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Jjameson wrote: »

5 leggy narrow shoulder but lumpy fat 620kg 1390€ on Saturday in carnew

A very generous kill out of 54% (I’d really expect 52) has 334kg. €4.16 a kg.
Let a mortal book them into the cartel @€;3.8 assume o= and no overfats.(again I’d expect o- and 4+ or 5s)
€3.82 including bord bia +another .10 for Angus €3.92. €1309 with the wind in their sails. The mart is the answer at the moment.

Anyone with lsl tune in on Saturday for real fireworks.

I had it at around €80 better off in the mart too.

Jb1989

Jjameson wrote: »

5 leggy narrow shoulder but lumpy fat 620kg 1390€ on Saturday in carnew

A very generous kill out of 54% (I’d really expect 52) has 334kg. €4.16 a kg.
Let a mortal book them into the cartel @€;3.8 assume o= and no overfats.(again I’d expect o- and 4+ or 5s)
€3.82 including bord bia +another .10 for Angus €3.92. €1309 with the wind in their sails. The mart is the answer at the moment.

Anyone with lsl tune in on Saturday for real fireworks.

3.85 base and 10 cent in donegal if right weight adds another 50 to that. Leaves them 30 behind. Down to the factory buyerr on the day to give the extra. Fortnight before Christmas I had bullocks out, the northern factory buyers werent in carnaross that day Noticeable price difference that week. Factory worked better than carnaross with 100 each per animal more in the factory that night when I took them on myself.

grange mac

On FJ website behind paywall Mart Manager in Bandon Skibb moving on.... Interesting times ahead with Maurice...

Jb1989

Jjameson wrote: »

3.80 is all a neighbour can get in the south east this week. What would you suppose the weight loss/transport would be on cattle from the south east to Donegal?

Enough to make a difference I imagine alright, but being awkward, yous must have better factory buyers down there than up here on the border. Factory quotes is just under to just over mart price here atm in this area.

Jb1989

Jjameson wrote: »

The northern buyers are putting the pressure on. But those cattle went to Abp Waterford buyer.Either straight to kill or to feed I don’t know. Not often they fall out and any tip of balance of numbers and it won’t last I’m sure.

Thats true. Hope it keeps going.

Base price

Jjameson wrote: »

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/throughput-of-beef-cattle-processed-forecasted-to-decline-in-2021/

The FR bull calf trade is going to be interesting in the next few weeks.

Grueller

Base price wrote: »

The FR bull calf trade is going to be interesting in the next few weeks.

How have they been going the last couple of weeks?

Bass Reeves

Base price wrote: »

The FR bull calf trade is going to be interesting in the next few weeks.

As will any calves. A 330 kg DW AA bullock has been making between 1225 and 1310 all this Autumn depending on grading and the way the prices were going. Ration is up over 50/ ton on last year. A 250 kg DW AA heifer is not much over 1k at present and she be a good heifer at that Giving rising costs you want them well done at 3-4 weeks for free to make any sort of margin.

Base price

Grueller wrote: »

How have they been going the last couple of weeks?

Prices are good but I'm basing that on the first sale that I watched from Carrigallen mart last Saturday. Suck FR bull calves were making from €100 to €190 and that was for calves from 14 days old up. The better quality square calves were up at the top prices. I reckon that they were bought by farmers to rear as opposed to going for export.

Base price

Bass Reeves wrote: »

As will any calves. A 330 kg DW AA bullock has been making between 1225 and 1310 all this Autumn depending on grading and the way the prices were going. Ration is up over 50/ ton on last year. A 250 kg DW AA heifer is not much over 1k at present and she be a good heifer at that Giving rising costs you want them well done at 3-4 weeks for free to make any sort of margin.

I can't remember was it Teagasc or some other learned organisation that published an article a couple of years ago stating that the farmer selling a FR/FRx bull calf would have to hand over €50 (could have been more) to the buyer along with the calf. TBH I think we are starting to head into that phase - it's going to be either something like that or increased culling. IMO in the near future the dairy farmer is going to have to supplement the sale of dairy bull calves like they had to do during the height of the BSE crises.

Track9

DukeCaboom wrote: »

I see Tom mc Carthy leaving Cork marts.

Yup, supposed to be moving to an Insurance Company that has a team targeting the Farm insurance Sector.
No harm to shake up the Farm Insurance Sector & put in some level of competition, They might even deliver better value for the Farmer...............
Tho i await to be amazed .

richie123

Base price wrote: »

I can't remember was it Teagasc or some other learned organisation that published an article a couple of years ago stating that the farmer selling a FR/FRx bull calf would have to hand over €50 (could have been more) to the buyer along with the calf. TBH I think we are starting to head into that phase - it's going to be either something like that or increased culling. IMO in the near future the dairy farmer is going to have to supplement the sale of dairy bull calves like they had to do during the height of the BSE crises.

