Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread

Suckler

sjb25 wrote: »

This Lunatic has some faith in a chain

https://www.facebook.com/1614084985472693/posts/2217630385118147/

Even walks in front of the tractor.

9935452

Sheepman2 wrote: »

Whats best single rotor rake to go for for contracting so? Ideally put 2 10ft's into 20ft's.

We have a single rotor rake .
It does the job but arent the best .
There is too much travelling with them.
To make a 20 or 25 ft swarth you need to do 2 passes. With 2 wagons or balers after you you cant keep up or need a massive head start.
For the baler it can be hard to make an even swarth with them especially if the grass is light and you want to put together 40 or 50 ft of grass. One side can be heavier than the other and the bales are lobsided.
But what we did find it handy for we have a field which has a couple of acres that are too steep and akward to pick with the wagon. Always had to go bake with the baler to bale 20 or 25 bales. Then back to wrap and draw them.
This year used the rake and brought the grass up the hill onto safe ground to pick for the pit. Took a pair few passes but well worth it

oxjkqg

9935452 wrote: »

We have a single rotor rake .
It does the job but arent the best .
There is too much travelling with them.
To make a 20 or 25 ft swarth you need to do 2 passes. With 2 wagons or balers after you you cant keep up or need a massive head start.
For the baler it can be hard to make an even swarth with them especially if the grass is light and you want to put together 40 or 50 ft of grass. One side can be heavier than the other and the bales are lobsided.
But what we did find it handy for we have a field which has a couple of acres that are too steep and akward to pick with the wagon. Always had to go bake with the baler to bale 20 or 25 bales. Then back to wrap and draw them.
This year used the rake and brought the grass up the hill onto safe ground to pick for the pit. Took a pair few passes but well worth it

Find the more times you turn it though the more lumpy it gets

patsy_mccabe

sjb25 wrote: »

This Lunatic has some faith in a chain

https://www.facebook.com/1614084985472693/posts/2217630385118147/

Someone like that should be reported for their own safety.

ganmo

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Someone like that should be reported for their own safety.

I wonder what age the person holding the camera is

cute geoge

Noveight wrote: »

Question about the raking lads.

If you'd a man driving your rake with his own tractor, what'd be the easiest/fairest way to pay him?

X amount per acre?
X amount per hour?
X amount per bale raked?

110hp on a 20ft so far from strenuous going diesel-wise.

Surely the fairest way is price per hour ,would a tractor burn 6 litres of diesel /hour at raking .So give or take €5 diesel cost ,labour €12 and tractor use ,i suppose would €10/hour cover it ,so i would say €27-28/hour .
There is a big difference raking heavy 1st cut and light paddocks/3rd cut though .You would have a tractor nicely opened up for heavy 1st cut .Would a 20 ft rake many acres in a hour ,I would think 5/6 acres average/hour including travelling between jobs ,so you would be lucky to collect €50/hour!!!

Noveight

cute geoge wrote: »

Surely the fairest way is price per hour ,would a tractor burn 6 litres of diesel /hour at raking .So give or take €5 diesel cost ,labour €12 and tractor use ,i suppose would €10/hour cover it ,so i would say €27-28/hour .
There is a big difference raking heavy 1st cut and light paddocks/3rd cut though .You would have a tractor nicely opened up for heavy 1st cut .Would a 20 ft rake many acres in a hour ,I would think 5/6 acres average/hour including travelling between jobs ,so you would be lucky to collect €50/hour!!!

Thanks for that, loads of info there.

Trying to suss if it’s worth putting a rake going for next year. ~15k for the machine itself plus maybe €25/hour to pay a man to drive it adds up, all the while you can’t charge the customer more per bale.

Must do some more sums and see.

cute geoge

Noveight wrote: »

Thanks for that, loads of info there.

Trying to suss if it’s worth putting a rake going for next year. ~15k for the machine itself plus maybe €25/hour to pay a man to drive it adds up, all the while you can’t charge the customer more per bale.

Must do some more sums and see.

The real gain you will make is that your baler will only be travelling half the ground ,surely you could pick up a cheap old tractor for the rake and get a young lad for €10/hour!!
Nearly all farmers will pay for raking if they get benefit of dryer bales ,but you will need a tight eye on forecast ,no point raking wet grass that is when the farmer will be slow paying

Reggie.

Noveight wrote: »

Thanks for that, loads of info there.

Trying to suss if it’s worth putting a rake going for next year. ~15k for the machine itself plus maybe €25/hour to pay a man to drive it adds up, all the while you can’t charge the customer more per bale.

Must do some more sums and see.

Is there no one in the area that runs a rake that you could get in? What are you baling with?

Noveight

Reggie. wrote: »

Is there no one in the area that runs a rake that you could get in? What are you baling with?

Nobody we could really rely on. 1-2 lads who have a rake but are also working 9-5 jobs, so between their jobs and their own few existing customers they wouldn't have a huge capacity to take on more. There's a lad who'd supply a tractor and drive it himself alright, but that'd add nicely to the cost of it.

Two F5500's baling 9'6 rows.

Reggie.

