Driving around roundabouts

horse7

edburg wrote: »

Got a lot of that when used to be out in trucks, putting feet up on dash and pulling book out tends to get them moving :pac:

Got the impression I'm in a bmeer get out of the way, she kept blabbering on ,until she drove out in front of me.

Thargor

myshirt wrote: »

I was going round a roundabout in Limerick last week and the car behind me made it through before me. How? They drove around the wrong way.

Woman. Late 20's. Irish.

Did she have red hair and green eyes and wearing a shawl?

horse7

Thargor wrote: »

Did she have red hair and green eyes and wearing a shawl?

So you've come across her before.

robtri

Multilane roundabout on the N25 just outside waterford on way to New Ross..

on approach from waterford the n25 exit to new ross is the second exit, passed 12 o'clock, two lanes...
for ages numerous people using the left lane to go all the way around to this exit... causing chaos for people using the right lane...

so much so that the council then painted arrows on the entry to the roundabout, clearly showing left lane is first exit only (turn left) and right lane is for second exit and third exit...

Still a lot of fecking muppets and i mean around 60%, are using the left lane to take the second exit and then beep at you for using the proper lane....

horse7

Could we put up some dash can action in this thread?

FishOnABike

Maybe it's a crazy idea but I think a lot of the confusion about lane use in roundabouts could be resolved if lane markings tapered / spiralled out to the appropriate exit instead of being concentrically painted like a target bullseye. Follow the lane markings, never cross over into the lane to your left, join the lane developing to your right if you are taking a later exit.

Canadel

challengemaster wrote: »

Eh, probably that you could (partially) forgive a foreigner for driving the wrong way around a roundabout in a temporary lapse of memory for which side of the road they should be on. At the very least you'd have some logical reason for why they did it.

With an Irish person it's just pure stupidity or ignorance.

Not necessarily. Take driving in many parts of Dublin city for an Irish person who doesn't drive there regularly for example -the increased volume of traffic, combined with the typical poor Irish signposting, and regular city drivers tearing around the place, can make it a very hostile environment for both Irish and foreign drivers. While the standard of driving may be higher in Dublin, road etiquette and an understanding for drivers obviously not used to city driving is quite poor, compared to elsewhere in the country where I believe there is more understanding among local drivers. Just my experience but there does seem to be a serious issue of aggressive driving in Dublin city, as opposed to defensive driving.

endacl

agent graves wrote: »

How do you know she was irish?

Freckles and a rosary?

9935452

cletus wrote: »

On the bundle of sticks roundabout on the way in to Naas, this is a regular occurrence. Two lanes leading into the roundabouts heading towards the town. 1st exit leads you to the ring road, 2nd exit leads to town, 3 rd exit leads to a shopping complex. As a result at 8.30 in the morning the left lane is by far the busiest.

However there are relatively few mornings as I drive to work that somebody does not skip the queue in the left lane, come down the right, then try and shoehorn back in to leave at the 2nd exit. If you bother to beep at them, you just get the "what the **** is your problem" look

what i dont understand here is, if you are in the RH lane and want to take the first exit , why they dont just go all the way around the roundabout and then take the first exit and skip the que and be doing nothing wrong .

check_six

FishOnABike wrote: »

Maybe it's a crazy idea but I think a lot of the confusion about lane use in roundabouts could be resolved if lane markings tapered / spiralled out to the appropriate exit instead of being concentrically painted like a target bullseye. Follow the lane markings, never cross over into the lane to your left, join the lane developing to your right if you are taking a later exit.

There's a couple of roundabouts like that near the Carlton Hotel in Blanchardstown. I think they are called "turbo roundabouts". Grand if you know what's happening, but bloody alarming when you are happily following your lane and you start being spun out towards the exit.

My concern was that they only worked as long as everyone followed the lane markings, failing that you would have some ding-dong piling into the side of you as they followed an imaginary lane that would match the lane they took on other roundabouts.

So, in summary, they are good as long as everyone knows how to follow the lanes correctly. I'd guess 50% of people don't, so you need to know those odds when approaching these kind of road layouts!

horse7

Forget about roundabouts, people can not manage simple junctions.

my3cents

horse7 wrote: »

Forget about roundabouts, people can not manage simple junctions.

