Mart Price Tracker

bogman_bass

kk.man wrote: »

You only see a mart report. In thurles there are British friesan types and then you have the HO. You need to be there to judge the value or otherwise.

Thing is the extreme HO will probably be worth more on the hook.
He’ll turn into a big ugly giraffe of a thing but will weight more than the British Friesan

Water John

If you're willing to wait.

Bass Reeves

IMO over the last 2-3 years the really extreme HO is going out of the system to a huge extension. Most FR now while having a go proportion of HO bloodlines are bred more for efficiency at grass. They gave some huge advantage in a grass based system. Mainly they have good weight gain compared to a lot of AA cattle.

I have found some BF type cattle very poor to gain weight compared to these.middle of the road HO Friesians. On s grass based system weight gain is king

MIKEKC

Bass Reeves wrote: »

IMO over the last 2-3 years the really extreme HO is going out of the system to a huge extension. Most FR now while having a go proportion of HO bloodlines are bred more for efficiency at grass. They gave some huge advantage in a grass based system. Mainly they have good weight gain compared to a lot of AA cattle.

I have found some BF type cattle very poor to gain weight compared to these.middle of the road HO Friesians. On s grass based system weight gain is king

I have found the same with the Angus. Got rid of remaining overage eventually

Bass Reeves

MIKEKC wrote: »

I have found the same with the Angus. Got rid of remaining overage eventually

On a 12 month basis AA are averaging 600 grams/day, Friesian's are averaging over 800 grams/day. That is about 100 kgs LW extra over 12 months.

Injuryprone

Bass Reeves wrote: »

On a 12 month basis AA are averaging 600 grams/day, Friesian's are averaging over 800 grams/day. That is about 100 kgs LW extra over 12 months.

Would the FRs be eating a third more?

Bass Reeves

Injuryprone wrote: »

Would the FRs be eating a third more?

Maybe however weight gain is king in a grass and silage based system. Lots of AA seem to trundle along.

AA will hold there flesh better on silage only compared to Fr cattle. However you will not get the serious weight gain on grass that you will get off Fr. AA seem to trundle along.

Last year bought 8 AA in early September. They were 340kgs and about 17 monhs. I bought 4 Friesians in early November 390kgs LW. AA bulls were squeezed and on good grass until November. Both sets were togeather until slaughter.

Friesian's were slaughtered in early August average DW approx 320kgs so about 640LW or about 0.9kgs/day

Because of the strike which I ma not complaining about the AA were not slaughtered on average until early/mid November at about 320DW or 615LW. They had gained about 0.65 kgs/day.

Friesiand had got ration for 30 days about 70-80kgs. AA were on raiton/nuts from late August maxing out at 5kgs/day from mid October. They had eaten approx 350kgs. They also were on the best of grass during that time.

Considering you are often paying 2/kg for AA compared to 1.3-1.7 for FR stores unless I buy AA at the same price I am not interested

Albert Johnson

Cavanjack wrote: »

Prices are gone crazy for stores And weanlings this last few weeks

There's always a few lads who left it too the eleventh hour to buy, have a large tax bill hanging over them or want to fill a pen/shed at this time of year. After this week it's all over in the marts for a fortnight or more and stock and cash are always in short supply in January. I carried 2 store bullocks to the mart for an elderly neighbor last Friday night, both AAx and got very little feeding at any point since birth.

Black AAx January 18
510kg @ €1130
Mousey AAx June 18
415kg @ €950

I thought them a right good price considering the times we're in and I'm convinced they would have been €100-150 less a piece 6 weeks ago.

Albert Johnson

Albert Johnson wrote: »

There's always a few lads who left it too the eleventh hour to buy, have a large tax bill hanging over them or want to fill a pen/shed at this time of year. After this week it's all over in the marts for a fortnight or more and stock and cash are always in short supply in January. I carried 2 store bullocks to the mart for an elderly neighbor last Friday night, both AAx and got very little feeding at any point since birth.

Black AAx January 18
510kg @ €1130
Mousey AAx June 18
415kg @ €950

I thought them a right good price considering the times we're in and I'm convinced they would have been €100-150 less a piece 6 weeks ago.

250kg aa heifer weanlings €640 in kanturk. The last few weeks are a joke.

DukeCaboom

DukeCaboom wrote: »

250kg aa heifer weanlings €640 in kanturk. The last few weeks are a joke.

Actually there was a 4 week old ch heifer calf small but nice shape made €480 in skibb. As good a price i saw this year.

Cavanjack

Albert Johnson wrote: »

There's always a few lads who left it too the eleventh hour to buy, have a large tax bill hanging over them or want to fill a pen/shed at this time of year. After this week it's all over in the marts for a fortnight or more and stock and cash are always in short supply in January. I carried 2 store bullocks to the mart for an elderly neighbor last Friday night, both AAx and got very little feeding at any point since birth.

Black AAx January 18
510kg @ €1130
Mousey AAx June 18
415kg @ €950

I thought them a right good price considering the times we're in and I'm convinced they would have been €100-150 less a piece 6 weeks ago.

