Aboriginals.

kneemos

Always portrayed as poor and drunks . What's the real story of the modern Aboriginal?

Mode note: the term "abo/abbo" is consider a slur against Aboriginals; stop using it.

RonanP77

I recently read something that said they're poor and drunk.

Desolation Of Smug

Mostly confined to reservations in N.Leitrim these days. A reclusive people, and very fond of Lidl Ham. I think the whole "drunk" thing is just rumor-mongering.

pmy.murphy

kneemos wrote: »

Always portrayed as poor and drunks . What's the real story of the modern Aboriginal?

Their Australias version of the Travellers

Omackeral

Aboriginals? That's an odd name. I'd have called them Chazwazzas.

bodice ripper

In b4 a great bunch of lads.

mikemac1

pmy.murphy wrote: »

Their Australias version of the Travellers

Do they scam Australians with dodgy roofing also?

Wang King

Classed as flora and fauna in Australia until 1967 if you believe some versions Of history

Fr_Dougal

pmy.murphy wrote: »

Their Australias version of the Travellers

No, they're not.

They're the indigenous Australians, had their lands taken off them by the settlers.

suicide_circus

pmy.murphy wrote: »

No they just live like dogs and are subesquently treated like dogs

Woah there skippey!

catallus

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

No, they're not.

They're the indigenous Australians, had their lands taken off them by the settlers.

They didn't even have fences up so who is truly to blame?

Sheep Lover

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

No, they're not.

They're the indigenous Australians, had their lands taken off them by the settlers.

So they have things taken off them and travellers take things, complete opposites

Chucken

pmy.murphy wrote: »

Their Australias version of the Travellers

pmy.murphy wrote: »

No they just live like dogs and are subesquently treated like dogs

pmy.murphy wrote: »

Yeh your right their not Australias version of travellers but they do live like dogs

Wow.

tomwaterford

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

No, they're not.

They're the indigenous Australians, had their lands taken off them by the settlers.

Was it not often said Irish travellers were landless labourers/small farmers turned out on the road during the famine??

pmy.murphy

Chucken wrote: »

Wow.

Sorry Ill rephrase that. They live animalistic lifestyles.

One example would be rooting through bins for food

biko

I met some in a bar in Alice Springs once, great lads.

Chucken

pmy.murphy wrote: »

One example would be rooting through bins for food

Poverty will do that to a person.

smurgen

pmy.murphy wrote: »

No they just live like dogs and are subesquently treated like dogs

They were treated like dogs first and foremost. Your post is offensive. Have a bit of decency.

pmy.murphy

smurgen wrote: »

They were treated like dogs first and foremost. Your post is offensive. Have a bit of decency.

I know first hand experience of how they act and how they are treated. I wasnt trying to be offensive just telling the truth

In Melbourne some of them lie on the roads so they can steal cars and then drive off until the car runs out of petrol. Some are often knocked down by people and the police dont really care

agent graves

there is a park in perth where they hide in trees and then jump on random passers to rob them.. happened to my friends when we we over there.. the abos in the citys are crazy.

bb1234567

pmy.murphy wrote: »

Sorry Ill rephrase that. They live animalistic lifestyles.

One example would be rooting through bins for food

Seems like a bit of victim blaming go on here.
You think they enjoy rooting through peoples rubbish for food? I doubt they do that out of preference to buying normal food.

Chucken

pmy.murphy wrote: »

I know first hand experience of how they act and how they are treated. I wasnt trying to be offensive just telling the truth

I'd act up a bit too tbh.

https://i0.wp.com/www.janesoceania.com/australia_europeans/aboriginals_1906.jpg

harry Bailey esq

Wang King wrote: »

Classed as flora and fauna in Australia until 1967 if you believe some versions Of history

I'm nearly sure that has been established as fact,although the Australian gov might deny it.
There was also a big scandal uncovered recently enough about the treatment of aboriginal people in the 50s and 60s,very similar to the mother and baby homes.It is true that rates of alcoholism,unemployment,domestic violence,drug use and other social problems are significantly higher amongst the aborigines,but they are a marginalized community,they mainly live on reservations away from the rest of the population with little or no integration with the rest of the population.As such,they are left to their own devices essentially,and often harbour a deep distrust of outsiders,especially police.
Law and order quickly breaks down.This is not just unique to oz,the native American reserves in Canada and the gypsy towns in central Europe have the exact same issues.

dr.bollocko

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenous_Australians
Contains this unnerving line of text.

