Madeleine Mc Cann-A social experiment in Manipulation (mod warning first post)

bjork

Mod Warning : This is a conspiracy theory thread and the CT Charter applies (in case you wandered in from AH or something). Thanks!

Here's a theory: Madeline McCann is not the name of a child, but the name of an experiment being carried out by the British government with the aid of the media

What could be evidence?
No evidence of abduction
Many blonde hair girls there hard to tell apart> a witness statement

The ever changing statements of the main players

Children were left alone unsupervised for 6 nights in a row? Hmm?

The selective suing and media manipulation at spinning the story: E'g' the "win" they had the other day.

Kate said she hates the cop more than the abductor? wtf > Is the cop unraveling the story and the abductor never existed?

The return to England for DNA and then the labs making a hash of it.

Interference at high levels from the beginning.
them being awarded 357,000>>The date of her disappearance 03/05/07

Spin doctors and people leaving full time, well paid government jobs to work on the campaign >When she could be found any minute and then it's the dole queue?

A clout of croupt investigators, a mortgage paid out of the fund and a lot of people making a lot of money off the back of a missing child.

Scotland yard saying she was abducted and then heading off to dig the ground 7 years after it had be searched various time

Child protection officers sticking up for their neglect
The refusal of msm to report certain things from the police interviews and their obvious biased agenda



It's a social experiment by the UK government in manipulation of the masses

lakesider

Nah, it was just a cover up of high level kiddie fiddling that went wrong, all the major players were gone out of Luz overnight and MI 5 conducted the clean up op...:mad:

Overheal

For the unfamiliar - present company included:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann

bjork

They paid 500,000 to a media company to keep them on the front page. Something they failed to disclose at the Levision inquiry on media intrusion.

bjork

Digging for Madeleine McCann
30 mins ·
NOTICE: This page has just learned that the Renault Scenic hired by the McCanns with the number plate 59 DA 27 that had been returned to Budget Lagos was damaged. It seems the cars front left door lock had been tampered with. This information was obtained by Stephen D. Birch from an employee of the company AA Castanheira in Faro. It substantiates Stephen Birch's theory that Portuguese Police, friends of Robert Murat broke into the car, and planted dna belonging to MADDIE in the vehicle after removing it off the corpse buried in the Murat property ! The vehicle was hired 25 days after MADDIE went missing.

https://www.facebook.com/diggingformadeleinmccann?fref=photo



This guy has some interesting theories. I think he is going to send a letter to cater ruck accusing Gerry

Hagar7

Read this.......*snip*removed by mod

Dr.Internet

He told how former GP Kate and heart doctor Gerry, both 37, of Rothley, Leics, had moved money from the publicly-backed Find Maddie Fund into a special account in anticipation of having to finance the hunt for their daughter themselves.




http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-ready-continue-6370581


It turns out the money for the search was just resting in the Find Madeleine Fund, it's now being syphoned off it to the real fund to er, find madeleine.

KingMonkey

negative,the parents killed her albeit by accident or intentionally then conspired to cover it up and profit out of it

PeterTheEighth

KingMonkey wrote: »

negative,the parents killed her albeit by accident or intentionally then conspired to cover it up and profit out of it

I've always thought that there was an accident and possibly the parents had sedated the children with some sort of sedative. But if they'd been telling lies, I would have expected Kate McCann to have cracked by now.

the two most fascinating things I've always thought about this case though:
1. The fact that John Stalker thinks the McCanns are "hiding a dark secret"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-490254/McCanns-hiding-big-secret-police-chief-claims.html

and

2. A man from Drogheda claims to have seen Gerry McCann walking down the street holding a little girl and moving towards the beach.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id162.html

blinding

Mad as it is, Does it really matter now. Even "if" the McCanns were involved they have suffered and will suffer for the rest of their lives.

CJmasgrande

Did the Mcanns ever take the lie detector test?

Overheal

polygraphs are notoriously unreliable.

mulbot

Overheal wrote: »

polygraphs are notoriously unreliable.

Didn't Gerry say this about the dogs?

KingMonkey

blinding wrote: »

Mad as it is, Does it really matter now. Even "if" the McCanns were involved they have suffered and will suffer for the rest of their lives.

you're mental,what do u mean does it matter now

There is something like a million + children go missing in the world every year, reality of our everyday thoughts on that is maybe to much to take in.

Her mother believes she still alive.

