Gun shop Tallaght

vermin hunter

Lads have many of you being in that shop in Talaghet RANGE RIVER MOUNTAIN if so what was your experience. I'm just wondering as i have had not a great experience. And for a supposedly new shop they have a lot to learn in customer service and false advertising.

international shooter

vermin hunter wrote: »

Lads have many of you being in that shop in Talaghet RANGE RIVER MOUNTAIN if so what was your experience. I'm just wondering as i have had not a great experience. And for a supposedly new shop they have a lot to learn in customer service and false advertising.

I was there only 2 weeks ago. I thought it was pretty good. The guy I was talking to brought me into the gun room in the back to show me the firearms they have for sale. That guy, don't know his name, was really sound but after been in there for like 5 mins another worker came in and said very ignorantly that he was needed on the floor because it was too busy. I think he just didn't like me being in there because it wasn't that busy at all and there was 2 lads standing behind the counter doing nothing anyway. In terms of the shop itself I'd recommend going in if your passing but saying that I wouldn't like it to be my regular, go to for most things, shop either. Hope that's not too vague. Ha

Cap1

It's five minutes from my house. The lad who use to own tallaght rod and gun works there and hadn't changed. Never rings back when he say he will if he did at all. Also he always seemed to be out of cartridges .I was new to the sport and I spent my money else where.

ronn

I bought some stuff off the shelf, so I'd no interaction with any staff as such, but it's worth a visit,

LIFFY FISHING

Good stock and coffee shop, prices off the wall.
Very little knowledge of firearms other than your 12gauge shotguns.
Prices way to dear, I allways do a quick call around the usual suspects when buying my bits and they never are competative.
Priced 500 .22 cci standard vol rounds, they were €10 more expensive than Mc Carthy's in Prosperous and thats without the cost of diesel.

hexosan

I've found they never ring back as well, plus their prices on certain stuff can be a bit crazy.

tomtucker81

Ive found there are 2 fellas in charge there, one is the fella from tallaght rod and gun.

He always comes across as grumpy at the best of times, and didnt have a clue what i was looking for regards rifle accessories.
The other chap is younger and full of chat. Very eager to show you around, and can help with most queries and is normally very pleasant to deal with.

The other staff are mainly young fellas, and seem like its just a part time job for them, no real knowledge of things.

I can see how people could be put off by them but if you get the right fella you'll be there for ages talking and looking at different guns!!

endacl

Really good coffee. And a jacks.

Cap1

I've been using the gun shop in lucan. When I first went he came across as a bit rude. After spending a bit of time talking to him he was great couldn't do enough to help and isn't to bad on price.

hexosan

tomtucker81 wrote: »

Ive found there are 2 fellas in charge there, one is the fella from tallaght rod and gun.

He always comes across as grumpy at the best of times, and didnt have a clue what i was looking for regards rifle accessories.
The other chap is younger and full of chat. Very eager to show you around, and can help with most queries and is normally very pleasant to deal with.

The other staff are mainly young fellas, and seem like its just a part time job for them, no real knowledge of things.

I can see how people could be put off by them but if you get the right fella you'll be there for ages talking and looking at different guns!!

Think the fella your talking about is <snip>, I thought he was the owner he's very knowledgable and loves to talk about firearms. His son works there as well can't think of him name it's something like <snip>.

tomtucker81

Yeah <snip> is the younger owner, very helpful and chatty!

dodderangler

hexosan wrote: »

Think the fella your talking about is <snip>, I thought he was the owner he's very knowledgable and loves to talk about firearms. His son works there as well can't think of him name it's something like <snip>.

