Prisoner found dead in Mountjoy.

darkdubh

Not too people will be missing this specimen.He commited a brutal unprovoked murder and got off with manslaughter.Recently it was announced that he could be out in a few years due to remission,thankfully that won't be happening now.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0508/699636-prisoner-found-dead-in-mountjoy-prison-cell/

ygolometsipe

Schadenfreude

madma

hope the cnut felt alot of pain however he died, read the story of what he did shocking stuff

bb1234567

What a piece of sh!t. I don't believe in hell but if I did I would hope he's rotting there :mad:

keysersoze0330

A good news story for a change

porsche boy

Fcuk him. Deserved nothing less the scumbag.

NomadicGray

Natural causes?

This is fine. If someone killed him I hope they get the appropriate sentence.
Either way, no loss to the world Im sure.

delta_bravo

ygolometsipe wrote: »

Schadenfreude

"Mr Dorr, a champion kickboxer, was trying to stop the row and keep the peace when Ward repeatedly punched and kicked him in the head.

Ward did not know Mr Dorr, but he ripped the teenager’s shirt off him and continued to attack him even when he was unresponsive.

He left zigzag shoe marks on the teenager’s forehead and the side of his head after he punched, stamped and kicked him."

There's no shame in being happy a scumbag like this lad is dead.

Old Perry

The country is a better place without people like douglas ward. only wish he suffered a little longer.

http://m.rte.ie/news/2012/1221/359998-douglas-ward-court/

bb1234567

delta_bravo wrote: »

"Mr Dorr, a champion kickboxer, was trying to stop the row and keep the peace when Ward repeatedly punched and kicked him in the head.

Ward did not know Mr Dorr, but he ripped the teenager’s shirt off him and continued to attack him even when he was unresponsive.

He left zigzag shoe marks on the teenager’s forehead and the side of his head after he punched, stamped and kicked him."

There's no shame in being happy a scumbag like this lad is dead.

Hope he felt like a big man after killing an innocent kid

AlekSmart

madma wrote: »

hope the cnut felt alot of pain however he died, read the story of what he did shocking stuff

Good suggestion.....yet again,the ever present availability of Bail,played no small part in Mr Wards ability to destroy other peoples lives.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1221/359998-douglas-ward-court/

eviltwin

Gotta love karma.

ygolometsipe

delta_bravo wrote: »

There's no shame in being happy a scumbag like this lad is dead.

That is one way of looking at it but I don't agree.
Tell me about his life, how did he become so violent to do the above?
Was he born that way? Is it Genetic? Did someone else turn him that way.

He could have suffered a life far worse than the out-lash he was
convicted for but this is never know, people don't care.

Lollipops23

Much as I agree the world is a better place without the thug, he's somebody's kid. Not sure hot I feel about celebrating.

dm09

delta_bravo wrote: »

"Mr Dorr, a champion kickboxer, was trying to stop the row and keep the peace when Ward repeatedly punched and kicked him in the head.

Ward did not know Mr Dorr, but he ripped the teenager’s shirt off him and continued to attack him even when he was unresponsive.

He left zigzag shoe marks on the teenager’s forehead and the side of his head after he punched, stamped and kicked him."

There's no shame in being happy a scumbag like this lad is dead.

Not forgetting that this unprovoked attacked happened in daylight in a public street, reports were from around the time that people came out of their homes and tried to intervene and they were told by ward " Mind your own business or you'll be next " , I do know a lot of people didn't testify out of fear of comeback and it was very difficult for the DPP to get a prosecution and the rest of the gang were never charged. What absolute vile filth, I hope he suffered a horrendous end, maybe there is some justice in this world after all

eviltwin

ygolometsipe wrote: »

That is one way of looking at it but I don't agree.
Tell me about his life, how did he become so violent to do the above?
Was he born that way? Is it Genetic? Did someone else turn him that way.

He could have suffered a life far worse than the out-lash he was
convicted for but this is never know, people don't care.

He kicked a kid to death, fcuk him and his background. I've no sympathy. I'm only sorry he didn't die before crossing paths with that boy.

Santa Cruz

Our thoughts are with his family at this difficult time. NOT!

K.Flyer

If a animal bites a child or an adult it gets put down.
Good riddance to another toe- rag who destroyed people's lives.

ygolometsipe

eviltwin wrote: »

He kicked a kid to death, fcuk him and his background. I've no sympathy. I'm only sorry he didn't die before crossing paths with that boy.

The death of the younger man is the tragedy in all of this, I agree 100%.