KingMonkey

anyone who believes that the mccann's are innocent and or are victims in this debacle are totally deluded...there is a weight of evidence against their involvement (feel free to conduct your own research) and the way that they were protected and spirited out of playa del luz after should be enough to convince anyone of their guilt

DamagedTrax

KingMonkey wrote: »

anyone who believes that the mccann's are innocent and or are victims in this debacle are totally deluded...there is a weight of evidence against their involvement (feel free to conduct your own research) and the way that they were protected and spirited out of playa del luz after should be enough to convince anyone of their guilt

The immediate involvement of the government's press office says it all really.

I believe Gerry had some ties to someone important, along with one or two others from the tapas 7. Whether thats in the security services or financial, i dont know.

But i do know that not just anyone gets a government press office at their call within less than 48 hours of their child going 'missing'.

KingMonkey

DamagedTrax wrote: »

The immediate involvement of the government's press office says it all really.

I believe Gerry had some ties to someone important, along with one or two others from the tapas 7. Whether thats in the security services or financial, i dont know.

But i do know that not just anyone gets a government press office at their call within less than 48 hours of their child going 'missing'.

gerry mccanns name was taken off the sex offenders register

look it up

DamagedTrax

KingMonkey wrote: »

gerry mccanns name was taken off the sex offenders register

look it up

i've seen the Rich Hall docu, it covers the case extensively. There is every chance Gerry had some important 'party' friends that needed him kept sweet and schtum.

PeterTheEighth

DamagedTrax wrote: »

i've seen the Rich Hall docu, it covers the case extensively. There is every chance Gerry had some important 'party' friends that needed him kept sweet and schtum.

Yeah that stuff about Doctor David Payne was pretty creepy.

EternalHope

DamagedTrax wrote: »

i've seen the Rich Hall docu, it covers the case extensively. There is every chance Gerry had some important 'party' friends that needed him kept sweet and schtum.

interesting documentary. i do not think much of Grimes dogs. The video of him in the car park shows he had to call them back several times to the car where they then 'found' a scent

EternalHope

KingMonkey wrote: »

gerry mccanns name was taken off the sex offenders register

look it up

not much definite

stoplooklisten

The libel case was overturned and the Mccanns have to pay Admaral 52,000

NIMAN

Rich Hall the comedian?

Anyone got a link to this documentary?

mulbot

NIMAN wrote: »

Rich Hall the comedian?

Anyone got a link to this documentary?

No,a different guy-just do a quick YouTube, rich hall Madeline McCann,it should get you to it

rucksack

NIMAN wrote: »

Rich Hall the comedian?

Anyone got a link to this documentary?

When Hall mentions anyone on the mcanns side he goes into detail about how they have been dishonest.
But when he talks of the policeman he calls him Dr Amaral and does not mention that Amaral was convicted of having falsified police documents and received an 18-month suspended sentence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Joana_Cipriano

I do not say Mcanns are innocent but Hall is not objective. He has an agenda. Here is the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PltuL0ICkzs

Andy Magic

Every summer this story keeps coming back to the news. I've followed it in detail and I believe there is more to come from the parents on this. Hopefully this summer we will get the truth.

stoplooklisten

Well this id odd, I don't really know what to say about it



Revealed: 'Child abuser' Clement Freud befriended the McCanns at his holiday home in Praia da Luz after Madeleine vanished and even teased Kate about being a 'nymphomaniac'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3642312/Kate-Gerry-McCann-horrified-Clement-Freud-child-abuse-claims-emerged-home-Praia-da-Luz-befriended-Madeleine-vanished.html

TonyCliftonEsq

History of abusing young girls and had a holiday home where Madeleine went missing. Then befriends the parents and invites them over for dinner.

Sounds like he was fishing for information as to how the investigation was going.

Only thing is he was supposedly in Britain when she went missing. Perhaps he wasn't behind it but could it be possible he was friends with whoever did take her?

stoplooklisten

TonyCliftonEsq wrote: »

History of abusing young girls and had a holiday home where Madeleine went missing. Then befriends the parents and invites them over for dinner.

Sounds like he was fishing for information as to how the investigation was going.

Only thing is he was supposedly in Britain when she went missing. Perhaps he wasn't behind it but could it be possible he was friends with whoever did take her?

'He had a home in Praia de Luz, but why invite them and cook for them?': THIRD 'sex victim' of Sir Clement Freud reveals she told police of his link to parents of Madeleine McCann - but they failed to investigate

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3643513/Third-victim-Sir-Clement-Freud-comes-forward-allege-raped-calls-knighthood-revoked.html

TonyCliftonEsq

As I said previously, he could have been trying to see what information they had/how the police investigation was going?

It is very, very suspicious.