<snip> is the owner and <snip> is the general manager afaik.
<snip> is the young lad with the beard and a sound lad. Knows his stuff on guns. <snip> and a sound lad aswell.
Was up there yesterday to sort out selling the rifle with them and worked out a bit of a deal on a .22. They are nice lads but when your looking for one of them they never around

tikkahunter

Plenty of far better shops around than this sham, he claims he wont be beaten on price yet when you ring up and give him the price you got on ammo etc he just says" jesus you got yourself a great deal there and thats cheaper than i buy them in for" .
It is not like the Uk we have not got an abundance of hunting/gun shops so the few we have should be looking out for us and not trying to do us, i know how much they can get in deerhunter clothing ,led lensers etc and they can still make a massive profit without raping us.
He sells mostly bottom line stuff at high prices ,they do have the odd bit of high end gear but he is delusional with the prices, i know for a fact he can get in the jack pike stuff at 1/3 rd of what he sells it .
I dont particularly like the ****e talk that goes on in some gun shops but there is a happy medium not just pure ignorance when you walk in.
Carry on like this needs to be exposed ,it might make them think twice about P.R. Dodder i see you have to move on that .223 , you have it up for 1250 at a loss ,he pulled your pants down with that deal and thats not on ,your from that area he should be sorting the local lads out more than anyone else you are the lads that will be dropping in on the way home from work or whatever to pick up ammo or bits and pieces at short notice and give him regular custom ,hearing a few poor stories about deposits on guns as well.
There is better than him within 40 mins radius.

Zxthinger

I won't be going there. Rod and gun fleaced me and even then wouldn't answer my calls..
So as long as there is anybody from rod and gun there then I'm staying out and I'd advise you to do the same..

Zxthinger

He wasn't even man enough to answer the phone to me, just even to try and apoligies and explain that he had drove the business into the ground and webt bang..
No, I won't be going back..
He promised to ring me with the serial number of a gun I paid for in full. He must have promised me several times.,
I got all the excuses. The dealer never rang him. He just rang him yesterday he was on lunch.. They're not open till Monday.. Then when I called around to face him... the shutters were down and the shop closed.

Some people are full of it..

dodderangler

Jesus mate that's rough.you paid for it in full and what happened? Did you get gun or money or anything back?
Did you follow up on it

Zxthinger

Got nothing.. Not even a phone call.. As a said I rang his mobile a fair few time.. He just wasn't man enough to answer the phone.. It wasn't like I was leaving threatening messages, far from it.. I was polite and civil..

But now I'm warning all who read here..
Rod and gun were bad.... And that badness still has a presence in tallaght.

So be advised...,., some folk can't be trusted.

Btw another dealer that supplied me a firearm where paid in full up buying.. I don't mess around with lads in the business. Never had any other trouble with other lads!! Even one other chap that went out of business yet he still manage to have MY property returned to me via another dealer..

dodderangler

Surely you could go up to them an say here what's the fcukin story on me gun or me money back.
Wouldn't let them away with that. I know <snip> the owner wouldn't want that at his shop.
You should get up there to them about it.

Cass

tikkahunter wrote: »

Dodder i see you have to move on that .223 , you have it up for 1250 at a loss ,he pulled your pants down with that deal and thats not on ,.........

I have read this a few times and while i wouldn't have put it so bluntly i have to agree. Not taking a dig at ya Dodder, but i have to ask what was the price you paid? This is not meant to embarrass or single you out, just to put some perspective on the matter. It's just I've seen the Savage Axis, in .223 with scope rings, etc. for €599. That is new price.

Cass

Putting the Mod hat on for this one.

Lads, feel free to speak your minds and say your piece. Negative reviews are as important as good ones.

However, any comment must be factual and your own experience. IOW no third hand accounts, stories or your opinion based on something you heard. That is not a personal experience, and frankly could land you in trouble (not Boards.ie trouble, actual trouble).



Carry on.

bpb101

they have a hunting club now as well. picture on their facebook.
when you got your money back for the gun you paid you may think about hitting them where they hurt facebook reviews
https://www.facebook.com/rangerivermountain

Also lads, he has adverts on setanta sports. Also say his name pop up at the point on ice.

he running the 1916 freedom tour

also a good solo check pops up a good bit of info
http://www.solocheck.ie/Irish-Company/Range-River-Mountain-Limited-532689

<snip>

I was in there once , young fella asked me did i need help . Asked him did he have any .22 air rifle pellets to which he replied
no , we only have 6mm (meaning airsoft)
Which i replied , no for an air rifle,not airsoft
no ,sorry , air rifles are illegal here....
asked the guy behind the counter who looked like he knew something and brought me into the back room,(but didnt have what i wanted)

Looks like a nice place,Dont know anything about fishing gear and mainly only looked at the floor , but change colour (only thing i can remember) were expensive enough.