But if his background was better know, it might prevent future killers.

Mint Aero

Delighted

eviltwin

ygolometsipe wrote: »

The death of the younger man is the tragedy in all of this, I agree 100%.

But if his background was better know, it might prevent future killers.

Cry me a river. I had a **** upbringing, I know many people who had worse. We all managed to get through life without killing someone.

scrimshanker

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Our thoughts are with his family at this difficult time. NOT!

Why not? Do we know that they did anything wrong? Maybe they did! But he could just be a total psychopath who caused his family no end of grief and shame. Perfectly nice people come from difficult backgrounds, just like he could have had a perfectly good background and turned out as he did. I wouldn't wish a relative like him on any family!

ygolometsipe

eviltwin wrote: »

We all managed to get through life without killing someone.

He didn't. And you cant speak for him regardless of your life experience.

Michael Weston

delta_bravo wrote:

There's no shame in being happy a scumbag like this lad is dead.

I think it's great, and while doubtful I hope it brings some comfort to the victims family that this skanger died an undignified death in a sh1thole drinking toxic piss .

When the Sun Hits

I remember reading about the murder at the time, such a needless act of violence it's actually mind boggling.

eviltwin

ygolometsipe wrote: »

He didn't. And you cant speak for him regardless of your life experience.

He made a choice to kill someone. It wasn't an accident, it wasn't caused by his lack of care or attention...he deliberately attacked a teenager and kicked him to death. I don't care if you grew up with parents like Fred and Rosemary West, you have don't use another person as a punch bag. Imagine if that kid was your son or brother? The only sympathy I have is for the family of Niall Dorr.

KungPao

I'm welling up here. Gone too soon.

Only the good die young.

Sleep well, Dougie.

x

Cold War Kid

ygolometsipe wrote: »

He didn't. And you cant speak for him regardless of your life experience.

I'd usually agree with examining why a person would behave as he did, in order to prevent it happening again. And I stick by that.
But they're still ultimately responsible for their actions too. This man was a monster - what he did to that young lad and his family... it's too upsetting to think about.
And is there even evidence that he did have a terrible upbringing? It's not always a given in these situations.

Cold War Kid

KungPao wrote: »

I'm welling up here. Gone too soon.

Only the good die young.

Sleep well, Dougie.

x

hiz wit d anglz nw xxxxxxx

ygolometsipe

eviltwin wrote: »

He made a choice to kill someone.

He was convicted of manslaughter which removes the decision to kill.

eviltwin

ygolometsipe wrote: »

He was convicted of manslaughter which removes the decision to kill.

He made a choice to attack someone. He kicked him in the head. He kept kicking him after he was unresponsive. Manslaughter my arse, it was murder.

No_Comply

ygolometsipe wrote: »

He was convicted of manslaughter which removes the decision to kill.

Just because he was convicted of manslaughter, doesn't mean he didn't choose to kill someone.

Don't be so naive.

AndonHandon

ygolometsipe wrote: »

The death of the younger man is the tragedy in all of this, I agree 100%.

But if his background was better know, it might prevent future killers.

I believe in the whole nurture versus nature thing when it comes to people being scumbags. I also believe that once a scumbag always a scumbag so with anyone who is brought up as a scumbag then it is too late to try and reform them after they grow up so at this point they should be removed from society.

The only way to stop it is to cut it at the source i.e. get them when they're young so they can be influenced as they grow up to not be a scumbag. Scumbags breed scumbags so don't let scumbags breed is one drastic solution.

ygolometsipe

No_Comply wrote: »

Just because he was convicted of manslaughter, doesn't mean he didn't choose to kill someone.

Don't be so naive.

A Jury of 12 people, just as intelligent as you and me, under the guidance
of a judge, examined all the evidence and return a verdict.

They chose manslaughter.

You can argue the law was wrong or it was a miscarriage of justice.
Until then, the verdict stands, that's the law.

Cold War Kid

Even if he didn't intend to kill the lad, he kicked him repeatedly in the head. There was plenty of responsibility and intent there.

KungPao

Cold War Kid wrote: »

hiz wit d anglz nw xxxxxxx

he a angle nw n 4eva
x

end of the road

darkdubh wrote: »

Not too people will be missing this specimen.He commited a brutal unprovoked murder and got off with manslaughter.Recently it was announced that he could be out in a few years due to remission,thankfully that won't be happening now.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0508/699636-prisoner-found-dead-in-mountjoy-prison-cell/

you don't "get off" with manslaughter. if there isn't enough evidence for murder what else can one be charged with. manslaughter is the next best thing

Cienciano

KungPao wrote: »

I'm welling up here. Gone too soon.