Marlie

I don't think inviting some troubled fellow UK citizens over for dinner is as suspicious as some other things. Like the missing blanket and bag. Or the fact that Gerry was stood outside the only potential exit at the time that the abductor was supposedly walking up the road. And Gerry's wish that he could have been there at "that moment" when he was.

stoplooklisten

Marlie wrote: »

I don't think inviting some troubled fellow UK citizens over for dinner is as suspicious as some other things. Like the missing blanket and bag. Or the fact that Gerry was stood outside the only potential exit at the time that the abductor was supposedly walking up the road. And Gerry's wish that he could have been there at "that moment" when he was.

I don't know, it seems to be growing legs


Clement Freud drank with Maddie suspect Robert Murat in Praia da Luz bar - and his local pub was dubbed the Plough and Paedo

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3649035/Clement-Freud-drank-Maddie-suspect-Robert-Murat-Praia-da-Luz-bar-local-pub-dubbed-Plough-Paedo.html

Den_M

These are all horrible theories and rather ludicrous. I hope none of you lose a child and have to go through everything that goes with it.

Con theories about aliens, chemtrails and other silly crap seem respectable when compared to poring over the grief of parents and letting your imagination run wild.

Shame on the lot of you

Smondie

Den_M wrote: »

These are all horrible theories and rather ludicrous. I hope none of you lose a child and have to go through everything that goes with it.

Con theories about aliens, chemtrails and other silly crap seem respectable when compared to poring over the grief of parents and letting your imagination run wild.

Shame on the lot of you

What's your theory on it?


I think there has been an accident/murder cover up and people protected because of who they know.

Andy Magic

Den_M wrote: »

These are all horrible theories and rather ludicrous. I hope none of you lose a child and have to go through everything that goes with it.

Con theories about aliens, chemtrails and other silly crap seem respectable when compared to poring over the grief of parents and letting your imagination run wild.

Shame on the lot of you

Let me guess. You only believe what Sky News tells you to believe.. These theories aren't coming from nothing, there is plenty of evidence out there to make you question every aspect of this disappearance and investigation. Time will tell

Smondie

When does a child disappear, never to be seen again, in not horrible circumstances?

jenny smith

I have seen claims that the McCanns body language was seen as all wrong. What does that mean?

Also the car in which the DNA was allegedly found was not hired until about three weeks after Maddie went missing. Where was she in the meantime?

mulbot

jenny smith wrote: »

I have seen claims that the McCanns body language was seen as all wrong. What does that mean?

Also the car in which the DNA was allegedly found was not hired until about three weeks after Maddie went missing. Where was she in the meantime?

Body language can be a sign of nervousness,anxiety etc,but can also be used to tell if a person is lying,uneasy about certain questions etc.

It might not mean she was ever in the car,one possibility is that (if she was killed or died) maybe an item of clothing,or a teddy!! might have been in contact with the body and if that item was then brought into the car,trace DNA could be transferred

jenny smith

mulbot wrote: »

Body language can be a sign of nervousness,anxiety etc,but can also be used to tell if a person is lying,uneasy about certain questions etc.

i know that but not sure what aspects of body language they mean

It might not mean she was ever in the car,one possibility is that (if she was killed or died) maybe an item of clothing,or a teddy!! might have been in contact with the body and if that item was then brought into the car,trace DNA could be transferred

some said it was from shoes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqoj-pfBUnY

i am not pro or anti mccann. i do not know what happened but do not give much credence to dogs. they found blood in the apartment. If i vanished you would probably find my blood in my apartment as i cut myself yesterday

mulbot

jenny smith wrote: »

i know that but not sure what aspects of body language they mean

some said it was from shoes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqoj-pfBUnY

i am not pro or anti mccann. i do not know what happened but do not give much credence to dogs. they found blood in the apartment. If i vanished you would probably find my blood in my apartment as i cut myself yesterday

Plenty of examples of confusing body language in interviews etc.

One of those dogs is a blood dog,the other is a cadaver dog,You might find blood indeed where you cut yourself,however you won't have a dog alerting to the scent of a cadaver unless a dead body has been there.Dogs have no need to tell lies,that's why they're used

Smondie

He held up the pyjamas and started laughing behind the in the middle of making an appeal.

jenny smith

mulbot wrote: »

Plenty of examples of confusing body language in interviews etc.

One of those dogs is a blood dog,the other is a cadaver dog,You might find blood indeed where you cut yourself,however you won't have a dog alerting to the scent of a cadaver unless a dead body has been there.Dogs have no need to tell lies,that's why they're used

and how do they now the dead body was madeline.

Body language can be a sign of nervousness,anxiety etc,but can also be used to tell if a person is lying,uneasy about certain questions etc.

