This weeks Classic Irish bargains that I'm not buying

Tzardine

I am a sucker for old fords from the 80s and 90s. I have a couple in the shed.

But the Escort Cosworth is one of the most overrated cars they ever made. Built on a rubbish platform, and the engine is not much to write about in standard form. Very underwhelming to drive. A car that is over hyped.

And that one is overpriced by a fair bit. A low mileage concourse one would do well to get that.

kev1.3s

Tzardine wrote: »

I am a sucker for old fords from the 80s and 90s. I have a couple in the shed.

But the Escort Cosworth is one of the most overrated cars they ever made. Built on a rubbish platform, and the engine is not much to write about in standard form. Very underwhelming to drive. A car that is over hyped.

And that one is overpriced by a fair bit. A low mileage concourse one would do well to get that.

Over rated it might be but it is without doubt an icon.
I personally don't think that's too overpriced.

oceanman

Tzardine wrote: »

I am a sucker for old fords from the 80s and 90s. I have a couple in the shed.

But the Escort Cosworth is one of the most overrated cars they ever made. Built on a rubbish platform, and the engine is not much to write about in standard form. Very underwhelming to drive. A car that is over hyped.

And that one is overpriced by a fair bit. A low mileage concourse one would do well to get that.

all fords were always overrated and still are i think...

CoBo55

kev1.3s wrote: »

Over rated it might be but it is without doubt an icon.
I personally don't think that's too overpriced.

One year away from cheap tax too, it did well to make it this far.

KevRossi

Tzardine wrote: »

I am a sucker for old fords from the 80s and 90s. I have a couple in the shed.

But the Escort Cosworth is one of the most overrated cars they ever made. Built on a rubbish platform, and the engine is not much to write about in standard form. Very underwhelming to drive. A car that is over hyped.

And that one is overpriced by a fair bit. A low mileage concourse one would do well to get that.

It doesn't seem to be overpriced, they're making €38-50,000 in other markets. And that one is registered here.

Tzardine

KevRossi wrote: »

It doesn't seem to be overpriced, they're making €38-50,000 in other markets. And that one is registered here.

The one advertised is a high miler though, and a little rough around the edges, ripped seats for example.

I think it's priced very optimistically.

slipperyox

€45k on dd will get you into Ferrari ownership.

PsychoPete

slipperyox wrote: »

€45k on dd will get you into Ferrari ownership.

I'd rather have a Cosworth sitting in the driveway

sligojoek

slipperyox wrote: »

€45k on dd will get you into Ferrari ownership.

PsychoPete wrote: »

I'd rather have a Cosworth sitting in the driveway

I was wayching a lad on youtube last week who is doing up a Ferrari 512 BBi "barn find" with very little mileage. He took out the engine to change belts, water pump etc. Then discovered no compression one one cylinder. Tune in for the next episode.

One of the comments went, "If you can't afford a new Ferrari you can't afford to maintain a second hand one."

con747

JAGUAR XJS V12 1979 €4500 https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/jaguar-xjs-v12-1979/27326327

ohnonotgmail

con747 wrote: »

JAGUAR XJS V12 1979 €4500 https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/jaguar-xjs-v12-1979/27326327

I love that he lists himself as a private dealer when the only pictures are clearly in a dealers yard.

KevRossi

sligojoek wrote: »

I was wayching a lad on youtube last week who is doing up a Ferrari 512 BBi "barn find" with very little mileage. He took out the engine to change belts, water pump etc. Then discovered no compression one one cylinder. Tune in for the next episode.

One of the comments went, "If you can't afford a new Ferrari you can't afford to maintain a second hand one."

I think that's Ratarossa. I've watched a fair bit of his stuff, but sometimes I think he's going towards 'Hoovie's Garage' where it's all a bit dramatised for the camera. Hard to say, but he's had an interesting couple of years and there's some good stuff in it.

I think this guy linked below is good. He bought a cheap 308 and it's been a headache. He does a rough sum of the interim costs in this video. Overall I think it's honest stuff and there's a lot of good tips in his videos if you're looking at buying one.

Bear in mind he does a lot of the work himself and he's handy with a spanner. He also deliberatly got a cheap one, but you never know I guess until you own one.

Arthur Daley

That bodykit makes it look like a 90s XJS rather than 1979. Early XJS had their teething problems but at least the styling was more simple and pure. Not a fan of the later look, but the cars became more robust.

unkel

con747 wrote: »

JAGUAR XJS V12 1979 €4500 https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/jaguar-xjs-v12-1979/27326327

Beauty but you will need pockets as deep as those of Harry Metcalfe's farmers jacket to keep it on the road

Peter T

unkel wrote: »

Beauty but you will need pockets as deep as those of Harry Metcalfe's farmers jacket to keep it on the road

Typical farmers, crying out their always broke and a bunch of fresh gear in the yard :pac:

con747

Cheap 08 Alfa Romeo 147 €550 one for the future https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/alfa/27357826

BrianD3

KevRossi wrote: »

That Renault did 1500 miles per year each year, and even managed 700 in the 6 months before lockdown. Looks like a 'get-the-paper-and-milk-every-day-and-bingo-on-Tuesdays-and-mass-on-Sunday' kind of car. Was NCT'd at the same time every year as well which is a good sign.