Hope you get your money back anyways .

tikkahunter

Cass wrote: »

I have read this a few times and while i wouldn't have put it so bluntly i have to agree. Not taking a dig at ya Dodder, but i have to ask what was the price you paid? This is not meant to embarrass or single you out, just to put some perspective on the matter. It's just I've seen the Savage Axis, in .223 with scope rings, etc. for €599. That is new price.

I genuinely wasn't being a dick with that post I seen how much that package was from milbro and a dealer can get it for 400 so he absolutely cleaned up on that deal and that's not right ,yes they have to make a profit and pay bills themselves but trebling the price of something is scandalous and seems to be standard up there . Jack pikes country man suite for example that can be bought in for 20 for trousers and 40 for the jacket so most places sell them for 50 and 70 thats is the RRP but he has another 15 euro on top of that.Ammo the same .It is like he thinks just because he is one of the few we have in Dublin he can charge what he wants.Id rather drive the 40 mins or so to Navan or Wexford just on principal .I can't post some of the stories I heard about deposits and the like but I would encourage lads that it has happened to to post on sites like this and it might make him cop on.You would think if you open up a new business you would change your ways and start fresh but it looks like he has just carried on with what he was like in the old shop. If anybody has any good stories which I highly doubt they should post them up .Fair is fair.

Cass

tikkahunter wrote: »

I genuinely wasn't being a dick with that post I seen how much that package was from milbro and a dealer can get it for 400 so he absolutely cleaned up on that deal and that's not right

I'm not calling you out on it lad, it's just it didn't make sense to me (the price paid when i seen the prices they can be gotten for), and you know how it'd be if it happened to you and someone highlighted it. IOW i was letting it go even though it was annoying me to know if it's the same model, etc just with camo paint. If so, then you're spot on.

Id rather drive the 40 mins or so to Navan or Wexford just on principal .

I've shopped in Jim McBrides, on and off, for nearly 12 years or more. He is usually more expensive than most, but he always has the best of gear and plenty of it. So when stuck or simply because i like Jim i'll give him my business. However when you look at the prices, compare them to Jim, and think "Jim's cheaper" you have to ask what is going on. (No offense Jim )

I can't post some of the stories I heard about deposits and the like but I would encourage lads that it has happened to to post on sites like this and it might make him cop on.

I was born an bred in Dublin. I used to deal with Watts on the Quays, the small shop that used to be in Lucan village and then TR&G. In that order as the others closed. I'd agree with the comments on the quality of service. It was poor, and abrupt. It's why i chose to drive to Athy and go to Griffin & Hawe and they ain't cheap either. But at the time it was Pat that used to run the shop (before John Butler and before he fecked off to Australia).

You would think if you open up a new business you would change your ways and start fresh but it looks like he has just carried on with what he was like in the old shop. If anybody has any good stories which I highly doubt they should post them up .Fair is fair.

I heard all the rumors when RRM opened and not one to believe rumors i waited. The initial reports were it's a new lad and good shop. Even now i wouldn't brand a shop as poor because of one member of staff. To open up a shop in these times, especially such a large venture, is a risk and a half. So more power to the owner. However if there are faults then they need to be identified now and fixed.

There is a certain shop which i won't name for the moment until i know i'm on solid ground. I know the owner through my Father initially, and then from meeting him myself. He opened it up due to his love of shooting and having the finances through his other businesses. The first lad that ran the shop was, well i need to watch what i say, but not right. He knew nothing about guns, exaggerated about shooting, did not understand scopes, accessories, used to ring me to ask advice (not bragging but someone would ask for something and he'd ring me with them in the shop), and then on the other side somewhat unpredictable, and at one point threatened, in front of a shop full of people, to jump across the counter and stab me with a screwdriver because i "dared" to demand a refund on a brand new Burris scope that was broken. He said the turrets are meant to screw completely out of the scope body/tube. :rolleyes:

