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gubberment expenditure on propoganda

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  • 09-05-2015 5:59pm
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    xhoundx
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 327 ✭✭


    Looking through various chat forums and it appears very obvious that political parties have a lot of people employed to spin their agendas. Just wondering out loud how much money do the various parties spend on these shills? Is it a well paid job? More importantly where does the money come from to pay these shills? Is it from party funds or does it come from allowances funded by you and I, ie taxpayers money?


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    #2
    Sheep Lover
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    There is no such thing.

    And if Fine Gael did do such a thing it would be paid fairly well, above average industrial wage and some health care benefits.

    P.s. Vote Fine Gael


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    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,409 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Could be FG supporters.

    Not saying you're wrong,but maybe.


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    #4
    Not a NSA agent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Not a NSA agent


    Some people are just stupid enough to offer the service for free by having religious like devotion for a political party.


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    TheChizler
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    Examples?


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    Galwayguy35
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    They don't really need to spin anything, 5 minutes listening to the rubbish the left spouts would convince most people that while the government makes mistakes they are still doing a reasonable job of turning the country around.


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    whiskeyman
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    All the digital ink used for the type on boards.ie is supplied by SF...


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    Jesus Wept
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    I'm available for hire if such work exists.


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    Boskowski
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    Just a reminder to all those left haters. You'd all be still down in the mines slaving for a dime and a half penny a day if it wasn't for the left. Now back to under your stone.


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    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,409 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Boskowski wrote: »
    Just a reminder to all those left haters. You'd all be still down in the mines slaving for a dime and a half penny a day if it wasn't for the left. Now back to under your stone.

    That's loony.


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    Boskowski
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    kneemos wrote: »
    That's loony.

    shur


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    AndonHandon
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    Boskowski wrote: »
    Just a reminder to all those left haters. You'd all be still down in the mines slaving for a dime and a half penny a day if it wasn't for the left. Now back to under your stone.

    In the future the Left will live in the metaphorical mine and populate the underclass to prop up us elite. Keep them ignorant and paranoid of each other and it can easily happen.


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    Nodin
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    AndonHandon wrote: »
    In the future the Left will live in the metaphorical mine and populate the underclass to prop up us elite. Keep them ignorant and paranoid of each other and it can easily happen.


    But every now and again we will send up to the surface for one of the elite to come down, and indeed they will stay with us, never to be seen again.


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    bjork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    Well I'm on $500/hour to post crap


    Are the rest of ye doing it for free?>>LOL


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    MRnotlob606
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    They don't really need to spin anything, 5 minutes listening to the rubbish the left spouts would convince most people that while the government makes mistakes they are still doing a reasonable job of turning the country around.

    Usual anti-left nonsense.Tell me which side of the political spectrum got us into this predicament in the first place ?


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    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,409 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    MRnotlob606 wrote: »
    Usual anti-left nonsense.Tell me which side of the political spectrum got us into this predicament in the first place ?[/quote


    Middle.


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    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,285 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    MRnotlob606 wrote: »
    Usual anti-left nonsense.Tell me which side of the political spectrum got us into this predicament in the first place ?

    FF

    The present crowd are getting us out of it though.

    All we hear from the other jokers is "tax the rich, and anyone earning over 100 k", oh yeah and "peaceful protest".


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    hatrickpatrick
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    I don't think they do, tbh.
    Most government policy is dictated by vested interests and lobby groups, all of whom pay for their own propaganda.

    Look at the insane amount of support from various "entities" for minimum alcohol pricing in publications like the Irish Times. Where are the articles from the countless ordinary people who are opposed?


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    _Kaiser_
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    The Rodgers wrote: »
    I'm available for hire if such work exists.

    *Calls Sky Sports to sell them the exclusive* :D


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    Not a NSA agent
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    They don't really need to spin anything, 5 minutes listening to the rubbish the left spouts would convince most people that while the government makes mistakes they are still doing a reasonable job of turning the country around.

    As we can see here, enough people will try to demonise the other side as if left or right is automatically bad. Dont actually think about the topic, just remember us = good, them = bad.


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    kneemos
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    I'd vote left if they weren't all totally bat sh1t crazy.


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    _Kaiser_
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    Not a NSA agent wrote: »
    As we can see here, enough people will try to demonise the other side as if left or right is automatically bad. Dont actually think about the topic, just remember us = good, them = bad.

    Indeed.. I thought I was in the Politics forum for a min! Same posters, same lines, reality optional!


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    xhoundx
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 327 ✭✭xhoundx


    So far no answers but I guess to be expected in after hours.

    What's mildly amusing is certain posters claiming the current government are responsible for any upturn in the economy. I'd like to hear exactly how the government are responsible for this upward trend.


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    MRnotlob606
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    kneemos wrote: »
    I'd vote left if they weren't all totally bat sh1t crazy.

    The Irish left is so Fragmentary,There isn't really one credible left wing party in this country that could win enough seats to form a coalition. Labour are more less a neoliberal party now and have shaking off the ol' socialism for sit at the table and have smoked salmon.


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    Cold War Kid
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    Why would it be such a certainty that they are being paid by political parties? Maybe they just support them. To me, the latter is perfectly feasible, and the most likely answer IMO. This is something that has been suspected for years. In fairness, the OP just refers to political parties in general, but I've noticed complaints that there are possible SF supporters being planted to push the agenda - but only from those who aren't SF supporters. And complaints that there are possible FG supporters being planted to push the FG agenda - but only from those who dislike FG. :pac:
    xhoundx wrote: »
    So far no answers but I guess to be expected in after hours.
    Maybe people don't have the answers to the questions you're asking?


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    dxhound2005
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    Cold War Kid wrote: »
    Why would it be such a certainty that they are being paid by political parties? Maybe they just support them. To me, the latter is perfectly feasible, and the most likely answer IMO. This is something that has been suspected for years. In fairness, the OP just refers to political parties in general, but I've noticed complaints that there are possible SF supporters being planted to push the agenda - but only from those who aren't SF supporters. And complaints that there are possible FG supporters being planted to push the FG agenda - but only from those who dislike FG. :pac:

    There's loads of those SF people on Boards. But they are either Volunteers or they only get the average industrial wage.


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    xhoundx
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 327 ✭✭xhoundx


    I don't get the government supporters angle, why would anyone not either directly or indirectly associated with a political party support them? Ok you can have your political beliefs, but to spend actual time arguing online on behalf of any party seems ludicrous, unless there was some sort of incentive to do so


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    dxhound2005
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    xhoundx wrote: »
    I don't get the government supporters angle, why would anyone not either directly or indirectly associated with a political party support them? Ok you can have your political beliefs, but to spend actual time arguing online on behalf of any party seems ludicrous, unless there was some sort of incentive to do so

    It's equally ludicrous for you to waste your time on Boards giving out about it. What's in it for you?

    What does being indirectly associated with a political party entail?


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    Fred Swanson
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    #30
    xhoundx
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 327 ✭✭xhoundx


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    It's equally ludicrous for you to waste your time on Boards giving out about it. What's in it for you?

    What does being indirectly associated with a political party entail?

    Is it? I'm just passing time on a lazy Saturday evening. The type of posters I'm talking about (not giving out about) appear to spend night and day arguing one agenda or another.

    Indirectly associated would to me mean somehow related to or friendly with someone in a political party, or a paid shill just shilling for €€


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    xhoundx
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 327 ✭✭xhoundx


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    SF have a propaganda budget like all political parties.

    Where do the funds come from? If party donations then I couldn't care much, but if on the other hand there are party allowances allocated to this behaviour that are funded directly through taxes then I would have a problem with that


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