Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

dunworth1

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

Yep, Its one of the reasons the Switch is sold out. Word is out that stock is very limited so loads of people have pre-ordered the Switch to tout it come launch day.

Just like the NES classic. More stock would be welcomed and kill off all the touts.

in japan? I'd say the majority are genuine

not that it actually matters a sale is still a sale in Nintendo's eyes
if you are stupid enough to pay over the odds for one well then that's another problem

FAILSAFE 00

dunworth1 wrote: »

in japan? I'd say the majority are genuine

not that it actually matters a sale is still a sale in Nintendo's eyes
if you are stupid enough to pay over the odds for one well then that's another problem

Its a huge problem in Japan and China. Happens across varies popular product brands.

dunworth1

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

Its a huge problem in Japan and China. Happens across varies popular product brands.

can you provide anything to back this up or is it just assumed?

Danonino.

Nintendo will run the 3DS and switch side by side until the install base of the switch makes it worthwhile to phase the 3DS out.

Like Fire Emblem warriors on both for 2017.
Then Fire Emblem Switch and Mobile 2018.

By 2018 they will know if it makes sense to focus purely on the switch.


Launch line up day one isn't amazing. I don't think anyone would disagree, BUT, the launch lineup for this year is fine. They are being smart. Releasing early in the year to make a buzz for the holiday season, if the console takes then you'll see them pushing the portable aspects a lot harder.

People saying they have no interest in the mobile aspect and would rather a high powered home console are not who the switch seems to be aimed at. I'm looking forward to see how it all plays out.

Be graaaaaaand

sryanbruen

I'm not hyped at all for the Switch, looks rubbish and a waste of money if you ask me. My friends will be buying it though. I will think about buying it if they give me good reviews but no guarantees I will buy it.

sligeach

sryanbruen wrote: »

I'm not hyped at all for the Switch, looks rubbish and a waste of money if you ask me. My friends will be buying it though. I will think about buying it if they give me good reviews but no guarantees I will buy it.

Did you just get out of jail? Where have you been?

sryanbruen

sligeach wrote: »

Did you just get out of jail? Where have you been?

Working my ass off getting money to buy a gaming PC :P. I've also been playing a lot of different games, Overwatch, Dead Rising 4, Battlefield 1, Call of Duty MWR etc.

druss

I put my €50 down in my local game store in Belgium today. They aren't the most competitive price wise, but I've always been able to reclaim VAT from them.

After a protracted "Franglish" discussion, they told me that they couldn't absolutely 100% guarantee that everything would be there on 3 March, "because Nintendo"...but I felt I was in too deep to retreat and I kept going. Mixed feelings now.

I ordered the mixed colour switch, another set of standard grey joy-cons and the grip charger thing. Plus Zelda.

All told, that should be somewhere around €400 to €410-ish. Arms is pre-ordered on Amazon.

Behind my, my WiiU is making me feel guilty. How can I move it away to the "second room" when it has so much to give?!

CiDeRmAn

I've got too many games still to be played on, well, all the formats living in my living room, including the WiiU.
They'll all have to get along.
My Switch will mean the 360 is for a move to the gamesroom though, which will necessitate a flat panel TV up there... Must check out Adverts...
Buying a Switch impacts everything, my 360 has lived there for 12 years, won't be the same without it!

nairy hipples

Just looking on GameStop there. The pair of Joy-Con controllers is €89.99 (which I knew about) however they don't seem to come with a grip? Does this mean that you have to spend another €20 on a grip bringing the total cost for a new controller to €110??

CosmicSmash

sligeach wrote: »

Yes the jump in graphics wasn't huge from last gen to both PS4 and XB1. It's still noticeable and they came out 3 years ago. Nintendo could have made a bigger leap had they got the guts but they ducked out of the arms race 15 years ago. It always seems like they've no confidence in themselves or belief that they'll do well. If they don't, then why should we? Nintendo have the potential, that's the annoying thing. I believe they can be the kings of gaming. Give me 1 reason why they can't? And I'll give you at least a dozen reasons why they can. 2 million consoles at launch is nothing. I know the time of year, whatever, but that's not a massive number. I could guess why they've gone with such a low number. None of the answers most people here probably won't like.