My point is it was not until the owner noticed a huge drop in customers that he took my, and others, warnings about this guy seriously and got rid of him. He then replaced him with lads that are not as bad but still lack ability in certain areas. Only recently i was told by staff that:

• Buckmark rifle is not a bullpup (mag behind trigger under Irish law means it is regardless of how mad that law is)
• It is not restricted (bullpups are auitomatically restricted regardless of caliber)
• A semi auto C/F is only restricted if it has more than 5 rounds
• Pistol grips on shotguns are nothing to worry about
• Then could not even name a rifle that was sitting on the wall. Identified it as a CZ 455, which i knew it was not. It was another brand that use Brno actions.
• That 16" barrels are perfectly legal. There is no grey area at all. Cut to size or bought like that. No issues at all.

This was all within 37 minutes of being in the shop. Then get spoken down to because they stand on the other side of the counter. !!!!!!!!!!!


The point is, it's the same crap. I now don't go near that shop anymore and if the Father still wants to go i'll drive him, but wait in the car.

lakesider

tikkahunter wrote: »

I genuinely wasn't being a dick with that post I seen how much that package was from milbro and a dealer can get it for 400 so he absolutely cleaned up on that deal and that's not right ,yes they have to make a profit and pay bills themselves but trebling the price of something is scandalous and seems to be standard up there . Jack pikes country man suite for example that can be bought in for 20 for trousers and 40 for the jacket so most places sell them for 50 and 70 thats is the RRP but he has another 15 euro on top of that.Ammo the same .It is like he thinks just because he is one of the few we have in Dublin he can charge what he wants.Id rather drive the 40 mins or so to Navan or Wexford just on principal .I can't post some of the stories I heard about deposits and the like but I would encourage lads that it has happened to to post on sites like this and it might make him cop on.You would think if you open up a new business you would change your ways and start fresh but it looks like he has just carried on with what he was like in the old shop. If anybody has any good stories which I highly doubt they should post them up .Fair is fair.

put up a link to where we can buy jack pyke countryman gear at that price..

tikkahunter

I wasn't on late last night so don't know what reply there was and yeah it is a kick in the stones when someone points out something like that .It has happened to us all at some stage buying something or another .If you look at the market he has there with blessington lakes the Dodder.,and the Dublin /Wicklow mountains he has a huge market out there without selling any of the shooting gear especially how popular hill walking is now.Good publicity would earn him a fortune . Watts on the quays , me da bought me first wax jacket and wellies in there when I was a kid the other one on mobhi Rd was around around the corner from my school spent many an afternoon day dreaming in there.Say he used to hate to see me walk in and buy nothing but he was never ignorant or sent me on my way . When I started fishing i bought my gear off him and when i was old enough to shoot I used to give him my business till the day he closed up.

tikkahunter

lakesider wrote: »

put up a link to where we can buy jack pyke countryman gear at that price..

https://www.irishshootingsports.ie/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3560

First one on google, they can be got cheaper especially if you shop in the uk and use parcel motel

lakesider

tikkahunter wrote: »

https://www.irishshootingsports.ie/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3560

First one on google, they can be got cheaper especially if you shop in the uk and use parcel motel

The trousers are 55 and the jackets 90 not 50 and 70:pac::pac:..give us a link to the prices you quoted..here in Ireland..and if you buy in the UK youll be killed with sterling and postage..

juice1304

With regards the price of the rifle, i also thought the same but didnt want to say anything, i only paid €1100 for my savage flcp-k from milbro they threw in a bag and cleaning kit too very nice to deal with too, i was waiting though as it was a special order. That kind of carry on is really not on.

tikkahunter

lakesider wrote: »

The trousers are 55 and the jackets 90 not 50 and 70:pac::pac:..give us a link to the prices you quoted..here in Ireland..and if you buy in the UK youll be killed with sterling and postage..

Poor photo but shows ,70 euro camo country man taken today in Meath while buying ammo.
http://www.patrolbase.co.uk/jack-pyke-countryman-trousers.htm#.VRCPWvmsWT9

http://www.patrolbase.co.uk/new-jackets-and-jumpers/jack-pyke-countryman-jacket.htm#.VRCRHPmsWT8

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jack-Pyke-Hardshell-Countryman-Trousers/dp/B005RXSB0Q.