New NCT, cheap tax, cheap insurance, cheap parts. I like it, would be great value for a grand.

Yep - loads of new body parts available on the likes of Taros Trade e.g. the faded grey bumpers and side rubbing strips could be gotten for around 200 quid plus shipping. Then fit new but age appropriate number plates. Polish and wax paint. Hubcap from ebay. Even assuming that the car has dings and paint issues that can't be seen in the photos, it might end up as one of the nicest left on the roads in UK/Ire.

unkel

con747 wrote: »

Cheap 08 Alfa Romeo 147 €550 one for the future https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/alfa/27357826

I don't think we've ever a banger as young as 12 years old in this thread before :pac:

ba_barabus

BrianD3 wrote: »

Yep - loads of new body parts available on the likes of Taros Trade e.g. the faded grey bumpers and side rubbing strips could be gotten for around 200 quid plus shipping. Then fit new but age appropriate number plates. Polish and wax paint. Hubcap from ebay. Even assuming that the car has dings and paint issues that can't be seen in the photos, it might end up as one of the nicest left on the roads in UK/Ire.

Nope, I owned the nicest and earliest one left. Its in Laois now.

oceanman

KevRossi wrote: »

That Renault did 1500 miles per year each year, and even managed 700 in the 6 months before lockdown. Looks like a 'get-the-paper-and-milk-every-day-and-bingo-on-Tuesdays-and-mass-on-Sunday' kind of car. Was NCT'd at the same time every year as well which is a good sign.

New NCT, cheap tax, cheap insurance, cheap parts. I like it, would be great value for a grand.

think it has to be 30 years old to get the cheap tax..

TrailerBob

BrianD3 wrote: »

Yep - loads of new body parts available on the likes of Taros Trade e.g. the faded grey bumpers and side rubbing strips could be gotten for around 200 quid plus shipping. Then fit new but age appropriate number plates. Polish and wax paint. Hubcap from ebay. Even assuming that the car has dings and paint issues that can't be seen in the photos, it might end up as one of the nicest left on the roads in UK/Ire.

My first set of wheels was a 1994 clio RN in wine with body coloured bumpers and factory front foglamps. It wasn't bad when I got it, and only 6 years old..but I was young and well... it went for 250 quid at an auction about a year later.. fun car to go for a small hatch with no sporty illusions, and more comfortable than anything of its time.

KevRossi

oceanman wrote: »

think it has to be 30 years old to get the cheap tax..

I meant it's cheap to tax. €330 per annum I think.

KevRossi

NCT to 11/21 on this, €3,000. Seems to be a decent price for a car that's not perfect but very useable. Might be crusty at the back left wing? Was this owned by a boardsie at some stage. It looks familiar.

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-190/27362439



I really like this. They used to be everywhere at one stage. Very decent price at €5,950. 1966, but restored in 2005.

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1966-leyland-550-fg/27362629

RobAMerc

KevRossi wrote: »

NCT to 11/21 on this, €3,000. Seems to be a decent price for a car that's not perfect but very useable. Might be crusty at the back left wing? Was this owned by a boardsie at some stage. It looks familiar.

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-190/27362439

based on what folks have been asking recently I think that does indeed look like a bit of a bargain.

Duke O Smiley

Cheap, especially with NCT, but I couldn’t live with that colour.

tabby aspreme

KevRossi wrote: »

NCT to 11/21 on this, €3,000. Seems to be a decent price for a car that's not perfect but very useable. Might be crusty at the back left wing? Was this owned by a boardsie at some stage. It looks familiar.

https://www.donedeal.ie/

I really like this. They used to be everywhere at one stage. Very decent price at €5,950. 1966, but restored in 2005.

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1966-leyland-550-fg/27362629

My Dad had a BMC version of this, back when I was small enough to stand alongside /sit on the switch panel to the right of the steering wheel, with the two lads working for him on the passenger seat and engine cover, the original crew cab

kadman

In all fairness the Leyland got a lick o paint here, lick o paint there resto, especially around the
chassis and cab area.
Painting metals around brackets different colours, and matching bolt covers instead of new bolts
would give me cause for concern. So it needs a good inspection in case its a potential money pit.

And do commercial classics commercials all need a cvrt now , open to correction here.

KevRossi

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Cheap, especially with NCT, but I couldn’t live with that colour.

It's not as bad in real life. I had one in that colour in Germany for a few months, wasn't too keen on it at the beginning but it sort of grew on me. Sills needed to be done for the TUV so we put export plates on it, drove it to Mauritania and sold it there.

Duke O Smiley

I like the look of this one:

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-190e/27358348





1.8 "Exklusiv" which was only for the Irish market. They were badged as something else in the UK, but were basically last of the line w201s before the C Class came to showrooms. They were available in this nice blue, black and a burgundy colour. Came with nice seats too

I think €4k is a bit saucy for a 1.8 manual with no NCT and 10 owners though

kadman

NCT excuse with covid is BS, as we all know NCT is happening as usual