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The Beer Market Pub, Christ Church

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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Mmmmm... €7 pints


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,093 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    hfallada wrote: »
    Im from Dublin and I have yet to go to a bar in Dublin, other than Wetherspoons where pints are less than €5.

    I'd say that outside the city centre stout under 5.00 is very common.


    Lowe's near the Coombe charge 4.30.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Just a little Samba


    Geuze wrote: »
    I'd say that outside the city centre stout under 5.00 is very common.


    Lowe's near the Coombe charge 4.30.

    But the bar is in the city centre...


  • Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭lk67


    Heading there next weekend and looking forward to it.

    Did I miss where a pricelist went up?


  • Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭snowblind


    Geuze wrote: »
    Zoigl in Franconia is 1.80 - 2.00 for 50cl in a pub.

    Landbier in Nurnberg pubs is 2.50 - 3.50.

    Taxes.

    Might as well be comparing gas prices in here and the states. More comparable countries are UK, Nordics, Italy etc.

    Even in the states beers vary from cheap as a chip to 50$ a bottle. What happens then is magical - I had a choice to spend my money as I wished. I didn't buy a 50$ bottle, and I didn't complain about the price of it either. And there was so much different stuff available, bottle shops with 60+ growler taps and thousands of different bottles of beer in the middle of Alabama. If Diageo had a stronghold there and there was a 5$/pint invented cap, they'd probably just serve sierra nevada and founders and fat tire. Which is not bad compared to 10 years ago but the reason why craft beer is so interesting is variety.

    I might be able to buy a bottle of Pinot Noir in spar for a 7€ and it might be 2€ in Italy, but neither of those will ever be a Barolo.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 270 ✭✭finatron


    The idea of this bar and bars like it is to provide the best and most interesting beers they can . To tasts these beers you have to expect to pay for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 697 ✭✭✭Saruwatari


    So what day exactly are they opening? Seems vague


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,787 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut




  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    Wait, wait, WAIT. Am I reading right? Is everything a fiver???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭billythefish99


    Lads this is a specialist beer bar selling rare and high quality beer. The constant droning on about prices is annoying. If you are the sort of person who doesnt want to pay more than 5 euro for 568mls of beer then go somewhere else, this bar is not for you. Luckily there are thousands more in the country. I dont understand the constant need to come onto threads like this one and post page after page of moaning about prices.

    I was in Mikkeller in Copenhagen a few weeks ago drinking beer which was costing me between 15-18 euro a pint. It was fantastic and Id go back in a flash.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    I'm not complaining about the price at all. Just want confirmation that everything's a fiver.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭billythefish99


    dregin wrote: »
    I'm not complaining about the price at all. Just want confirmation that everything's a fiver.

    It isnt


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    listermint wrote: »
    The location is a bit.. meh or is that me, i think ive drank down that direction about twice in my life. relatively soulless part since mother red caps went down.

    You couldn't be more wrong. The Thomas House is one of the best pubs around.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    It isnt

    Ah well! Can't wait to see how it goes for em!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,093 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    snowblind wrote: »
    Taxes.

    Might as well be comparing gas prices in here and the states. More comparable countries are UK, Nordics, Italy etc.

    Note that after the excise rebate, for small breweries, the excise here is about 25-30c per pint.

    It is low, but not zero, in Germany.

    VAT here is 23%, vs 19% in Germany.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Lads this is a specialist beer bar selling rare and high quality beer. The constant droning on about prices is annoying. If you are the sort of person who doesnt want to pay more than 5 euro for 568mls of beer then go somewhere else, this bar is not for you. Luckily there are thousands more in the country. I dont understand the constant need to come onto threads like this one and post page after page of moaning about prices.

    I was in Mikkeller in Copenhagen a few weeks ago drinking beer which was costing me between 15-18 euro a pint. It was fantastic and Id go back in a flash.

    Mikkeller is great alright, was there a couple of weeks ago myself....heard some dubs at a table....:P

    That's fine as a one off, but I seriously feel there's a touch of the emperor's new clothes beyond a certain point. The same way I would never pay more than a certain amount for a meal. It's needless, and tbh wasteful.

    Anyway, it's not up to anyone only themselves what they charge, but don't expect it to be praised just because. If I think it's a rip off well then that's what I'll say. Better to drink and be merry than worry what I shhite on about anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 270 ✭✭finatron


    Lads this is a specialist beer bar selling rare and high quality beer. The constant droning on about prices is annoying. If you are the sort of person who doesnt want to pay more than 5 euro for 568mls of beer then go somewhere else, this bar is not for you. Luckily there are thousands more in the country. I dont understand the constant need to come onto threads like this one and post page after page of moaning about prices.

