Jeremy Clarkson suspended

Karl Stein

Mint Aero wrote: »

Does it upset you that there's real alpha men in the world who'll get into fisty cuffs over food?

But it wasn't two guys fighting over a carcass because both were hungry. It was a man-diva getting the hump over his food not being ready for him.

James May is the 'Alpha male' in that group by the way - he's the guy you'd want with you if you were up against it in a survival situation.

Kailani Moldy Beech wrote: »

People of servitude have been trampling all over privately-educated, middle-aged millionaires for too long!

How dare they not have Master Clarkson's food ready for him on time. The ruffians should be thrashed to within an inch of their lives!

Mint Aero

Mint Aero wrote: »

LOL man card, either you're a 6 yr old or you're a stereotype 30-something :pac:

Does it upset you that there's real alpha men in the world who'll get into fisty cuffs over food? What plastic box salad from centra did you eat at your office desk today because your boss doesn't allow you outside at lunch? :pac:

How can anyone type this, and not cringe to death when they read it over?
Having a hissyfit because you were late for dinner doesn't make you an alpha male, it makes you contemptible. If he punched someone over it, it makes him criminal.

Karl Stein wrote: »

James May is the 'Alpha male' in that group by the way - he's the guy you'd want with you if you were up against it in a survival situation.

May has more brains and more command in his little finger than Clarkson has in his entire body, belt-straining gut included.

Mint Aero

Candie wrote: »

How can anyone type this, and not cringe to death when they read it over?
Having a hissyfit because you were late for dinner doesn't make you an alpha male, it makes you contemptible. If he punched someone over it, it makes him criminal.
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Criminal :rolleyes: Guys, people like Jeremy. Get over it. Someone will like you too someday for something you do...:)

Typical Irish begrudgery of someones success much? I bet you hate Bono too.

Mint Aero

Mint Aero wrote: »

Criminal :rolleyes: Guys, people like Jeremy. Get over it. Someone will like you too someday for something you do...:)

Hitting people is assault. Assaulting people because your dinner isn't ready isn't big and isn't clever. I can't believe anyone is defending it, if it was a neighbour it wouldn't be ok, if you were the person getting punched because a hotel guest was too late for food, you'd be disgusted, if your mum was punched by a spoilt sleb because he was hungry, you'd think he was an animal.

Being famous doesn't make the man exempt from decent behaviour towards others. Punching someone because you're hungry is a contemptible thing to do.

dr.fuzzenstein

Candie wrote: »

How can anyone type this, and not cringe to death when they read it over?
Having a hissyfit because you were late for dinner doesn't make you an alpha male, it makes you contemptible. If he punched someone over it, it makes him criminal.



May has more brains and more command in his little finger than Clarkson has in his entire body, belt-straining gut included.

We don't know what happened. There is a big difference between punching someone full force in the face and a bit of a push and shove with some handbags thrown in. I suspect it was the latter.
Of course there always the "water protester/footballer" type who will fall on the ground screaming in agony if someone comes with 2 feet of him without actually touching him.

May may have more brains, but who is the guy with the motoring show to his name? It goes to show that the gentlemanly, polite, intelligent guy does not always finish ahead. It may not be fair, but such is the world. Sometimes it's the big, fat oaf that makes it. Them's the rules.

Mint Aero

Candie wrote: »

Hitting people is assault. Assaulting people because your dinner isn't ready isn't big and isn't clever. I can't believe anyone is defending it, if it was a neighbour it wouldn't be ok, if you were the person getting punched because a hotel guest was too late for food, you'd be disgusted, if your mum was punched by a spoilt sleb because he was hungry, you'd think he was an animal.

Being famous doesn't make the man exempt from decent behaviour towards others. Punching someone because you're hungry is a contemptible thing to do.

You can't compare the work day he had to normal run of the mill people. Did you see the episode where Hammond was hoisted up a vertical 200ft dam in a jeep?! Can you imagine how sky rocket his adrenaline would be after that!

They were filming in Newcastle all day. Clarkson's adrenaline was probably in top gear and the chap was probably hanging for food. What kind of idiot can't arrange a bit of hot food after the days work? Should be sacked and get a bollicking from the heads of BBC too. Thankfully Clarkson gave him the bollicking he deserved. Might think twice before f*cking up a simple task.

Clarkson is a person like any other, subject to the same rules as the rest of us.

If you could honestly say you'd be okay with him hitting you, or your mum, or your dad, or even just calling them a cnut, because he arrived too late for dinner, then I'm in awe of your ability to be blinded by celebrity.

If Clarkson can be excused from hitting or swearing at someone because he hadn't the wit to eat earlier, then Stephen Hawking should be allowed nuke a small Pacific island if he wakes up in a bad mood, if we're going to use a persons contributions to excuse bad behaviour.

Mint Aero

Candie wrote: »

Clarkson is a person like any other, subject to the same rules as the rest of us.

If you could honestly say you'd be okay with him hitting you, or your mum, or your dad, or even just calling them a cnut, because he arrived too late for dinner, then I'm in awe of your ability to be blinded by celebrity.

