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Strumms

England win the toss and bat, one change, Wood in for Robinson. Bumrah having been rested returns & Padikkalin on debut in for India…

plenty of swing and movement off the seam so far. Pitch here so notorious for deteriorating…

only 11° at the start of play and the shots of the pavilion and the winter arctic clothing the English are watching on in suggests it’s feeling colder…

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3 gone

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175 for 4 now (Bairstow gone)

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Oooh 189 for 8 (Bashir 4 / Foakes 5)

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Kuldeep 5 for 72

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England 218 all out (5 for Kuldeep and 4 for Ashwin)

now it will be interesting to see how India bats … if England can get a couple of wickets today then it’s the pitch otherwise England batted really poorly/India bowled really well

MFPM

The spirit of Broad is alive and well, England trying to get the ball changed after 6 overs of the Indian innings!!

MFPM

Long way to go but this is looking ominous for England.

Strumms

They look goosed and some... unless they can with their bowling attack influence a collapse..

VillaMad

Another bad hour for England in this series and their middle order collapses in a heap again. Test pretty much over already you would have to think.

dohboy

Fairly abysmal by England today. A heavy defeat will really wipe whatever sheen there was from a tour that had positives.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121860596#Comment_121860596

Strumms, give 'em hell, you finally have jurisdiction... 😜

Strumms

New Zealand vs Australia about to start, Aussies win the toss and will bowl.

New Zealand require the victory to tie the two test 😏 series. Weather looks conducive to facilitating all three possible outcomes so this should be interesting…..

Mysterypunter

Listening on Radio New Zealand, SEZN Radio. Funny lot them Kiwis. They mentioned the umpire Fred Goodall who died a while ago. Talking about him as if he was some sort of genius. The chap was biased and corrupt, deaf dumb and blind. Singlehandedly won the home series against West Indies with his ridiculous decisions. New Zealand just lost Young for 14, 47/1 now, and Williamson in to bat in his 100th test

Strumms

61/2 now, faintest of edges doing for Latham…..

Hazlewood bowling excellently…. Their own ground but NZ after a decent start all of a sudden having difficulty negotiating the swing and seaming pitch.

Mysterypunter

71/3 Ravindra out, New Zealand falling to bits again

Strumms

Just 4 balls before lunch ? Awful shot really in fairness….

MFPM

83/4...Australia on top. Can Williamson get NZ back into the game?

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121863814#Comment_121863814

gone, you cursed him MFPM 😉

84/5… long tail after Phillips, Kugegelin on his day might give ya a few runs, he has domestic hundreds but not a fifty in any of his international outings as yet.

Strumms

107/8… unless the aging NZ bowling attack find some sort of Phoenix from the flames like transformational U turn when it’s their turn to bowl, the test and series is done.

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India 246 for 1 (Rohit 94 / Gill 91)

MFPM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121863829#Comment_121863829

Yeah, should have said nothing. His record against Australia is poor. Decent fightback by NZ bowlers.

MFPM

I'd imagine India will look to very big here and try bat once, either way England look done here.

MFPM

Rohit goes to Stokes first ball after lunch...cue usual Stokes hyperbole!

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Rohit Sharma on 103, BenStokes with the ball in his hand after almost a year, and what a first ball, Rohit Sharma clean bowled by Ben Stokes … magic

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… and Anderson gets Gill in the next over - 2 new comers at the crease now - chance for England to get back into the game

MFPM

England toil all morning for nothing then get two quick wickets. They're not back in the game but it stalls India's momentum.

Mysterypunter

India scoring at 4.3 without many risks. England scored at 3.78. Slogball is failing

MFPM

Khan really coming to the party here after a slow start, big 6 off Wood. Lead up to 134.

Mysterypunter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121864138#Comment_121864138

He has a few gears, looks a decent find

MFPM

Another wicket immediately at the start of a session for England. Lead up to 168. Nice way to go to 50 for Padikkal, 6 off Bashir.

MFPM

Bashir bowls Padikkar for 65. Great ball. Lead now 185.

Furze99

Look at the scorecard, first five Indian batsmen all get 50s and 2 centuries in there.

Only one English batsman in first 5 gets a 50 and no centuries.

The English goose is well and truly cooked. Their tactics and ability to graft, stay in the game shown to be very flaky.

Gillespy

Feel sorry for Bashir and Hartley. It's a different game if England made 400, bit of scoreboard pressure and it puts some wear on the pitch. Their job would be made so much easier. England's senior batsmen have let them down this series. Crawley and Duckett have got them off to a strong start nearly every time and they have failed to build on it.

Strumms

Yep. Chink of light for NZ now. Get rid of the night watchman quickly and then they need just 5 more….

the confidence of the NZ batsmen will be low so them looking to chase even 190/200…. dunno if I’d be rushing into paddy power to back them… interesting night’s cricket ahead either way….

Strumms

Wonder what sort of lead NZ can establish ? They’ve bowled exceptionally and fielded on the whole quite well, just the one bad drop… looks like they’ll only have to chase a double digit deficit after all and then trying to post a competitive total shall be interesting….. exciting evening and couple of days ahead…

Mysterypunter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868536#Comment_121868536

Might not establish any lead, could be 80 all out.

