure this way we have just enough time to get the pints in before you arrive so you're timing it well
Either way, starting with the 4:30 pacers does not automatically mean a finishing time of 4:30. I have enough respect for what we are about to do to know that much.
Absolutely. And it may well turn out that my trainer says go for the 4:30 - it's 40-50 seconds a mile faster than my average training pace - which is pretty much what it should be, but I would be very surprised if I had 26.2 miles of that in me so I'll be going out cautiously regardless.
If for any reason anything goes wrong for ye, which I sincerely doubt as your training has all been bang on, then at least you can be safe in the knowledge that there's someone behind you with a stash of jelly babieswe'll make up for it in mc grattans after whoopssa !!
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Deleted User wrote: »Absolutely. And it may well turn out that my trainer says go for the 4:30 - it's 40-50 seconds a mile faster than my average training pace - which is pretty much what it should be, but I would be very surprised if I had 26.2 miles of that in me so I'll be going out cautiously regardless.
If for any reason anything goes wrong for ye, which I sincerely doubt as your training has all been bang on, then at least you can be safe in the knowledge that there's someone behind you with a stash of jelly babies
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I think we'll be around the same
I planned for 4:30 all along but have doubts for endurance.
Gonna start off with the 4:40 group & see how I go.0 -
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Hi stepster. You're going to be in with a crowd of messers y'know awesome company, and that's just the pacersI started my training with the ambition of a sub 4 hour. Since then I have had to err on the side of caution due to niggly injuries (mostly calf). With this in mind I am going to run in the 4.30 group, and see how I feel on the day. I had a very pleasurable 8 mile run on Saturday when for the first time I ran with someone. All of my training so far has been on my own. It made a huge difference to me having someone to talk to. The miles went by so quickly, I wasn't even thinking about pace (turns out it was 9:21 pace which is too fast!).. So here's me hoping to get to know all you 4.30ers on the day! Running in company is great but the amount of training you have done on your own will have made your mental stamina hard as a rock so well done.
Great post Toulouse and thanks for the kind words. You have all the boxes ticked (and a couple extra...20 mile runI'm exhausted, this taper lark is not all it's cracked up to be! A la Whoopsa I've been having Marathon dreams too. Got about 3 hours last night before waking up and I'm shattered today.
Delighted to hear about Murph for the 4.30 group though, have we gotten confirmation yet?
With that, it's time for my pace talk! I'm going to stick with my 4.30 plan and then push on at around 20 miles if I can. I'm really proud of myself for sticking to the training and I've completed every single session (and some extra) and loved it all. I'm happy enough with all the races in the series and think if anything I'm guilty of being a little too conservative with my targets.
However half the fun in this whole thing, okay, more than half the fun has been the craic I've had with lots of new friends and we are all aiming for around the same time (4.30) so I'm really happy and proud to be doing this with all of you and I can't wait for the big day. I want to enjoy this race and look back on it with happy memories and I don't think that's worth sacrificing for the sake of 10 or 15 minutes.
I'm so happy that I'm doing DCM 2015 with this novice team and under the guidance of DG and her band of trusty helpers. Out of 3 of us from work that set out to do this it now looks like I'm the only one who will make it to the start line and that is totally down to this thread and all the excellent and well-structured advice we've been given. So huge kudos to you guys and thank you so so much.
8 mile LSR on Saturday and then sports massage on Monday. No more gym, only 9 miles over 3 days next week and hopefully I'll be all fresh and raring to go at the start line on Monday week!
) Good call on the pace!
Hi ginger runner, thanks for popping in and the very best of luck to you this year! Hope it's an enjoyable experience and that you get what you want out of the day. We'll all be doing shorter runs at easy pace and some will throw a few strides in. Anything else and they know better than to post here about it :pac:Ginger runner wrote: »Folks, long time lurker here and decided to post something at long last. I have to say that this is a fantastic thread with all the great contributions from posters and long run reports and the great advice from experienced runners
Heading in to my 4th DCM in a row and can't wait to be honest. Training has gone well and I have 3 sub 1 hr 40 half marathons this year, the best in Enniscorthy in June in 1:36:05 on a hilly course
Never followed a plan and only do three runs a week. Long run at the weekend and two tempo runs during the week. First marathon in 2012 was an unforgettable experience, high fiving kids and enjoying the banter on my way round. Finished in 3 hrs 54 mins, was banjaxed about 700 metres from the line so that couldn't come soon enough. 3:53 in 2013 and 3:39:27 last year
I have a 17, 18 and two 21 milers done. Just wondering what people's plans are for the last week of the taper. I will do the same as last year, 7 miler this Sunday then a 4 and 3 easy next tues and thurs. All about rest and relaxation in the last week but easier said than done with taper madness tightening it's grip!
Anybody running for charity this year? I have ran for Temple Street Childrens Hospital and Make a Wish Ireland in previous years, and fundraising for Console this year
Best of luck to everyone (especially first timers) and hope anybody with colds/niggly injuries make the start line
Say hello at the main event on the 26th if you get a chance.