Use parcel motel postage from the uk costs 4.50 as a lot of shops offer free uk post.

You seem determent to try prove me wrong here so you must have some affiliation to the shop, well hopefully threads like these will make you change your ways .

Mech1

Its a great shop in fairness, But and its a Big but, the guy from rod and gun Tallaght is there and that was enough for me not to go back. 2 min spent looking at fishing gear and asking the price of one item of tackle confirmed that the bad attitude from him hasnt changed.

I will boycott this shop until he is removed from staff / ownership.

I dont shoot anymore but had many attempted dealings with Rod and Gun when I shot competitively with a local club, all where tainted by this guys attitude.

luvhuntin

I have never gone into the shop from just 3 phone calls I made to them. On the first two they hung up after answering and when they finally decided I was worthy of their time It went like this:

M Hello I'm looking to buy Federal Vital Shock in 95 Grain and heard yous are the cheapest
T Yes we stock them.
M Can you tell me how they are?
T They are 42.99 per box
M Is that for the 95 Grain VShock?
T Yeah. Yeah I think so, just hang on and Ill check. Yeah federal soft point 100 Grain
M Thats not what i asked about?
T Federal Premium you wanted?
M Yeah vshock 95 Grain
T These are the same but they are 100 Grain so they are better Ha Ha.
M Really? How much by the way?
T 41.99 per box
M Thats not cheap.
T You wont get them much cheaper than that anywhere else.
M Yeah I can, I get them off ** for 35.00 and Im looking for 5 boxes so ill save 35.00
T Well thats the price, Do you want them coz flying out the door?
M Good Bye.

aaakev

Was in there looking at a second hand rifle with second hand s&b scope. The owner <snip> tried to sell it to me at full retail saying that because he is an agent for s&b they cant discount scopes! This is afyer telling me how he had personally shot deer with this exact rifle and scope..... that coupled with the lack of knowledge made me decide against ever buying a gun there and i was looking to buy

tikkahunter

aaakev wrote: »

Was in there looking at a second hand rifle with second hand s&b scope. The owner <snip> tried to sell it to me at full retail saying that because he is an agent for s&b they cant discount scopes! This is afyer telling me how he had personally shot deer with this exact rifle and scope..... that coupled with the lack of knowledge made me decide against ever buying a gun there and i was looking to buy

Can't offer a discount, ah **** it sure I may as well throw a few bob on, the pm2 he has for sale can be bought 1000 cheaper.He had a second hand S and B up for 1200 euro I just got the same scope practically new for 600 pound so 820 euro that is some difference.Thank god for the Internet.

aaakev

tikkahunter wrote: »

Can't offer a discount, ah **** it sure I may as well throw a few bob on, the pm2 he has for sale can be bought 1000 cheaper.He had a second hand S and B up for 1200 euro I just got the same scope practically new for 600 pound so 820 euro that is some difference.Thank god for the Internet.

ah ya wanna hear the ****e he was spouting, i was looking for a 243 and he didnt have one so he decides to start telling me i dont want one of them i want something else because a 243 is no good passed 100 yards.... :rolleyes: never mind the gun he was trying to sell me was 7 or 8 years old and not much cheaper than a new one.

it pisses me off when someone is assuming i don't know what im looking at or talking about and trying to screw me, very bad way to do business

tikkahunter

aaakev wrote: »

ah ya wanna hear the ****e he was spouting, i was looking for a 243 and he didnt have one so he decides to start telling me i dont want one of them i want something else because a 243 is no good passed 100 yards.... :rolleyes: never mind the gun he was trying to sell me was 7 or 8 years old and not much cheaper than a new one.

it pisses me off when someone is assuming i don't know what im looking at or talking about and trying to screw me, very bad way to do business

Yeah don't like been talked to like i'm a fool or spoofed to ,I only use a couple of shops now as they don't mess lads around and price wise they will do a deal with you if possible, as I said earlier he has a good location there and could clean up but once you get a bad name I don't think you ever really loose it in this sport.

