Cork Airport - *Read Mod Note in First Post Before Posting*

TheBrownBird32

It might not even happen, I’ve just been told they’re looking into it but it’s still early to tell what will happen. Definitely a weird choice when FR is operating it only once weekly next summer.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122747482#Comment_122747482

Ryanair only relaunched it for W23/24 aswell. Surprised they didnt do it before. Even Shannon has it two weekly during the summer.

TheBrownBird32

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122747676#Comment_122747676

Either way EI will definitely be expanding in Cork due to the cap in Dublin even if they don’t want to admit it, it will most likely be only 3 routes and I if I was to guess I would say Lisbon, possibly Paris and Brussels, I highly doubt Izmir or Fuerteventura will happen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122747743#Comment_122747743

3 routes is great though. Cork is booming.

JCX BXC

Lads, remember these routes are only rumours from here. No sign of any announcement as of yet.

Also, if this is true would it not also make the rumour about Shannon more plausible?

New routes mean little, they're headlines but often they only last a limited time at a limited frequency. Airports see much longer and better connectivity through daily+ flights to hubs.

It's about sustainable growth for regionals, not a competition with other airports in the West. Every bit of increased connectivity is a benefit for the whole of the country.

Worth noting that airlines make new routes, and airports have next to no say about them. Only time airport gets a say is during discussions on fees.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122747771#Comment_122747771

Apologies i do agree.

The rumour about Shannon i do think has some truth to it. Faro looks to be coming back. Cathal Crowe has mentioned briefly a November announcement. What the announcement is, I dont know.

snotboogie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122747743#Comment_122747743

For reference here are the EI routes from 2008, highlighted routes still served by EI and italics cities no longer served by the airport at all, as even back then EI tried to avoid competing with Ryanair:

EI: Alicante, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Berlin-Schönefeld, Birmingham, Faro, London-Heathrow, Jersey, Malaga, Manchester, Munich, Nice, Paris-Charles de Gaulle, Prague, Rome-Fiumicino

AerArann: Belfast-City, Brest, Bristol, Cardiff, Dublin, Edinburgh, Galway, La Rochelle, Leeds-Bradford, Lorient, Nantes, Southampton

DylanQuestion

Berlin, Prague and Cardiff are such obvious, easy wins. Dublin is equally an easy win too, given the train and bus would never be able to compete with the short flight time. Belfast would be ideal for similar reasons, but I imagine Brexit complicates that a little more. The complication with Dublin would be the fact it doesn’t bring you to the city. The train gets you close enough via the Luas, and the bus stops in the middle of the city

I wonder what demand was like for those domestic routes before, especially Belfast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122749433#Comment_122749433

Cardiff maybe obvious but Emerald dont fly there. So your only hope would be Ryanair. I dont see a Cork-Dublin route happening. There is no suitable carrier to operate it.

Acosta

Don't really get the appeal of a Dublin flight, unless you're getting another flight from there. Between driving to the airport, going through security, waiting to board, boarding the flight, the flight itself, getting through Dublin airport and getting a bus into town, you'd be quicker driving up or getting the bus or train. In saying that, I did use it a few times when It was there. On both Aer Arann and Ryanair. The last time I had a 2 or 3 hour delay coming back. That was a head fu*k.

lordleitrim

Pre motorway and stuck in traffic jams in Abbeyleix, Kildare town, Monasterevin, Fermoy etc, it was a viable option to fly between ORK and DUB but as Acosta said, adding up all the other time consuming variables, doing so now is not worth the hassle and minimal if any time savings. I drive regularly between Dublin and Kerry and it takes 3.5 hours. People ask why I don't fly the 55 minute trip to Farranfore but adding in the before and afters as Acosta outlined, I still wouldn't fly unless I was connecting onwards to another destination for a handful of actual minutes saved.

marno21

The only viable DUB-ORK route would be a connecting service to EI's transatlantic services. There'd be reams of Green rameis about such a service but it'd likely cut the airmiles of passengers currently doing a routing such as ORK-LHR-JFK or ORK-AMS-JFK.

As @lordleitrim pointed out, the M8 motorway has made a point to point service redundant.