Go into withdrawal....that and get to bed on time I preach but don't always practiseI think we'll need a training plan for future novices threads the way this thread is going. It's been really great over the last few days. Stellar work on the summary posts and feedback Dubgal, what on earth are you going to do with all the free time you'll have after the marathon? Train for one yourself?
The immediate proximity of the marathon really hit home today when I saw a bottle of milk that goes off on the 27th. Also I did my last real fast miles today, running home from work and for once it was excellent! 9 miles averaging at 7'48, couple of fast miles at the end, warmed up ok but kind of forgot to slow down towards the end... It's been a real pleasure singer although I am blaming you for my extra wrinkles :pac:
You'll be well ready by the 26th, great news. Hopefully meet you on the 26th!The anti-bios finished yesterday and the infection looks like it's gone. It's still tender to the touch but not painful but I am aware of it when running. The physio reckons that it will have an impact on my running as I’ll be subconsciously making adjustments to compensate. I'm pretty sure too I'll lose the nail – it’s a very attractive shade of iridescent purple at the moment - but hopefully it won't happen before the 26th. A painful dry-needling session with the physio a couple of weeks back sorted out the itb. The calf tightness is manageable and hasn’t really developed beyond the niggle stage. Physio gave both legs a light massage yesterday, adjusted the leg length difference by 8mm and thinks I’m in good enough shape all things considered. Booked in for one more session early next week.
55mins/9km tonight @ z2 with 6 x 20'/30' strides. Beautiful night for a run
Great call A and thanks, ye are worth every post, all of ye!Okay guess we have to put it in writing to commit which is why I signed up to this amazing thread in the first place. Looking back over the last 17 weeks hands down one of the hardest and most challenging things I have ever done. I never thought I would get this far and I am so proud of myself. So after reviewing my training I've stuck to the plan and haven't missed any of the long runs.... Basically I've trained for 4.30 so I owe it to myself to go for it so will also be in the awesome 4.30 group ..... Murphd .... No pressure. !!! +1 to toulouses post have met such great people thanks to this thread and hats off to DG and all our mentors for all your time and support. There it is in type no going back .... Collected my tshirt this aft .... Got my name put on the front. Went to penneys and bought tracksuit bottom and top and hat that I can ditch at the start (seeing as a charity collects them) it's getting real
What happened to turn back after 10minutes??!!Deleted User wrote: »Shower of bastards :P
Posted earlier about feeling shyte. Saw Chris and Firedance's post, also got a text from Libelula saying to go to bed. Didn't have to be told twice and got into bed for a nap. Woke up and saw Clearlier's post plus endorsements and felt guilty so did 40 very slow yucky minutes with no hill sprints. It felt terrible.
I now have hot whiskey and am looking very forward to climbing back into bed.
Pretty sure I used to have a family. Hope to see them again in two weeks!
Heehee was so tempted to ask if you do piggy backs but restrained myself. See a couple of your friends made an appearance (RD)Thanks for your FB questions; give me this thread any day. That was all a bit mad for myself an UM1 :pac:!!!
There is still someone asking me if it is ok to have done 1 max run of 13 miles pls help
i alredy said it is not ideal but she seems to think it is normal :eek:
THIS SHOULD BE FOR EVERYBODY :eek: good call libelula!TFGR don't get a new t-shirt for the marathon now- you won't have done enough long runs init to know if it'll be ok /
Heehee ye are models of greatness here aren't yeBit sadistic but the carnage has given me a confidence boost! Nothing like visiting the naughty class to see how good you are :pac:
ok now I'm in, where do I sign?!As well as running for more years than I care to remember I've been addicted to a TV program call Countdown. I know come next week ye'll all be in countdown mode. I hope the extra bit of training I got in this year will help me over the last few difficult miles as I intend to go with the 4 30 pacers.
MURPH D that's me allright and I will probably come across you somewhere I'm sure. It would be wonderful if this fine weather continued for another 10 days or so as last year the strong wind on Crumlin Rd. blew my chances away.
Ah how lovely! Thanks Libelula and Ososlo!I'll be knocking around on the day, as part of 'team Whoops'. If any of ye have any kind of panic/trouble/emergency, don't hesitate to drop me a pm.
Being on team Whoops is my priority so her needs come first, but if I can help in some small way I will.eyeball kid wrote: »
Thanks for that! We'll get a table up with numbers after the expo.0 -
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As well as running for more years than I care to remember I've been addicted to a TV program call Countdown. I know come next week ye'll all be in countdown mode. I hope the extra bit of training I got in this year will help me over the last few difficult miles as I intend to go with the 4 30 pacers.
MURPH D that's me allright and I will probably come across you somewhere I'm sure. It would be wonderful if this fine weather continued for another 10 days or so as last year the strong wind on Crumlin Rd. blew my chances away.
You might be seeing me sooner rather than later. The pacer slots are still unofficial until final confirmation but all I will say is I am no longer in the 4:40 slot.
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