Cap1

Has anyone ever approach <snip> the owner about all this. It seems like a shame that a new shops reputation is being wreaked by one person.

tikkahunter

Cap1 wrote: »

Has anyone ever approach shay the owner about all this. It seems like a shame that a new shops reputation is being wreaked by one person.

Seems like he is part of the problem as well

dodderangler

Cap1 wrote: »

Has anyone ever approach <snip> the owner about all this. It seems like a shame that a new shops reputation is being wreaked by one person.

Afaik he is on boards aswell. He mentioned boards.ie to me before so if he is I'm sure he has seen all this.

tikkahunter

dodderangler wrote: »

Afaik he is on boards aswell. He mentioned boards.ie to me before so if he is I'm sure he has seen all this.

Will he act on it though or keep going the way he is because lads above have said he is as bad as the bloke running the gun room

dodderangler

Was planning on heading out for a **** tonight but had no ammo so checked the site and it said Thursday 8am-7pm so I got there at 5:55 and doors closed?
They let me in but still hadn't got the ammo I asked for 3 weeks ago.
Dunno what they're doing up there. And I'd be a regular getting shooting and fishing things.

Cap1

I'd take your business somewhere else.

dodderangler

Cap1 wrote: »

I'd take your business somewhere else.

I know pat in Lucan is a genuine bloke and is very helpful.

Cap1

100 % he couldn't be anymore helpful.

viper123

dodderangler wrote: »

Was planning on heading out for a **** tonight but had no ammo so checked the site and it said Thursday 8am-7pm so I got there at 5:55 and doors closed?
They let me in but still hadn't got the ammo I asked for 3 weeks ago.
Dunno what they're doing up there. And I'd be a regular getting shooting and fishing things.

+1 on this, happened to me twice recently. Last time they were locking up 15 mins early, they told me at the door they were locking to call back in the morning

dodderangler

viper123 wrote: »

+1 on this, happened to me twice recently. Last time they were locking up 15 mins early, they told me at the door they were locking to call back in the morning

Bet ya didn't go back?
The money I spent up there you'd think I'd get some sort of discount with ammo and the likes?? 18 quid for box of American eagle
I got two boxes of American eagle few weeks ago and the best he done was two for 34 quid. A whole two quid saved? and I took a mate with me up there to ask about getting a gun and they showed little or no interest in helping him. Didn't even show him a gun and I was quite surprised by the attitude.
Also seemed as though they were rushing to get people out.

johnnymolloy

went in a couple years ago when it was the original shop and was extremely unhelpful, it was my first time buying a gun and basically gave me no advice didnt explain the procedure or what was involved so took my business to des in outdoor sports in westmeath(the tallaght gunshop is within 5 mins of me) who i cannot recommend enough

went in a few years later to see what price ammo he had was told 1 price over the phone went in and was told another (higher)

tikkahunter

dodderangler wrote: »

<snip> is the owner and <snip> is the general manager afaik.
<snip> is the young lad with the beard and a sound lad. Knows his stuff on guns. <snip> and a sound lad aswell.
Was up there yesterday to sort out selling the rifle with them and worked out a bit of a deal on a .22. They are nice lads but when your looking for one of them they never around

http://www.rrm.ie/index.php/shooting/product/63-savage-axis-rifle-223

You need to drop in and have a word in his ear

BzrBren

<snip> is sound!

luvhuntin

BzrBren wrote: »

<snip> is sound!

Ah great stuff. I'm on my way over now to be spoken to by a someone who knows nothing but thinks he knows everything about everything, be told everything I own is sh1t and that everything in the shop(Usually jack Pyke) is the best, and then get fleeced if I buy anything and that's providing they even bother opening the doors. But it ll all be worth it coz "<snip> is sound"

Thanks BzrBren

pm.

Soooo if your looking for some good advice & looking to pay a fair price for ammo/ guns / accessory's AVOID

But if your looking to pay over the odds and like to be told your own personal guns are sh!te then by all means go...

aaakev

pm. wrote: »

Soooo if your looking for some good advice & looking to pay a fair price for ammo/ guns / accessory's AVOID

But if your looking to pay over the odds and like to be told your own personal guns are sh!te then by all means go...

Seems to be the general consensus alright