That is crazy money. I bought u grade Charolais weighing 550kg for the same money as the first lad a month or 6 weeks ago.

Albert Johnson

Cavanjack wrote: »

That is crazy money. I bought u grade Charolais weighing 550kg for the same money as the first lad a month or 6 weeks ago.

My thoughts exactly, it's not too many weeks since I saw good continental store's selling freely at circa €2 a kilo. I honestly thought double the weight or near it would have bought the 2 cattle above where as they made circa €2.25 a kilo. Everything here goes through the live ring so I've little knowledge of feeding or killing cattle but they both seemed at least €100 a piece over the bar to me. What would the best route to finish be for those cattle? I'm assuming the lighter bullock wouldn't be fit until next back end.

Panch18

Albert Johnson wrote: »

There's always a few lads who left it too the eleventh hour to buy, have a large tax bill hanging over them or want to fill a pen/shed at this time of year. After this week it's all over in the marts for a fortnight or more and stock and cash are always in short supply in January. I carried 2 store bullocks to the mart for an elderly neighbor last Friday night, both AAx and got very little feeding at any point since birth.

Black AAx January 18
510kg @ €1130
Mousey AAx June 18
415kg @ €950

I thought them a right good price considering the times we're in and I'm convinced they would have been €100-150 less a piece 6 weeks ago.

DukeCaboom wrote: »

250kg aa heifer weanlings €640 in kanturk. The last few weeks are a joke.

Crazy money

And still people challenge me when i say there's decent money in rearing calves

Fireside Solicitor

Haven’t been buying in a while as was laid up and couldn’t get out - how’s trade for 400-500kg stores going? Have sold the last of finished lot and be out in Jan starting to have a look

MIKEKC

Panch18 wrote: »

Crazy money

And still people challenge me when i say there's decent money in rearing calves

Crazy without a doubt. Interesting to see who will be complaining about factory prices next autumn

mahoney_j

Anyone sell any cull cows lately ???have few hol fr cows 600 kg plus tubed and sealed before Christmas was going to take them to nenagh tomorrow but no sale till next week prefer sell out of yard if I could

straight

mahoney_j wrote: »

Anyone sell any cull cows lately ???have few hol fr cows 600 kg plus tubed and sealed before Christmas was going to take them to nenagh tomorrow but no sale till next week prefer sell out of yard if I could

They seem to be making about 1euro per kg. Have lifted a good bit since before Christmas

tanko

Had a look in Ballyjamesduff today, Friesian cows
08 540 550
14 570 640
08 610 650
12 690 990
13 670 750
10 800 880
09 610 550
11 720 700
13 540 400
14 580 400
06 550 430
09 690 880
10 670 720
13 720 650
13 610 560
14 530 570

AA cows
16 520 660
16 490 630
15 540 690
BWH cow
770 1050
CH cow
13 740 1220
CHX and LMX cows
790 1420
850 1440
880 1680
870 1630
740 1120
740 1220

K.G.

Serious trade for cows inthe marts these days.feedlot agent bidding on every cow at the minute not just in spec like before.putting serious floor for cows and seem to be more interested in fr than sucklers

patsy_mccabe

Tide is turning so.

K.G.

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Tide is turning so.

Not sure about that.feedlots emptied during strike and havent been replenished until now.word has it china is proving messy and troublesome

Mooooo

Corona virus has apparently caused a backlog of culls foe china in nz, with some looking to offload due to drought

jntsnk

K.G. wrote: »

Not sure about that.feedlots emptied during strike and havent been replenished until now.word has it china is proving messy and troublesome

Yes. Was talking to a buyer for factory feedlots. Exactly what you said. Sheds are now been filled. can’t compete with them at the ring. Different margins!

Chap had out wintered whiteheads in macroom, some jobber from up the country bought them ave 332kg €840. One lot made 2:32/kg.

Murang

DukeCaboom wrote: »

Chap had out wintered whiteheads in macroom, some jobber from up the country bought them ave 332kg €840. One lot made 2:32/kg.

Were they bulls

Murang

Murang wrote: »

Were they bulls

Bullocks

Cavanjack

DukeCaboom wrote: »

Bullocks

It’ll all end in tears again.

CloughCasey1

Cavanjack wrote: »

It’ll all end in tears again.

+1,000,000

gozunda

Jjameson wrote: »

China was never taking any tonnage worth a damn from us. If they were we would be in serious bother. Uk and European markets.

Looks like that Chinese have upped their imports to regulate current supply. Most likely will make no difference here.

Separately, to stabilise domestic supply amid the coronavirus outbreak, China’s commerce ministry Saturday called for active expansion of meat imports.

Based on preliminary data, imports of meat products such as pork and beef arriving at ports totalled 310,000 tonnes in the first half of January, up 275 per cent from a year earlier. Imports of those products are expected to rise 190 per cent on year to 640,000 tonnes in January, it said.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/wuhan-virus-chinas-premier-li-asks-eu-to-facilitate-urgent-procurement-of-medical

johnnyw20

What would CHX heifers a year old out of the dairy herd make at the moment roughly? Have some here 360kg ave. when would the best time to sell them be? It’s my first year with heifers