Xander10

England's openners gone for 2 runs. India probably won't have to bat again this series

Royale with Cheese

700 for Anderson at last. Surely he'll retire after the summer now, getting those last few wickets to get to 700 was a bit of a slog for him.

MFPM

England in the mire. Might no make it to day 4. Ashwin has 4, so many of the Indian bowlers have really stepped up when needed this series. Eng 103/5 - 156 behind.

MFPM

NZ lead by 40 with 8 wickets in hand. If they could set Australia 250+ it could be interesting but given their record its hard to see it happening, loads of time in the game too.

MFPM

Foakes gone. Ashwin gets 5. England 6 down.

MFPM

Stupid review that!

MFPM

Bumrah comes to the party, Hartley and Wood fall to him. Can he take Root again?

MFPM

Bashir did well there to stick around and score a dew runs. England 9 down, the end is nigh. Can Anderson stick around to let Root get 100?

MFPM

Root out, Kuldeep takes the wicket, Bumrah takes the catch. Innings defeat for England. Great performance by India.

Mysterypunter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868666#Comment_121868666

That didn't happen, but New Zealand never look far from a collapse. The pitch is supposed to get easier for batting on day 3. Baffled by the New Zealand commentators saying Will Young looks like a test player when he doesn't really. Looks like a good player from time to time, but they are taking the sight from our eyes from what I can see. Even contest now and New Zealand might have to get another 230-240

Strumms

An innings and 64 run defeat for the English. 4-1 series defeat.

hardly laid a glove on India aside from the one victory…

they’re going to be really disappointed with every facet of their performance out there. Batting especially, very few standout moments,

New Zealand vs Australia is interesting, NZ going well after a disastrous first innings, I’d say they’ll be hopeful of setting Aus a target of around 260…. Have wickets in hand to do it but you never know, be an interesting watch tonight.

Gillespy

Fully deserving winners are India. They are such a juggernaut at home they can cope with missing an all time great in Kohli. And big established players like KL, Pant and Shami. Future is bright with Jaiswal and Gill as well as Safaraz and Jurel. Attack was as relentless as always in home conditions.

In the main, England did fine. A lot of good days and memorable performances. Young spinners did better than anyone expected. Just a few too many underperforming batsmen and collapses that cost them promising positions.

VillaMad

Typical end of tour England where they just don't want to be there anymore. Always hear the same after a tour like this when they say they have much to ponder but they still end up naming practically the same side when their home tests resume.

I think they should start to bring in a couple of new players, particularly in the batting. I think with Bairstow getting to 100 tests now, that should be his time to move on. Hard to justify Ollie Pope being a certain starter as well when he continues to look frenetic and then gets out. At 26 now and having played over 40 tests, he really should becoming a future leader of the side but he doesn't really look any better since his first test match. Harry Brook obviously should come back in but they should also be looking at the likes of Bohannon, Rew, Hain and even Ollie Robinson (Kent) as a possible keeper if Foakes continues to be underwhelming as a batter. So if it was me, I would drop Pope and Bairstow, put Bohannon at 3 and bring Brook in at 5.

Bowling is a concern as they don't have obvious solutions. I'd imagine Anderson will continue on this summer and now try to get past Shane Warne, but he is probably one injury away from retirement. Potts should be back in contention after a good tour of India with the Lions, whilst Josh Tongue was ok last summer. They really could do with finding a fast bowler as the county championship is littered with medium/fast bowlers who need conditions to aid them.

I don't know whether I would pick Leach again simply because, he always either gets injured innocuously or he has some sort of medical condition. Bashir should be given the chance now to get a run in the side and see how he gets on.

Stokes is a huge issue also. Didn't score runs and only bowled when it became irrelevant. In modern test sides with the pace of the game, you have to have all-rounders. You look at Australia now and they have Green and Marsh to compliment the 4 main guys, and they simply never let up and you don't get a easy period as an opposing batter. All 3 India spinners can contribute with the bat and that makes life so much harder for the opposition. Of course Stokes is the first on the teamsheet as a captain, but if he isn't scoring runs, he sticks out like a sore thumb in the side. Normally England have dealt with this problem by going back and giving the gloves to Bairstow to add in another bowler but there has to be better solution than that.

Strumms

Given its West Indies and Sri Lanka next summer I’d be really surprised if England don’t try a few new players during those series. If I’m a coach I’d just be determined to potentially sacrifice results over developing the side. Ample opportunity during those games…

It will be depressing for an English fan if the squads are rolled out and the likes of ‘Leachy’ who is in fact 33 next summer is included…..played a rake of test cricket and averages 2.06 wickets per test innings, is injury prone , was in the Ashes and again this series…

big ask but probably could do with a batsman, maybe a wicket keeper who can bat say an average over 33 and two new fast bowlers. On the subject of wicketkeepers Foakes has had ample opportunities but despite a couple of test hundreds his average after 24 tests is 29.91….basically meaning he isn’t good enough or reliable enough to bat at 6. Early 30’s so he won’t improve…..Bairstow is turning 35 so that kinda rules him out….

a lot of thinking and planning and decisions for the English management.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121870220#Comment_121870220

You'd think that Stokes position should be under serious question. All very well talking the talk, but if you don't deliver then curtains. Heard he was bigging the team up again after this drubbing. Maybe someone needs to deflate him and say bye, bye.