Twilight Princess wasn't the cause of the Wii's success. It was great for the hardcore crowd though. Neither will Zelda: BOTW for the Switch determine its ultimate fate. And it is going to be a great game. The 3 biggest things, though I could list more, that will determine if Switch succeeds are price, third party support and online. First party is a given, it wasn't enough for Wii U and won't be enough this time around either. Price is bad, for now, they may lower it and will need to for mass market appeal. Third party support, that's always fickle, especially where Nintendo's concerned. I don't think it's hugely impressive so far. And lastly online, it's too early to tell but so far it sounds bad. Nintendo should be communicating that message better.

I never claimed that Twilight Princess was the cause for the success the Wii had. Another poster had made a point that its main launch game was a WiiU game, the point I was making was that it was the same as the Wii and Twilight Princess. If I remember correctly it was probably the best game available for the Wii at launch, this will more than likely be the same case with the Switch too. There are enough games in the pipeline for me to make a purchase now.

I do agree with you that Nintendo really need to do more to sell the Switch, they don't want to same the same mistakes as they did with the WiiU. I also agree with you that third party support and online is crucial this time around. You say that Nintendo left the arms race fifteen years ago. I don't think this is fair because the offered so much innovation with the Wii, DS and the 3ds in that time. Their sales figures have proven this. Nintendo were never about having the best graphics, the price is the price. I think the ps4 and one were 400 and 500 euro respectivley, so 330 with two controllers isn't really too bad on day one.

It's good to get your well thought out response instead of the child-like one I got earlier from someone who had to revert to name calling. It might even grow on you over time as the library grows. I don't think anybody wants Nintendo to fcuk this up.

druss

nairy hipples wrote: »

Just looking on GameStop there. The pair of Joy-Con controllers is €89.99 (which I knew about) however they don't seem to come with a grip? Does this mean that you have to spend another €20 on a grip bringing the total cost for a new controller to €110??

Yes, which kind of makes a more compelling case for the pro-controller. I went with the additional controllers/grip.

• in case Arms is awesome
• to start family fights over Mario Kart
• in case Wii U pro controller was to be made compatible (very unlikely)

Star Lord

Think the Joy Cons should come with a grip, even if it's just the standard grip, like the one that comes with the switch. Bit crap that they don't.

nairy hipples

Star Lord wrote: »

Think the Joy Cons should come with a grip, even if it's just the standard grip, like the one that comes with the switch. Bit crap that they don't.

I'm thinking the same. If you buy them as a double pack they should come with the non-charging grip. It's a bit stingy-would also cost Nintendo about a Euro to include it!

dunworth1

Star Lord wrote: »

Think the Joy Cons should come with a grip, even if it's just the standard grip, like the one that comes with the switch. Bit crap that they don't.

according to the description on GameStop they come with a grip

This is Joy‑Con™

One controller or two, vertical or sideways, motion controls or button. Joy‑Con and Nintendo Switch give you total gameplay flexibility.
Games come to life through easy-to-use motion controls and HD rumble—advanced vibration features built into each Joy‑Con.
Use the included Joy‑Con grip to combine both Joy‑Con into a traditional-style controller.
Depending on the game, you might use a single Joy‑Con in each hand—or even give the second one to a friend.
Ready to go? Slide the Joy‑Con into Nintendo Switch to go portable.

https://www.gamestop.ie/Nintendo%20Switch/Games/62056/nintendo-switch-joy-con-controllers-grey

dunworth1

this is interesting 40 million uint by 2020 according to Analysts

http://wwg.com/2017/01/20/nintendo-switch-to-sell-40-million-units-in-opening-years-say-an/

CiDeRmAn

CosmicSmash wrote: »

It's good to get your well thought out response instead of the child-like one I got earlier from someone who had to revert to name calling. It might even grow on you over time as the library grows. I don't think anybody wants Nintendo to fcuk this up.