We are learning, it often surprises me that people have just about got the idea of keeping out of box junctions until the exit is clear. It did take some time though.

When we will finally see the end of cars swinging left before making a right turn, driving like a tractor with a big trailer I don't know, maybe its a rural gene?

Alun

my3cents wrote: »

When we will finally see the end of cars swinging left before making a right turn, driving like a tractor with a big trailer I don't know, maybe its a rural gene?

Or cutting the corner off on right turns almost taking the front of my car off in the process. You'd think nobody had power steering these days.

the dark phantom

I find the standard of driving has got a lot worse. Drivers crawling off 3/4 seconds after the lights turn green seems to be a thing here in Cork now.

Gasherbraun

the dark phantom wrote: »

I find the standard of driving has got a lot worse. Drivers crawling off 3/4 seconds after the lights turn green seems to be a thing here in Cork now.

I agree fully. I actually just try to keep calm and accept that driving is just the way it is but it is getting harder by the day.

Had some guy last week who joined the N4 East at Junction 4 and charged across all lanes to try and squeeze through in front of me in the 2nd overtaking lane - I was actually passing an N plated driver pottering in the middle lane. He could not make the gap between me and the N plate so sped back through the traffic into the bus lane and proceeded to undertake three cars before speeding back out into the 2nd overtaking lane. About a minute later he had to force his way back through the traffic to leave the N4 at Liffey valley. Twat.

(for the record I did not speed up or block him in any way....simply maintained my speed to pass the N plate)

Better still was the red headed, mid 20's, girl driving a metallic lime green 1996 Carlow reg supra down Ballyboden Road a couple of mornings back. I walked out onto a pedestrian crossing when the traffic lights went red (I like to see the light red) and she looked straight at me and just kept driving through. I can live with that almost but the fact I had my 2yo in his pushchair really f*cks me off.

Still got most of her number and can find out her details but not really sure it is worth the stress.

hi5

madmaggie wrote: »

In Bagenalstown, Co. Carlow, there is one mini roundabout. The usual driver behaviour is to approach it, stop, and look at the other drivers to see who will move first. The exception to this are lorries, because of their size, they do whatever the hell the feel like doing, and who's going to argue with an artic? How the drivers manage on a normal size roundabout is a mystery to me.

I went through this junction the other day and all the paint has now completely worn away to the point where I thought it had been changed back to a standard junction, its a ridiculous junction for a roundabout anyway as the roads are not even opposite one another, add to that the traffic that's usually parked along the sides hiding the signage.

https://www.google.ie/maps/@52.7009429,-6.957164,3a,75y,180h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbr1P0omSYm2nKGpP_eSEag!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

looksee

Since anecdotal evidence is being used to demonstrate that women and old people are a major part of bad driving on the roads, can I use anecdotal evidence to 'prove' that they are not?

I passed my first driving test in 1968, first time, then when I came to Ireland I had to take it again and again passed first time. If anything the test abroad was more 'in depth' than the one here and covered more areas of expertise. Apart from one incident a week after the first test, which involved a newly wetted corrugated dirt road (like driving on black ice), I have not had an accident in 46 years of driving, no penalty points.

My husband has stopped driving now, he was one of the people given a licence without a test, he never had an accident in some 55 years of driving, no penalty points.

My sister has also been driving for some 45 years. Never had an accident, has had some speeding points. On one occasion she controlled the car with a sudden burst tyre on a motorway safely to the side of the road.

Good for us! What does all that prove. Nothing. But if bad driving can be defined by 'a 20 year old woman' 'an middle-aged woman' 'an old guy who never took a test' then I can counter with age and sex related definitions of competent and safe driving.

redlead

The quality of driving on roundabouts is definitely worse than it used to be. Two observations I've made:

1. Drivers from the greater Dublin area are the most likely to not bother indicating on roundabouts which drives me nuts. A common occurnance is to only indicate when exiting a roundabout when they are taking the third exit. Constantly not indicating when taking a first exit too which will prohibit you from entering the roundabout when you have the chance.