That's never happened and would never happen. The chap works with Clarkson and couldn't manage a simple and vital task. I'd expect a bollicking too if I couldn't manage to arrange grub.

Wompa1

Mint Aero wrote: »

Criminal :rolleyes: Guys, people like Jeremy. Get over it. Someone will like you too someday for something you do...:)

Typical Irish begrudgery of someones success much? I bet you hate Bono too.

I'm a guy, I don't like him. Mostly for his writings and ugly personality.

If he assaulted a co-worker, he should be fired. James May said that he didn't see the incident as he was blind drunk at the time. If Clarkson was also drunk it might explain why he acted the way he did BUT...you also can't get intoxicated at your job AND assault somebody so that's two fireable offenses from a man that's working for a tv company paid for by British tax payers

Mint Aero

Wompa1 wrote: »

If he assaulted a co-worker, he should be fired. James May said that he didn't see the incident as he was blind drunk at the time. If Clarkson was also drunk it might explain why he acted the way he did BUT...you also can't get intoxicated at your job AND assault somebody so that's two fireable offenses from a man that's working for a tv company paid for by British tax payers

People are getting highly confused here. He's not working in the same type of environment as you lot.

ScumLord

Candie wrote: »

Clarkson is a person like any other, subject to the same rules as the rest of us.

Yes, and like a person he can lose the rag over minor crap. I know I've spent the working and traveling and can be like a brier if I get back to a hotel and they've stopped serving food, I'd never resort to hitting someone but I'll go around fuming and I wouldn't care who knew it. Then I'll get fed somewhere else and come back feeling guilty for being such a bastard.

Wompa1 wrote: »

If he assaulted a co-worker, he should be fired.

It's easy to say that but the fact is he is a massive component of the show. Would you take a slap to keep your multi million pound show on the air and all the people working on it employed? He may be a bit of a man child, but he's a highly profitable and popular man child.

ScumLord

ScumLord wrote: »

Yes, and like a person he can lose the rag over minor crap.

Exactly. But he's got to face the consequences for losing his rag, just like the rest of us.

Mint Aero

Candie wrote: »

Exactly. But he's got to face the consequences for losing his rag, just like the rest of us.

He is, the show has been taken off the air :pac: But unlike the rest of us, the guy is irreplaceable on a hugely successful money mountain. Money talks :cool: and the incident is so minor compared to other stuff

Mint Aero

Mint Aero wrote: »

He is, the show has been taken off the air :pac: But unlike the rest of us, the guy is irreplaceable on a hugely successful money mountain. Money talks :cool: and the incident is so minor compared to other stuff

He's had many warnings, has he not? Even the shiniest of stars lose their lustre if they start reaching the point of diminishing returns for the people who have to work with them. If the man can't behave like an adult at his age, I can't blame his bosses for wanting to get rid of him.

No one, absolutely no one, is indispensible. The show might die or it might change, but that's happening anyway because it's a constant rehash of everything they've done previously. That's just the normal cycle of that kind of show, and if they're talking about winding it up, Clarkson is likely just going to speed up the process. Your anger should be directed at him, he's the one jeopardising the future of the show you enjoy by acting like a brat.

Wompa1

Mint Aero wrote: »

People are getting highly confused here. He's not working in the same type of environment as you lot.

Employees rights still exist on a tv show. The producer was under employment to the BBC as was Jeremy Clarkson. You can't selectively apply employees rights...

ScumLord wrote: »

Yes, and like a person he can lose the rag over minor crap. I know I've spent the working and traveling and can be like a brier if I get back to a hotel and they've stopped serving food, I'd never resort to hitting someone but I'll go around fuming and I wouldn't care who knew it. Then I'll get fed somewhere else and come back feeling guilty for being such a bastard.

It's easy to say that but the fact is he is a massive component of the show. Would you take a slap to keep your multi million pound show on the air and all the people working on it employed? He may be a bit of a man child, but he's a highly profitable and popular man child.

He is a very popular man child BUT he's not bigger than the show or the BBC. If they continue to tolerate his crap. They are setting a dangerous precedent. If they fire another employee for something similar, they can fire for inconsistency in punishment

Mint Aero

Candie wrote: »

He's had many warnings, has he not? Even the shiniest of stars lose their lustre if they start reaching the point of diminishing returns for the people who have to work with them. If the man can't behave like an adult at his age, I can't blame his bosses for wanting to get rid of him.

No one, absolutely no one, is indispensible. The show might die or it might change, but that's happening anyway because it's a constant rehash of everything they've done previously. That's just the normal cycle of that kind of show, and if they're talking about winding it up, Clarkson is likely just going to speed up the process. Your anger should be directed at him, he's the one jeopardising the future of the show you enjoy by acting like a brat.