Nigel Fairservice

I used to fly up and down to Dublin in 2007 when I was working there. My family home is near Cork airport so I didn't have to get up too early before the flight. If you were flying domestically you could use fast track security for no additional cost. I'd get the 6:30 am flight on Monday and I'd be at my desk in Dublin before 9 if I got the 747 bus into town via the port tunnel. A return flight used to be cheaper than a return train ticket if you booked early enough.

lisasimpson

It bugs me the calls for the Dublin flight to return. There are plenty options to Dublin now and have motorway and luas park and ride from red cow etc. I did use the flight a few times when it was there. Use to live near the airport and was handy for matches in croke park. But of the opinion there are higher priority routes instead now

DylanQuestion

I agree with all of your reasons against Dublin. Do people feel the same about Belfast? Although there may not even be demand for that

lisasimpson

Possible demand for Belfast but think there is bigger demand elsewhere. It's a popular weekend spot and there is a lot more tourist offering up there since it was last serviced. Be handy for people who like their gigs too as artist often do Dublin and Belfast when gigging here and probably cheaper to stay over in Belfast rather than Dublin.

Chris_5339762

Cork - Belfast would be a useful addition as it is an awful haul to get up there, and is remarkably messy to do on public transport.

TheBrownBird32

Cork to Izmir flights are on sale now, one way flights starting at €550💀

lordleitrim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122752762#Comment_122752762

One way??? Cue 100s of additional pax getting the bus to DUB to fly to Izmir for less than half the price...

hans aus dtschl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122751590#Comment_122751590

Yeah I'd prefer AMS, CDG or LHR for the transfers over Dublin tbh. Well… CDG is debatable but you know what I mean.

TheBrownBird32

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122752783#Comment_122752783

Yup. Has to be some error surely

hans aus dtschl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122752647#Comment_122752647

It's very tough by rail alright. But the demand would be just too small. When you consider there's very little connectivity with Germany, I think I'd prefer that. Or even just an increase to year-round on Munich and Zurich would be good.

snotboogie

The Reddit leaker, who predicted the Glasgow flight and the extra Aerlingus plane (to be confirmed obvs) back in May said that Emerald were looking at basing a plane in Cork possibly starting winter 25 and that Dublin, London City and Southampton were the routes being targeted.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122752762#Comment_122752762

Sunway will be blocking seats off that flight. They will be doing Kusadasi holidays.

markodaly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122752762#Comment_122752762

Ludicrous price

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122752813#Comment_122752813

It is a error. If u try actually book a flight it shows the right price.

One adult is 490€ return for a week in july

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122752836#Comment_122752836

do u have a link to that?

notAMember

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122751590#Comment_122751590

Yes, sometimes it makes sense if it's part of another route but generally not. I used to see this a long time ago when I was working in Wales. There was a Cardiff → Bristol - Basel return route… A flight from cardiff to bristol is nonsense, it's take-off and land again. Effectively you just stayed on the plane, like a bus, and it was their way of creating a direct Cardiff - Basel route. You see the same thing with some island routes in remote places. It didn't last for wales. And I don't think Cork - Dublin would either unless it was a really high demand extension of another route.

Fully agree extension and broadening of existing routes would be more use than the headliners and proof-of-concept new routes we see. As an example those 2 or 3 times a week cork-zurich flights are booked solid (and overbooked) from march to september every year when they are released, and the cost goes expectedly bonkers with the demand pricing. 700 each way we've forked out for those for business flights sometimes at short notice. Worse again, still don't get on the flight with overbooking, get bumped, refunded and end up high-tailing to dublin to catch another extortionate flight. Really disruptive and costly for customers. You'd get to san francisco for cheaper and less stress. Doing those types of high demand flight all year, and/or more often seems like a no-brainer. Especially as people are connecting from hubs like paris and zurich to all over the place with both train and air.

snotboogie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122753072#Comment_122753072

https://www.reddit.com/r/cork/s/zEDGKTFJFd

Acosta

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122753186#Comment_122753186

Stopping Zurich for the winter is indeed a head scratcher. On-top of people using it for work, city breaks and transitting to elsewhere, you also have people that would use it for a ski holiday.