    I was in Mikkeller in Copenhagen a few weeks ago drinking beer which was costing me between 15-18 euro a pint. It was fantastic and Id go back in a flash.

    I second this, most of the threads here end up about price and while price is important I don't don't think it should be the overriding theme of this thread. bars like this are about the beer the price is just a judgement call you'll have to make once your there.
    If you want to try these enough beers you'll pay.


  • Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭lk67


    lk67 wrote: »
    Heading there next weekend and looking forward to it.

    Did I miss where a pricelist went up?

    Still looking for that pricelist that many seem to be aware of. Do I take it it doesn't exist yet people are just guessing?

    Also 330ml is a perfect volume for us beer tickers. It truly is the Goldilocks size imo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,469 ✭✭✭squonk


    The bar sounds a lot like the Holburn Whippet in London. There, rather than numbers, they've got a central brick chimney type area with taps prodtruding and, above the taps, are small chalboards that the bar guys update as needed once barrels run out and new ones are switched in.

    That being said, if the beer is really good, e.g. Mikkeller standard, than €5/€6 for 330 ml isn't all that bad. Mikkellers beers are quite heaving going so you wouldn't really want a pint IMHO. I do get the impression that some ofthe Craft pubs operate like Apple Stores however. Apple produce nice gear but at a 40% profit margin. Those that like Apple pay the insane prices and don't quibble. Those who aren't convinced don't but have the option of buying last yar's model ether second hand or new at a lower price point. You can't do that with beer however which all ends up as the same yellow, unpallatable liquid in the end, be it Miller or Mikkeller! :).

    My point is that I might pay €50 for a steak, and when I have it's been excellent and memorable but it's something I'll treat myself to once a year if even. Paying €5 and upwards to drinks becomes a very expensive night very quickly.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,787 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    squonk wrote: »
    My point is that I might pay €50 for a steak, and when I have it's been excellent and memorable but it's something I'll treat myself to once a year if even. Paying €5 and upwards to drinks becomes a very expensive night very quickly.
    I usually just have one or two €50 steaks on a night out, then switch to burgers and bolognese if I'm staying out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    I cook my steaks at home sometimes, and while they aren't as nice as what you get in Shanhan's, they are still pretty good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭billythefish99


    squonk wrote: »
    Paying €5 and upwards to drinks becomes a very expensive night very quickly.
    5 quid is not expensive though? If I go to Beermarket and have 4 world class beers over an hour and a half or two hours for 20-25 quid thats value in my book. Bars like this are not for drinking litres and litres of beer in, any more than Mikkeller is. People keep trying to apply the "traditional Irish pub" model to everything, thats not what this is. Its a bar for beer geeks, not for the ordinary joe soap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    5 quid is not expensive though? If I go to Beermarket and have 4 world class beers over an hour and a half or two hours for 20-25 quid thats value in my book. Bars like this are not for drinking litres and litres of beer in, any more than Mikkeller is. People keep trying to apply the "traditional Irish pub" model to everything, thats not what this is. Its a bar for beer geeks, not for the ordinary joe soap.

    I bet that's the model they are aiming for. I suppose there pressure will to keep unique and different beer that other importers/bars will have not have


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    There is immense pressure on the breweries to produce "one offs" and "specials" for the Growler scene, I know of two off licences that were very, very reticent to put in an expensive Growler system without the promise of regular irregular beers to sell.

    I think they also get this pressure from the craft beer pubs too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭billythefish99


    There is immense pressure on the breweries to produce "one offs" and "specials" for the Growler scene, I know of two off licences that were very, very reticent to put in an expensive Growler system without the promise of regular irregular beers to sell.

    I think they also get this pressure from the craft beer pubs too.

    This is a good thing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭symbolic


    Looking forward to checking this place out. Beer only sounds great!

    What's the point in the numbers at the customer side of the taps?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    symbolic wrote: »

    What's the point in the numbers at the customer side of the taps?


    order by number, there is list of beers with associated numbers above the bar


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    Are they going to force people to do this?

    "I'll have a six, a seven and a nine please".

    Er , nope, I want to order my beer by name, same as I do in every other pub I've ever been into. Don't try to force some weird system onto me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Are they going to force people to do this?

    "I'll have a six, a seven and a nine please".

    Er , nope, I want to order my beer by name, same as I do in every other pub I've ever been into. Don't try to force some weird system onto me.

    Dont know, but the model looks like it's trying to brake away from your standard pub format


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭slayerking


    Sounds similar to a chinese take away.... order by number, drink in or take away.


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