Noveight wrote: »

Nobody we could really rely on. 1-2 lads who have a rake but are also working 9-5 jobs, so between their jobs and their own few existing customers they wouldn't have a huge capacity to take on more. There's a lad who'd supply a tractor and drive it himself alright, but that'd add nicely to the cost of it.

Two F5500's baling 9'6 rows.

I know the fusion 3 likes 7.2m rows. That's what I'm in front of mostly

older by the day

Noveight wrote: »

Thanks for that, loads of info there.

Trying to suss if it’s worth putting a rake going for next year. ~15k for the machine itself plus maybe €25/hour to pay a man to drive it adds up, all the while you can’t charge the customer more per bale.

Must do some more sums and see.

Neighbour is charging 10 to 15 Euro an acre for raking. I just double swarth it when the grass is DRY, the land can be rough and you can get a lot of sods and stones in the head feed after the rake.. Ya I have a roller but you know yourself

roosterman71

older by the day wrote: »

Neighbour is charging 10 to 15 Euro an acre for raking. I just double swarth it when the grass is DRY, the land can be rough and you can get a lot of sods and stones in the head feed after the rake.. Ya I have a roller but you know yourself

The going rate around me is €10 an acre + VAT

Reggie.

roosterman71 wrote: »

The going rate around me is €10 an acre + VAT

I'm €10 inc and lads still bitch

roosterman71

Reggie. wrote: »

I'm €10 inc and lads still bitch

Ya need to be dropping them lads, let them off and source someone else for the same price or better. If they do, lucky them, otherwise they be back

Noveight

Reggie. wrote: »

I know the fusion 3 likes 7.2m rows. That's what I'm in front of mostly

None of the silage we'd bale would be tedded so doubling up the two 9 foot rows would suit grand.

Has anyone any experience of the likes of these? Seems like they'd do the job of doubling up our rows, but maybe more of a farmers machine.

https://www.donedeal.ie/haybobs-for-sale/combi-rake-dr420/20114831?campaign=3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJBPGAsuQxg

Reggie.

Noveight wrote: »

None of the silage we'd bale would be tedded so doubling up the two 9 foot rows would suit grand.

Has anyone any experience of the likes of these? Seems like they'd do the job of doubling up our rows, but maybe more of a farmers machine.

https://www.donedeal.ie/haybobs-for-sale/combi-rake-dr420/20114831?campaign=3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJBPGAsuQxg

Not that much tedded here either. The fusion likes 3 rows

Noveight

Reggie. wrote: »

Not that much tedded here either. The fusion likes 3 rows

Savage headway in picking 3 rows no doubt! I reckon a mixture of heavy-ish cuts and lack of horse power up front means 2 would make as much sense for our carry on.

Lely Rotonde seems like an honest machine.

cute geoge

I have seen any contractor who ever bought a lely rotonde upgrade to a trailed rake with steering axle within a year!!!
Are the rotonde suitable for a contractor???
I would think a claas 2600 would rake more then two nine foot together and this is the smallest claas rake .The kuhn 6301 might not be as robust as claas but would be ideal for putting two 9 foots together

Limestone Cowboy

cute geoge wrote: »

I have seen any contractor who ever bought a lely rotonde upgrade to a trailed rake with steering axle within a year!!!
Are the rotonde suitable for a contractor???
I would think a claas 2600 would rake more then two nine foot together and this is the smallest claas rake .The kuhn 6301 might not be as robust as claas but would be ideal for putting two 9 foots together

2600 will pull in 3 9ft conditioned rows but it's a pig on the road.

Panch18

Local fella here bought a Rotonde and he’s doing a lot of bales, welger

Have to say it left a very tidy field, but they seemed to be driving wicked slow with it

I’d say if you’re running 2 balers then you would see a massive improvement in output if it was all raked before

What kind of kit you running if you don’t mind me asking?

visatorro

[quote=Reggie

I'm €10 inc and lads still bitch[/quote]

Maybe it's the state of the rows after ya!!!

Muckit

Rows (as in fights) over the rows (of grass). lol.

Reggie.

visatorro wrote: »

Maybe it's the state of the rows after ya!!!

What would you know about it :P

older by the day

visatorro wrote: »

Maybe it's the state of the rows after ya!!!

I don't think you should get paid for raking if its for your benefit, I see lads here raking an hour after mowing because things are busy, it is no benefit unless the grass is left for a while

wrangler

Anyone driving the Ford Ranger, seem very comfortable.
Any bad reports

Sheepman2

Supposed to be pigs on diesel

wrangler

Sheepman2 wrote: »

Supposed to be pigs on diesel

I think they all are, it drives like a car.
Drove a friends 3.2 ltr and fell for it.
Alexanders have lovely ones and the Euro is good,
probably get sensible and mean again and forget about it in a few days..

stanflt

wrangler wrote: »

Anyone driving the Ford Ranger, seem very comfortable.
Any bad reports

Had my heart set on a wild track until I drove one 3 weeks ago- I thought the suspension was very rigid- bought a navara instead

Reggie.

stanflt wrote: »

Had my heart set on a wild track until I drove one 3 weeks ago- I thought the suspension was very rigid- bought a navara instead

So you got it