Only the good die young.

Sleep well, Dougie.

x

He was our Diana.

Nomis21

ygolometsipe wrote: »

A Jury of 12 people, just as intelligent as you and me, under the guidance
of a judge, examined all the evidence and return a verdict.

They chose manslaughter.

You can argue the law was wrong or it was a miscarriage of justice.
Until then, the verdict stands, that's the law.

According to the article there was no jury. He took a guilty plea to manslaughter. There was difficulty in finding witnesses willing to testify.

end of the road

eviltwin wrote: »

Cry me a river. I had a **** upbringing, I know many people who had worse. We all managed to get through life without killing someone.

the world is not black and white. just because your background didn't effect you doesn't mean it won't others and turn them into low lives

ygolometsipe

Nomis21 wrote: »

According to the article there was no jury. He took a guilty plea to manslaughter. There was difficulty in finding witnesses willing to testify.

I did not see any article only a photo with a summary.
Is it the same link?

I (wrongly) assumed it was a trial.

Cold War Kid

end of the road wrote: »

the world is not black and white. just because your background didn't effect you doesn't mean it won't others and turn them into low lives

That's true but he's still the only one responsible for kicking a young lad to death.
I'll never forget how upsetting the sight of that young man's crying mother and father was. :-/

eviltwin

end of the road wrote: »

the world is not black and white. just because your background didn't effect you doesn't mean it won't others and turn them into low lives

Are we meant to feel sorry for him now or something? Ah God love him he had a hard life, well he's out of it now and good riddance.

_Brian

Did I read he died of a drug overdose and was found with a cup of hooch in his hand.. Seriously too much in the way of freedoms in Irish prisions, how poorly run is a prison when the prisoners are able to brew/distill alcohol.

I read an article online earlier where apparently Ireland's most dangerous criminal had a playstation and a fish tank bought for him. Yet it takes three officers in riot gear to move him he's so aggressive..

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/crime-play-irelands-most-dangerous-5654931


Its a damn joke the privileges these guys are being given or facilitated to have.

I wonder how many people are turning a blind eye to the hooch production :rolleyes:

darkdubh

ygolometsipe wrote: »

He was convicted of manslaughter which removes the decision to kill.

Only because witnesses were too frightened of retribution to come forward,which is the sole reason he was convicted of manslaughter.What he did was cold blooded murder.

Patrick Wheelock

The lads on Rabble won't be happy

silverfeather

An unpleasant person...no horrible. His death will not bring back Niall. It was of natural causes as all deaths should be. Niall's death should have been of natural causes too.

He spent his last days in prison. That is just. It's the type of story that makes you feel sad whatever way you look at it.

ygolometsipe

eviltwin wrote: »

Are we meant to feel sorry for him now or something? Ah God love him he had a hard life, well he's out of it now and good riddance.

No, you should feel sorry for the young man parents.
They are the ones who deserve sympathy and comfort.

That's not the same as taking pleasure in his death.
They are exclusive and can be.

moc moc a moc

Lollipops23 wrote: »

Much as I agree the world is a better place without the thug, he's somebody's kid. Not sure hot I feel about celebrating.

Apologists like you are the reason this piece of waste was out on bail able to murder a teenage boy in the first place.

eviltwin

ygolometsipe wrote: »

No, you should feel sorry for the young man parents.
They are the ones who deserve sympathy and comfort.

That's not the same as taking pleasure in his death.
They are exclusive and can be.

I take no pleasure in his death. He had a family. I am very sorry for his children and the people who loved him. Not being sorry he's dead is not the same as getting pleasure out of it.

Mint Aero

_Brian wrote: »

Did I read he died of a drug overdose and was found with a cup of hooch in his hand.. Seriously too much in the way of freedoms in Irish prisions, how poorly run is a prison when the prisoners are able to brew/distill alcohol.

I read an article online earlier where apparently Ireland's most dangerous criminal had a playstation and a fish tank bought for him. Yet it takes three officers in riot gear to move him he's so aggressive..

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/crime-play-irelands-most-dangerous-5654931


Its a damn joke the privileges these guys are being given or facilitated to have.

I wonder how many people are turning a blind eye to the hooch production :rolleyes:

"84 previous convictions including robberies, 34 assaults"

It's the f*cking electric chair he should be getting, not a playstation!