Honestly, I think there is evidence here and in a much earlier WiiU thread that there are a number of vocal people who dearly would like to see Nintendo fcuk up

nairy hipples

dunworth1 wrote: »

this is interesting 40 million uint by 2020 according to Analysts

http://wwg.com/2017/01/20/nintendo-switch-to-sell-40-million-units-in-opening-years-say-an/

Saw this yesterday on N4G.
That company made a similar claim about the Wii U. Then they had to lower this estimate to 25 million Will Us (not sure what the original estimate was). We both know how wrong they were on that unfortunately

dunworth1

nairy hipples wrote: »

Saw this yesterday on N4G.
That company made a similar claim about the Wii U. Then then how to lower this estimate to 25 million Will Us (not sure what the original estimate was). We both know how wrong they were on that unfortunately

were people in japan this crazy to get their hands on a wii u?
apparently people are still queuing for preorders

FAILSAFE 00

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Honestly, I think there is evidence here and in a much earlier WiiU thread that there are a number of vocal people who dearly would like to see Nintendo fcuk up

Ah for goodness sake, do you need a tissue

I can't think of one person that doesn't want Nintendo to succeed. Like many of us gamers Nintendo is deeply ingrained into my childhood. The NES, SNES, Gameboy, and N64. Played to death. Great times.

You need to come down from your high horse. People have a right to be critical about Nintendo. They are a highly arrogant company that do not listen to their customers/fans.

Pages upon pages of digs at everyone who is critical of the Switch. Get over it.

Danonino.

It won't be as powerful as people hope. People are expecting a PS4 you can bring with you. I'm expecting a Wii U/Vita hybrid.

I'm perfectly fine with that.

I will use the portable aspects a hell of a lot. From playing in bed, on the loo, in hotel rooms, on the train, in a friend's.

dunworth1

so many

Pac1Man

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Honestly, I think there is evidence here and in a much earlier WiiU thread that there are a number of vocal people who dearly would like to see Nintendo fcuk up

The concerns raised seem genuine. People seem to have a heightened sensitivity when it comes to this topic though, from both sides of the fence.

To label it a failure before launch is ridiculous. We have enough evidence from the past to suggest a sub-par first phase does not define a console.

Conversely, the evidence we do have certainly points towards the console not being the second coming as some would also lead us to believe. Let's face it, it's a Super Wii U.

Topics like accessory prices, battery life, system memory, potential online services and most importantly, system performance should not be off limits. Discussing these should not label the person as a Nintendo doomsdayer or similar.

Pac1Man

Pac1Man wrote: »

The concerns raised seem genuine. People seem to have a heightened sensitivity when it comes to this topic though, from both sides of the fence.

To label it a failure before launch is ridiculous. We have enough evidence from the past to suggest a sub-par first phase does not define a console.

Conversely, the evidence we do have certainly points towards the console not being the second coming as some would also lead us to believe. Let's face it, it's a Super Wii U.

Topics like accessory prices, battery life, system memory, potential online services and most importantly, system performance should not be off limits. Discussing these should not label the person as a Nintendo doomsdayer or similar.

This is exactly how I feel. I want Nintendo to succeed.
But when you see the Wii U for example you see that ultimately it wasn't a great console at all.
I bought it and sold it within 12 ish months.
Just wasn't enough to warrant holding onto it.
If you actually look at the console life cycle it should be considered really short with next to no decent titles bar the occasional Nintendo classic came out for it.
There was nothing to tide me over beyond the odd few games so in essence there was never a reason to use the console other than once in a blue moon.
That's not the Nintendo I remember growing up whatever way you want to put it.
The member berries are keeping me going, as the best fun I have had with a Nintendo console in the last couple of years has been the Classic mini and not Nintendo's latest iterations.
And that's just this weekend!