2. Drivers from outside the greater Dublin area literally don't have a clue how to drive on roundabouts with multiple lanes. The amount of times some dope has nearly gone through the side of my car is astonishing.

Colser

redlead wrote: »

The quality of driving on roundabouts is definitely worse than it used to be. Two observations I've made:

1. Drivers from the greater Dublin area are the most likely to not bother indicating on roundabouts which drives me nuts. A common occurnance is to only indicate when exiting a roundabout when they are taking the third exit. Constantly not indicating when taking a first exit too which will prohibit you from entering the roundabout when you have the chance.

2. Drivers from outside the greater Dublin area literally don't have a clue how to drive on roundabouts with multiple lanes. The amount of times some dope has nearly gone through the side of my car is astonishing.

What a sweeping post..unbelievable.

redlead

Colser wrote: »

What a sweeping post..unbelievable.

not really, I'm talking about drivers that make errors, not drivers in general. There is a hell of a lot less roundabouts with multiple lanes outside greater Dublin than in it so it is a pretty obvious mistake to be more common. I don't really have an explanation as to why drivers around Dublin are so poor at indicating but I see it every single day. They are also a lot less likely to indicate when overtaking on a motorway. just gone lax perhaps due to being on them a lot more.

Stephenc66

Living in Milton Keynes the roundabout capitol of the UK you very quickly learn about navigating roundabouts at speed and in the correct lane.. You can always tell the out of towners by the terrified look on their faces.. Locals take no prisoners.

A bit like unlimited German autobhans, circumstance means that you learn the rules very quickly

9935452

FishOnABike wrote: »

Maybe it's a crazy idea but I think a lot of the confusion about lane use in roundabouts could be resolved if lane markings tapered / spiralled out to the appropriate exit instead of being concentrically painted like a target bullseye. Follow the lane markings, never cross over into the lane to your left, join the lane developing to your right if you are taking a later exit.

Thats how they do it in england.

the dark phantom

redlead wrote: »

not really, I'm talking about drivers that make errors, not drivers in general. There is a hell of a lot less roundabouts with multiple lanes outside greater Dublin than in it so it is a pretty obvious mistake to be more common. I don't really have an explanation as to why drivers around Dublin are so poor at indicating but I see it every single day. They are also a lot less likely to indicate when overtaking on a motorway. just gone lax perhaps due to being on them a lot more.

Kinsale Road roundabout in Cork is hilarious, The lanes are marked exceptionally well but still get gombeens who haven't a clue and clearly can't or won't follow the lanes.

TheChizler

the dark phantom wrote: »

Kinsale Road roundabout in Cork is hilarious, The lanes are marked exceptionally well but still get gombeens who haven't a clue and clearly can't or won't follow the lanes.

The number of times I've been in the left lane coming from Douglas taking the second exit to Togher and someone cuts across me from the second lane to go to the airport.

They've literally spelled out what each lane is for with paint!

Boskowski

I guess every country has its own roundabout routine. Some countries are terribly orderly, in some countries its total chaos, in some countries they take no prisoners, in some countries you'd nearly be terrified to step out of line. Here its more or less do what you want and expect the same from everybody else.

Cortina_MK_IV

Dense fog the past couple of mornings and I don't know why I'm amazed at not only the speeding but tailgating. 4 cars passed me this morning on the outside lane of the M1 that looked like they were joined by a rope. Dense fog predicted for tomorrow too. Here we go again.

5W30

Cortina_MK_IV wrote: »

Dense fog the past couple of mornings and I don't know why I'm amazed at not only the speeding but tailgating. 4 cars passed me this morning on the outside lane of the M1 that looked like they were joined by a rope. Dense fog predicted for tomorrow too. Here we go again.

If you think we've had dense fog the last couple of mornings then you have no idea. I would hardly call it light fog.

But yes, tailgating is dangerous.

edburg

There a few cars I see around here who insist on footlights being on 24/7 and soon as mist is out they don't have any lights on.

Boskowski

Or the clowns driving around with parking/side lights because its not quite dark enough yet or something.

TheChizler

edburg wrote: »

There a few cars I see around here who insist on footlights being on 24/7 and soon as mist is out they don't have any lights on.

The same drivers?