gubberment expenditure on propoganda

dxhound2005

xhoundx wrote: »

Is it? I'm just passing time on a lazy Saturday evening. The type of posters I'm talking about (not giving out about) appear to spend night and day arguing one agenda or another.

Indirectly associated would to me mean somehow related to or friendly with someone in a political party, or a paid shill just shilling for €€

Arguing against an agenda more likely. Like the numerous people who use Boards as part of the anti property tax and anti water charges campaigns. Who is paying them to shill?

Have you a direct or indirect association with any political party or any political campaigns or agenda yourself? For instance are you opposed to water charges and property tax and did you ever attend any of the protests?

For the record, apart from voting in elections, I have no direct or indirect association with any political party or movement. And nobody is paying me.

xhoundx

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Arguing against an agenda more likely. Like the numerous people who use Boards as part of the anti property tax and anti water charges campaigns. Who is paying them to shill?

Have you a direct or indirect association with any political party or any political campaigns or agenda yourself? For instance are you opposed to water charges and property tax and did you ever attend any of the protests?

For the record, apart from voting in elections, I have no direct or indirect association with any political party or movement. And nobody is paying me.

Arguing against something is the same thing as arguing for another thing.

I have zero affillation with any political party, I find them all equally repulsive.

I'd just be interested in knowing whether our taxes fund these online campaigns

Annasopra

xhoundx wrote: »

Looking through various chat forums and it appears very obvious that political parties have a lot of people employed to spin their agendas. Just wondering out loud how much money do the various parties spend on these shills? Is it a well paid job? More importantly where does the money come from to pay these shills? Is it from party funds or does it come from allowances funded by you and I, ie taxpayers money?

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Fred Swanson

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dxhound2005

xhoundx wrote: »

Arguing against something is the same thing as arguing for another thing.

I have zero affillation with any political party, I find them all equally repulsive.

I'd just be interested in knowing whether our taxes fund these online campaigns

You are the one saying there is funding going on. But you want other people to say where the funding is coming from. It's up to you to provide your evidence of funding, then we can see if it is real or imagined.

mikom

xhoundx wrote: »

Looking through various chat forums and it appears very obvious that political parties have a lot of people employed to spin their agendas. Just wondering out loud how much money do the various parties spend on these shills? Is it a well paid job? More importantly where does the money come from to pay these shills? Is it from party funds or does it come from allowances funded by you and I, ie taxpayers money?

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xhoundx

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Apparently SF TDs only take the average industrial wage meaning the party pockets the rest. Therefore public money is being used for their propaganda.

Thanks for clearing that up, makes sense if in fact they really do just take the AIW.
Now for the other parties, where does their funding come from to counter the SF shilling?

xhoundx

dxhound2005 wrote: »

You are the one saying there is funding going on. But you want other people to say where the funding is coming from. It's up to you to provide your evidence of funding, then we can see if it is real or imagined.

Eh if I had evidence then why would I need to start a thread here to ask what I already knew?

dxhound2005

xhoundx wrote: »

Eh if I had evidence then why would I need to start a thread here to ask what I already knew?

If you have no evidence then how can you justify what you wrote in the first post:

it appears very obvious that political parties have a lot of people employed to spin their agendas

Cold War Kid

But you're saying it's obvious that it's going on.
It's not IMO. I genuinely don't see anything other than people defending the party in question - that's not a strange thing to happen. Some people really do buy hugely into the party they support.
Many who say the shilling thing about Sinn Féin tend to be extremely anti nationalist and pro loyalist, not just anti provo - and use the stupid term "shinnerbot" a lot (I'm not a fan of SF btw).

xhoundx

dxhound2005 wrote: »

If you have no evidence then how can you justify what you wrote in the first post:

it appears very obvious that political parties have a lot of people employed to spin their agendas

The clue is in the word appears, i never said it was fact, just that it appears that way

dxhound2005

xhoundx wrote: »

The clue is in the word appears

Well go away and research the subject a bit more and come back with something more concrete than Appears.

xhoundx

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Well go away and research the subject a bit more and come back with something more concrete than Appears.

