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SEO positions local authority

  • 23-03-2015 06:14PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭


    DP considering applying for one of these.

    Can Anyone in the local authorities she's any light as to how many of these vacancies are likely to arise? Are these roughly equivalent to AP in civil service? Generally what are the roles available? E.g are they HOD roles?
    TIA
    :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭RumTumTiger


    Anyone??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭Zipppy


    DP considering applying for one of these.

    Can Anyone in the local authorities she's any light as to how many of these vacancies are likely to arise? Are these roughly equivalent to AP in civil service? Generally what are the roles available? E.g are they HOD roles?
    TIA
    :)

    Yes SEO is equivalent to CS AP grade.
    Difficult to say how many positions are available. Minimal I'd say..really surprised to see this competition.
    Generally, in a spirit of downgrading everything and killing staff morale, AOs step in where SEOs were and similarity SEOs are utilised to do work that ExecManager (PO level) once did as HOD. The result of this is less opportunities for promotion and less roles.
    So depends where you're based..might be HOD or not...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭KCC


    I wonder how many external applications there were? There doesn't seem to be much awareness of it on this thread at least.

    RumTumTiger: did your partner end up applying?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭RumTumTiger


    Thanks for the info :) I was surprised to see it myself as I thought they would ry and get it internal only. This must be one of the first SEO comps of recent years?
    Yes he applied. It will probably be another comp of various stages so the aim is to get through the first stage :) No idea on number of applicants. Told him to ring PAS but he hadnt as yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭KCC


    How did people get on with the tests?

    I found the numerical reasoning to be fairly tricky. I had to guess the last four or five questions. The verbal reasoning and job simulation tests were ok.

    Also, does anyone know if the numerical reasoning score is counted towards the overall score or if it is just a matter of reaching a qualifying standard on it ("passing it"). I'm worried I've blown it, but I guess I'll find out soon enough.

    BTW PAS told me that about 1,000 people applied and they don't know how many positions there will be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭dgerryd


    Hey guys/gals can anyone tell me where or how one could get more information about this thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 Whenever wherever


    Did ok in first half of numerical but fell apart in second half! Examples were difficult to go thru also!

    More difficult than PO!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭dgerryd


    Can you tell me where I could get more information about this thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 Whenever wherever


    What type of info r u looking for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭dgerryd


    What exactly is this test or exam about ? cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 Whenever wherever


    Local Authority equivalent of Assistant Principal open competition. First opportunity at this level in a no of years.

    First stage of process was online test.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭dgerryd


    Lol and there is me thinking this was about Search Engine Optimisation as from previous posts there were mentions of SEO a good few time's funny thanks Whenever wherever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Tivoli1300


    Found verbal and situational fine except verbal hard to see, tiny writing and could not optimise - numerical was awful, no chance I passed it. I am statistically trained and found it impossible in the time, so wonder how it is going to be assessed as imagine many people will have reacted badly to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭KCC


    Tivoli1300 wrote: »
    IFound verbal and situational fine except verbal hard to see, tiny writing and could not optimise - numerical was awful, no chance I passed it. I am statistically trained and found it impossible in the time, so wonder how it is going to be assessed as imagine many people will have reacted badly to it.

    It's good to hear from someone else who did it. I did the PO as well and also found it so easy in comparison.

    I agree that many people must have found the numerical hard. So hopefully there will be a low pass standard and hopefully they won't take the score into account when calculating the overall mark.

    If if helps, I think the EO numerical test had a qualifying standard of 29%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Tivoli1300


    I did the PO one too, a breeeze of a numerical compared to this one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Tivoli1300


    I did the PO one too, a breeze of a numerical compared to this one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭Yeboah


    interesting to see how many jobs will come out of this competition. If the country is improving as much as the government are trying to portray then there should be a good few positions available to different county councils.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭KCC


    Yeboah wrote: »
    interesting to see how many jobs will come out of this competition. If the country is improving as much as the government are trying to portray then there should be a good few positions available to different county councils.

    PAS wouldn't/couldn't tell me how many vacancies there would be. I didn't think there would be many. I know my local county council only has one current vacancy at SEO level with a possible further one later this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭KCC


    Results will be out by Friday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭KCC


    I've been invited to the next stage (shortlisting)!

    Anyone else?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 Whenever wherever


    Same as - didn't think that I would make it based on Numerical!

    Delighted to have made next round!

    Hard to know from letter though could one have passed exam and not b high enough to b called for next round though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Larry Bee


    My other half got through also. She didn't think she would get it cos of the maths. It looks like you get through if you reach the qualifying standard, i.e. meet the qualifying score in all three.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭KCC


    Same as - didn't think that I would make it based on Numerical!

    Delighted to have made next round!

    Hard to know from letter though could one have passed exam and not b high enough to b called for next round though?

    Congratulations!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Tivoli1300


    I am through too, astonished to be honest as written off on basis of the maths but scored highly relative to the qualifying standard. Surprised enough to wonder were mine mixed up with those of another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Samphire11


    Any idea what the max score was in each category?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 Whenever wherever


    Well done - marks similar to your own tbh!



    Could it ba case that this first part was only a Pass Fail and the competition only really starts now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Tivoli1300


    Could be, for the PO one there was a ranking and only those who scored in the top 25/30% were called to interview. No ranking for this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭KCC


    Tivoli1300 wrote: »
    Could be, for the PO one there was a ranking and only those who scored in the top 25/30% were called to interview. No ranking for this one.


    Maybe they are learning from their mistakes on the PO one? I know several people who got through to stage 2 on that one who weren't eligible/suitable and it could have been a waste of resources testing and interviewing them.

    Also, I wonder how many "passed" the tests? I heard from PAS that there were about 1000 applications. The shortlisting process could take some time depending on how many applications they have to go through. I would say interviews would take place around mid June?

    Also, I don't have the original booklet to hand - does anyone know what stage 2 involves? Is it just interviews and a verification test or will there be additional exercises?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭KCC


    Samphire11 wrote: »
    Any idea what the max score was in each category?

    I don't really but:

    For both the civil service PO and EO Stage 1 the maximum score was 800 for each test.

    I would say the max score for this one was also 800 for the verbal and 800 for the numerical. This would mean the qualifying standard would be 48% and 35% respectively.

    However, considering the qualifying score on the SEO situational judgement test was 894, it's difficult to say guess what the max score was. For the PO, the qualifying standard for the situational judgement was 55%. On the basis of this the max score for the SEO situational judgement could have been 1600.

    These are all just guesses though and usually they do tell you what the max score was when you get the results. There should be an opportunity to seek feedback in the future though so we should be able to find out eventually.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 Whenever wherever


    There is also the issue that it is now going to be broken up into 4 distinct competitions for the 4 different regions.

    Similar to the CO competition depending where you applied for, you could be ranked 10th in one region and get a job while another applicant may be 1st in another and have to hold out.


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