Corholio

Pac1Man wrote: »

The concerns raised seem genuine. People seem to have a heightened sensitivity when it comes to this topic though, from both sides of the fence.

To label it a failure before launch is ridiculous. We have enough evidence from the past to suggest a sub-par first phase does not define a console.

Conversely, the evidence we do have certainly points towards the console not being the second coming as some would also lead us to believe. Let's face it, it's a Super Wii U.

Topics like accessory prices, battery life, system memory, potential online services and most importantly, system performance should not be off limits. Discussing these should not label the person as a Nintendo doomsdayer or similar.

I'd agree with a lot of this for sure, especially the part in bold. There's nothing wrong with criticism, or indeed criticism of criticism if it's a genuine argument. At times the negativity has been a little over relentless though, as in posts are made just to be negative or to argue a negative point, with very little of what may be good or what they are looking forward to Switch wise. I mean there must be some interest one would have in the Switch if they accrue multiple posts about it right? Where do you go with arguments that the Switch is crap, Nintendo is doomed etc etc.

CiDeRmAn

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

Ah for goodness sake, do you need a tissue

I can't think of one person that doesn't want Nintendo to succeed. Like many of us gamers Nintendo is deeply ingrained into my childhood. The NES, SNES, Gameboy, and N64. Played to death. Great times.

You need to come down from your high horse. People have a right to be critical about Nintendo. They are a highly arrogant company that do not listen to their customers/fans.

Pages upon pages of digs at everyone who is critical of the Switch. Get over it.

Lighten up on the personal stuff there.
And there's plenty of difference of opinion and debate.
It's healthy.
And, Nintendo aren't out to get you.
They don't hate you, they aren't in the market to scam you.
And please don't suffer the delusion that Sony or MS are somehow crowd pleasers where Nintendo are not.
It's all about the money.
Nintendo have a very different approach compared to Sony and MS, just as Sony and MS differ.
And Nintendo have made mistakes, just as MS have made mistakes, and so have Sony.
And they each deserve to have them highlighted so the consumer can make an educated and informed choice before their purchase.
And, as such, I'll offer what I believe to be an informed opinion.
Do you know what I won't do?
Rattle off the same lines that we've been hearing for over a decade.
And I will not repeat them because they've been aired enough.
But there appears to be no shortage of those that will.
There's users here that are troubled by a lack of software choice at launch.
There's those concerned at pricing of the system and some of the games.
There's those that don't like that Skyrim, a game that everyone has played and is still months away and, possibly, to be released at twice the price of the same game on PS4 and XB1, a special edition already available.
And I am that person, these are things that concern me too, but the positive possibilities of new Nintendo hardware outweighs the concerns and so I prefer to be optimistic.

I'll call out people who deliver definitive statements based on, well, nothing at all.

Otherwise I'll engage in a healthy debate with anyone.
Perhaps if you tried a little more of that instead your kind of posts here, you'd get more out of this forum at least, perhaps even the site in general.

Grayditch

Grayditch wrote: »

This thread has turned weird.

Well, I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong...

Nollog

dunworth1 wrote: »

according to the description on GameStop they come with a grip



https://www.gamestop.ie/Nintendo%20Switch/Games/62056/nintendo-switch-joy-con-controllers-grey

She probably meant joy con r and l sets should come with a comfort grip.

What you quoted from GameStop refers to the comfort grip included with the system.

Corholio

/\/ollog wrote: »

She probably meant joy con r and l sets should come with a comfort grip.

What you quoted from GameStop refers to the comfort grip included with the system.

No, it's actually in the description for Joy-Con controllers on their own, it seems you do get a grip with them. Scroll down to Description.

https://www.gamestop.ie/Nintendo%20Switch/Games/62056/nintendo-switch-joy-con-controllers-grey

CiDeRmAn

It's not clear from any other site if, when you buy a matched set of Joy cons if they come with the bit to connect them.
We'll get a clearer look at the packaging soon I guess.