Back at you, can you come up with anything concrete to prove that I'm wrong in suspecting what I do?

And btw wtf are you to tell anyone here to go away?

Phoebas

xhoundx wrote: »

The clue is in the word appears, i never said it was fact, just that it appears that way

This thread belongs in CT so.

Streetwalker

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

They don't really need to spin anything, 5 minutes listening to the rubbish the left spouts would convince most people that while the government makes mistakes they are still doing a reasonable job of turning the country around.

Only that they aren't.

dxhound2005

xhoundx wrote: »

Back at you, can you come up with anything concrete to prove that I'm wrong in suspecting what I do?

And btw wtf are you to tell anyone here to go away?

I suspect that you just made it all up. Prove me wrong.

Cold War Kid

This is just confusing when there is "xhound" in both their usernames.

xhoundx

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I suspect that you just made it all up. Prove me wrong.

I can't prove I'm right, can you prove I made it up or do you just suspect I'm making it up?

You seem to have somehow taken offence to my question, you are the main antagonist on this thread to the suggestions I've made. Why so concerned with a simple question regarding whether or not our taxes fund online propaganda

dxhound2005

Cold War Kid wrote: »

This is just confusing when there is "xhound" in both their usernames.

Mine has two D's. I hope that helps.

dxhound2005

xhoundx wrote: »

I can't prove I'm right, can you prove I made it up or do you just suspect I'm making it up?

You seem to have somehow taken offence to my question, you are the main antagonist on this thread to the suggestions I've made. Why so concerned with a simple question regarding whether or not our taxes fund online propaganda

Nobody on this thread has owned up to being paid for being here. I'm not being paid. How about you link to a few of those threads and posts which prompted your suspicions.

Phoebas

xhoundx wrote: »

I can't prove I'm right, can you prove I made it up or do you just suspect I'm making it up?

If you can't provide any evidence for it then you are just making it up.

xhoundx

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Nobody on this thread has owned up to being paid for being here. I'm not being paid. How about you link to a few of those threads and posts which prompted your suspicions.

Ah go away, I'm on a phone and can't be arsed.

Again you appear very eager to put down my argument. Why are you so defensive about this topic? I never accused you of being a shill did I?

dxhound2005

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Mine has two D's. I hope that helps.

You're a Double D too. How interesting. Any more out there?

mikom

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Royal Legend

Cold War Kid wrote: »

This is just confusing when there is "xhound" in both their usernames.

its the same person, schizo hound would be more appropriate :rolleyes:

xhoundx

Phoebas wrote: »

If you can't provide any evidence for it then you are just making it up.

What am I making up? I asked a question as to whether or not tax payers money funded online propaganda. How's that making anything up other than making a question up?

xhoundx

Royal Legend wrote: »

its the same person, schizo hound would be more appropriate :rolleyes:

I can assure you I'm not him

xhoundx

xhoundx wrote: »

What am I making up? I asked a question as to whether or not tax payers money funded online propaganda. How's that making anything up other than making a question up?

How would it be taxpayers money?

dxhound2005

xhoundx wrote: »

Ah go away, I'm on a phone and can't be arsed.

Again you appear very eager to put down my argument. Why are you so defensive about this topic? I never accused you of being a shill did I?

Good news. I just did a comprehensive trawl of AH and Politics Cafe and there is no evidence whatsoever to support your contention. What I wrote earlier about SF was a joke, none of their supporters are getting paid.

I hope you can accept the bona fides of my research. If you present any evidence to disprove it I will of course give it due consideration.

I cannot speak for other forums, its is possible for instance that some football club could be paying their supporters for their participation on Boards. But I have not researched that so I can't say either way.

xhoundx

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How would it be taxpayers money?

If it came from party allowances rather than party donations