I watched a so called expert say they were lying because while they did not fidget they froze instead. Nonsense she was moving the goal posts should be a 'psychic' instead. i do not know what happened M but no one can tell by body language if someone is lying

as for all theses idiots with their anti mccann blogs playing at being detectives and probably defaming people too. should cop on to themselves and grow up. not their business to investigate and they do not have access to info the police do

mulbot

jenny smith wrote: »

and how do they now the dead body was madeline. I watched a so called expert say they were lying because while they did not fidget they froze instead. Nonsense she was moving the goal posts should be a 'psychic' instead. i do not know what happened M but no one can tell by body language if someone is lying

as for all theses idiots with their anti mccann blogs playing at being detectives and probably defaming people too. should cop on to themselves and grow up. not their business to investigate and they do not have access to info the police do

Oh I'm no detective but I might hazard a guess that surely if the cadaver dog alerted to scent of a body the appropriate steps are, (1)Find out if anybody ever died there, (2) be allowed to collect and analyze whatever sample of DNA they could find,and try match.

seriously?,that's why agencies such as the FBI have departments where experts in body language forward their investigations by decoding body language- Were they not used in the audience,or used to analyze the footage of a major RTE chat show to help nail a wife-killer here a few years ago!!!!!!!!

jenny smith

mulbot wrote: »

Oh I'm no detective but I might hazard a guess that surely if the cadaver dog alerted to scent of a body the appropriate steps are, (1)Find out if anybody ever died there, (2) be allowed to collect and analyze whatever sample of DNA they could find,and try match.

seriously?,that's why agencies such as the FBI have departments where experts in body language forward their investigations by decoding body language- Were they not used in the audience,or used to analyze the footage of a major RTE chat show to help nail a wife-killer here a few years ago!!!!!!!!

Then why did they not call in the FBI? As for the late late show do you have proof of that? Who were the 'experts' and what did they say?. More likely the gardai suspected him anyway from day one. early in the investigation they asked him in a 'casual' "did you have your phone with you all day"?

mulbot

jenny smith wrote: »

Then why did they not call in the FBI? As for the late late show do you have proof of that? Who were the 'experts' and what did they say?. More likely the gardai suspected him anyway from day one. early in the investigation they asked him in a 'casual' "did you have your phone with you all day"?

I've nothing related to the late late thing,just remember they said it was that appearance that confirmed something for them. Well,it was only a few days after her disappearance that the British decided to take control of matters in Madeline McCann,So who knows what external forces were asked for help before that. Body language interpretation is a widely used technique in many situations,obviously for a reason

jenny smith

mulbot wrote: »

I've nothing related to the late late thing,just remember they said it was that appearance that confirmed something for them. Well,it was only a few days after her disappearance that the British decided to take control of matters in Madeline McCann,So who knows what external forces were asked for help before that. Body language interpretation is a widely used technique in many situations,obviously for a reason

Body language as in the Meyer on McCanns is rubbish. No matter what they did they were lying. I do not know if it has any scientific underpinnings

I've nothing related to the late late thing,just remember they said it was that appearance that confirmed something for them.

that is meaningless. They ?Who. And anything on the late show would hadly be evidence. it was the phone records that hung him. Early in the investigation when he did not realise the significance of it he was asked if he had his phone all day and said yes

mulbot

jenny smith wrote: »

Body language as in the Meyer on McCanns is rubbish. No matter what they did they were lying. I do not know if it has any scientific underpinnings

that is meaningless. They ?Who. And anything on the late show would hadly be evidence. it was the phone records that hung him. Early in the investigation when he did not realise the significance of it he was asked if he had his phone all day and said yes

The O Reilly thing I can't really remember,there was some profiler from the FBI who gave his view on the body language during the interview.

I've no idea of scientific meanings of it,but if it's used in police forces etc then it has some substance I'd believe,

jenny smith

mulbot wrote: »

The O Reilly thing I can't really remember,there was some profiler from the FBI who gave his view on the body language during the interview.

I've no idea of scientific meanings of it,but if it's used in police forces etc then it has some substance I'd believe,

Did you see O'Reilly on the LLS? I didn't and it is not online as far as i know. Was he in the audience?

mulbot

jenny smith wrote: »

Did you see O'Reilly on the LLS? I didn't and it is not online as far as i know. Was he in the audience?

No he was being interviewed that night

jenny smith

mulbot wrote: »

No he was being interviewed that night

Here is a screenshot the video does not seem to be available. He is sitting forward so is PK

At 55 secs in here are parents who really lost a child. They are holding hands just like the McCanns which in the latter case is deemed bad body language. The Meyer spoofer says it is easy to spot movements when you to look for them