That won't happen until beef farmers stop buying those calves.
Why would dairy men supplement when the beef man is perfectly happy paying through the nose for a worthless friesian calf

Anto_Meath

Watched a bit of the calves in Carnaross last Monday, BB calves around €400, BWH calves €300, AA calves €250 add. Good square Fr €100 - €150 with the poor ones around €50, there was no value in any of them.
But what I did see was a nice few Sep / Oct 2020 FR bull that were nice cattle and seems square enough at around €250.
They would be ready for the grass when it comes and lick of meal would be good cattle next back end so would be better value than the month old calves

Cavanjack

richie123 wrote: »

That won't happen until beef farmers stop buying those calves.
Why would dairy men supplement when the beef man is perfectly happy paying through the nose for a worthless friesian calf

We are listening to this for years. Friesian bulls are worth nothing, they may be shot when they are born etc. But every year lads lose the plot and buy away at them no matter what the price.

Base price

Mallon is going to start exporting calves so a new man may add competition to the market as long as the veal trade opens up in Europe although he is going for the better quality FR bull for the Spanish market.

richie123

Cavanjack wrote: »

We are listening to this for years. Friesian bulls are worth nothing, they may be shot when they are born etc. But every year lads lose the plot and buy away at them no matter what the price.

But sure they're happy doing that.. therapy.

older by the day

I have a few fresian cows for the Mart tomorrow. 550 kgs. 10yrs old. Roughly what do I expect. Would it pay to fatten. Say 2.50 a day, for 100 days that's 250 Euro to fatten them for May. Would it leave a margin

richie123

older by the day wrote: »

I have a few fresian cows for the Mart tomorrow. 550 kgs. 10yrs old. Roughly what do I expect. Would it pay to fatten. Say 2.50 a day, for 100 days that's 250 Euro to fatten them for May. Would it leave a margin

If they're fleshy mart all day long.

downtown3858

Jjameson wrote: »

No relative of the Liffey meats Frank Mallon?

Son

Good loser

QUOTE=Jjameson;115993943]A square growth fr bull at €100 to €150 wouldn’t look a disaster to a guy after getting €1100 odd for lads less than 2’year old but yes the reared lads all the way for me at that..[/QUOTE]

I might average €1100 odd at 30 months - but nothing like that at 'less than 24 months'.

richie123

Jjameson wrote: »

A 550 fr cow is unlikely to be fleshy bar she’s a dwarf!

Lots of fleshy fre cows out there tullamore mart was full of them yesterday

50HX

Offloaded a few culls this morning

Lmx 785kg 1410
Aax 780 kg 1330

Grueller

50HX wrote: »

Offloaded a few culls this morning

Lmx 785kg 1410
Aax 780 kg 1330

Good prices

Dozer1

nearly 500 cows in Gortatlea today if I read the catalogue right...and only the 1 ring, god help the heifers and bullocks waiting to be sold later

richie123

Dozer1 wrote: »

nearly 500 cows in Gortatlea today if I read the catalogue right...and only the 1 ring, god help the heifers and bullocks waiting to be sold later

All culls?? How many of those were the Marts cows

Albert Johnson

Dozer1 wrote: »

nearly 500 cows in Gortatlea today if I read the catalogue right...and only the 1 ring, god help the heifers and bullocks waiting to be sold later

It's a serious yard of cows before you even start the rest of the sale, would the bullocks and heifers be penned from the morning time? That amount of cows would up a big area of pens and although I've never been in Gortalea I assumed it wasn't a huge setup. If the young cattle were only being taken in and penned towards the end of the cow sale it wouldn't be any different from any other mart as regards time spent in the mart.

A lot also depends on the auctioneer and some lad's make harder work of it than others. Gortatlea have a serious man to get through stock judging by his performance in a mart local to me. It's still some undertaking but I used to frequent marts that would take up on 3 hours to sell 50 odd cow's with the messing that used to take place. At work yesterday there was 450 weanlings all sold singly through the one ring and it was all over in a little along with 6 hour's. There's other places would knock the same time out of half that amount.

50HX

Grueller wrote: »

Good prices

Yeah was happy with them

Got sold early thank God, some numbers thru gortatlea today

He really needs 2 rings on the go

Bass Reeves

Jjameson wrote: »

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJwKHTeM/

This is where the some of the bulls to Turkey windup. Very pleasantly surprised.

Often a lot of the bad press given these export markets is people with an agenda. They manage to get outlier videos and show these as total facts

Base price

50HX wrote: »

Yeah was happy with them

Got sold early thank God, some numbers thru gortatlea today

He really needs 2 rings on the go

I often watch their sales online and as I posted previously I think it's a great mart.

How come they don't have another ring, is it due to not having enough space to build one. I've never been to the mart but I would like to go there for a jaunt when the Covid is over.

Base price

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Often a lot of the bad press given these export markets is people with an agenda. They manage to get outlier videos and show these as total facts

I agree with you to a point but the same export destinations are not bound/regulated to the same or anything simular to the animal welfare standards that we accept as the norm.