As May said "it's all getting a bit ridiculous" PC culture gone mad. Men should be men and have arguments if needs be. Who needs some scrotum tied up in a suit reading the HR rule book through their hipster glasses anyway :pac:

Wompa1

Mint Aero wrote: »

As May said "it's all getting a bit ridiculous" PC culture gone mad. Men should be men and have arguments if needs be. Who needs some scrotum tied up in a suit reading the HR rule book through their hipster glasses anyway :pac:

And Clarkson reported himself to management because he knew what he did was wrong....so, he knows what he did was wrong. Your hero knows right from wrong. You can learn from him.

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dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

May may have more brains, but who is the guy with the motoring show to his name? It goes to show that the gentlemanly, polite, intelligent guy does not always finish ahead. It may not be fair, but such is the world. Sometimes it's the big, fat oaf that makes it. Them's the rules.

Survival of the fittest.

Not literally, of course. Clarkson needs people to bring him his food and he whinges like a baby if he doesn't get it the way he likes it.

Mint Aero

Wompa1 wrote: »

And Clarkson reported himself to management because he knew what he did was wrong....so, he knows what he did was wrong. Your hero knows right from wrong. You can learn from him.

Exactly what a class act he is. Owns up and everything. Gotta hand respect to the guy

Mint Aero

Mint Aero wrote: »

As May said "it's all getting a bit ridiculous" PC culture gone mad. Men should be men and have arguments if needs be. Who needs some scrotum tied up in a suit reading the HR rule book through their hipster glasses anyway :pac:

Ah come on. He acted like a tool once too often and his bosses are sick of it. That's not PC gone mad, it's the natural consequence of someone not learning to just get along and do his job the way he's paid to do it.

I get that you like the guy, but he's not Ghandi or Hawking, and even those esteemed gents weren't/aren't exempt from rules of common decency.

Calling someone a cnut or hitting someone because you're hungry is not something adults should do, it's not the mark of a 'real man' to behave like a thug. Real men treat other people with respect.

ScumLord

Candie wrote: »

He's had many warnings, has he not?

Has he though, the original news report said he had warnings but the examples were things he wouldn't have gotten warnings for. One being the nursery rhyme that uses the n word. It was from a blooper reel from decades ago that never aired until BBC released it. Why would he get a warning over that?

Wompa1 wrote: »

He is a very popular man child BUT he's not bigger than the show or the BBC.

If he's not bigger, he's at least as big. The fact is he is the most well known presenter, top gear is all his known for too, he doesn't really do other shows (besides he's DVDs) like Hammond and May. I could see May calling it a day if Clarkson was let go too, they seem like good friends and he may not see the point in doing it without Clarkson. Hammond I think would stay, he's an attention whore.

The fact is if he got fired and moved to another show a large chunk of Top gear viewers would switch to his new show. It would be very risky for BBC to let him go.

Mint Aero

Candie wrote: »

I get that you like the guy, but he's not Ghandi or Hawking, and even those esteemed gents weren't/aren't exempt from rules of common decency.

No he's not and no one should expect him to be. He provides me with entertainment. That's about and all I ask for. Whatever about common decency, he's far from the worst of them to be fair. Again the incident is minor in the grand scheme of things as Hawkings would say I bet.

Brendan Bendar

Mint Aero wrote: »

As May said "it's all getting a bit ridiculous" PC culture gone mad. Men should be men and have arguments if needs be. Who needs some scrotum tied up in a suit reading the HR rule book through their hipster glasses anyway :pac:

You might if a work colleague clocks you on the job.

Mint Aero

Mint Aero wrote: »

No he's not and no one should expect him to be. He provides me with entertainment. That's about and all I ask for. Whatever about common decency, he's far from the worst of them to be fair. Again the incident is minor in the grand scheme of things as Hawkings would say I bet.

It's a culumative thing with Clarkson I reckon, he's been warned too many times. Final straw time and all that.

Renegade Mechanic

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

You might if a work colleague clocks you on the job.

Meh, they're men. "Fracas" happen. I should know, ive seen/been in a small few. And when two mechanics, loaded to bear with hand tools go at it, there do be some bloody lumps taken..
No one ever went whinging to others, that was just the end of it. Out in the open, air cleared. End of.

Brendan Bendar

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Meh, they're men. "Fracas" happen. I should know, ive seen/been in a small few. And when two mechanics, loaded to bear with hand tools go at it, there do be some bloody lumps taken..
No one ever went whinging to others, that was just the end of it. Out in the open, air cleared. End of.

Jaysus, you still in 1973 mate?

:eek:

Karl Stein

If Clarkson goes to Sky or ITV you can be pretty much guaranteed the programme will not be made with the same quality as the BBC.

Clarkson's 'comedy' will also have be toned down because sponsors and advertisers will not want to be associated with any negative press.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Jaysus, you still in 1973 mate?

:eek:

It's hard to use your words when you speak only in clichés.

Renegade Mechanic

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Jaysus, you still in 1973 mate?

:eek:

Nope. I've been told my broadband is technically slower than good dial up so I'm definitely in the late 80s at least.

Kailani Moldy Beech

Kailani Moldy Beech wrote: »

It's hard to use your words when you speak only in clichés.

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