This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.

Also they tried to breed them out of existence.

Omackeral

agent graves wrote: »

there is a park in perth where they hide in trees and then jump on random passers to rob them.. happened to my friends when we we over there.. the abos in the citys are crazy.

That's not a very nice word. But I wager that you already know that.

Desolation Of Smug

I was thinking of A B Originals. The Leitrim crowd. Forgive my ignorance.

Let the racist insults continue...

bodice ripper

Thread already looks like the parking lot at BanFest.

RobbingBandit

Throw another racial slur on the barbie.

asteroids over berlin

agent graves wrote: »

there is a park in perth where they hide in trees and then jump on random passers to rob them.. happened to my friends when we we over there.. the abos in the citys are crazy.

there is one in Cairns but it is a sacred aborigine park, backpackers are told not to walk through it, me done so with a couple of beers on me, was approached by this aborigine big mo fo "what you doing" "where you from", i said Ireland - he gave me a hug and said "you understand brother", sound man

asteroids over berlin

following on, i worked in a world renowned pharma company in Oz, fair few abo jokes each week, i didn't laugh. Up the Abo's!

gctest50

agent graves wrote: »

there is a park in perth where they hide in trees and then jump on random passers to rob them.. happened to my friends when we we over there.......

dropbears

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00049182.2012.731307#.VOppTCxbxdg

lots of weird-want-to-kill-you-yokes around the world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vqCCI1ZF7o

Deco99

Aboriginals - from the beginning. At least its not indian because someone thought they were on a different continent. Fair play to native americans for taking that one back a little. If only they could get rid of the washington redskins now. There isnt a team in oz using aboriginals in team name? Is aboriginal an offensive term? I know the shortened version is.

hellas

Like travellers tbh, there's an entire community innocent and persecuted for the actions of a minority of scum who get drunk and commit crimes. Much like travellers there's also a whole bunch of hippie do gooders who are ready to defend them at every turn. Saying it's part of their culture or some such.

lazybones32

pmy.murphy wrote: »

I know first hand experience of how they act and how they are treated. I wasnt trying to be offensive just telling the truth

In Melbourne some of them lie on the roads so they can steal cars and then drive off until the car runs out of petrol. Some are often knocked down by people and the police dont really care

A buddy of mine was touring Aus. a few years ago and he says he was warned about this behaviour by an Aussie cop. He was told to keep driving if one of them runs out in front of the car because it is most-likely a mugging tactic.

unkel

Perhaps not the most sophisticated or intelligent race on the planet but what would you do when a foreign power dumps thousands of convicted criminals in your land who end up taking over the place? They got a very, very bad deal to put it mildly

StewartGriffin

Speaking from my own limited experience, the average Aussie clocks in pretty high up on the old Racism Scale.
I always think it's a bit selfish how they are so restrictive of foreigners coming into such a MASSIVE country, seeing as most of it's lying empty anyway.

hellas

Chucken wrote: »

I'd act up a bit too tbh.

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Do you also forgive black criminals their wrong doings in the USA because of how their ancestors were treated? Can't blame them for acting up a bit sure.

Cookie_Monster

agent graves wrote: »

there is a park in perth where they hide in trees and then jump on random passers to rob them.. happened to my friends when we we over there.. the abos in the citys are crazy.

that's drop bears, not aboriginals.

Cookie_Monster

StewartGriffin wrote: »

I always think it's a bit selfish how they are so restrictive of foreigners coming into such a MASSIVE country, seeing as most of it's lying empty anyway.

there's a good reason most of it is empty though, being desert and wasteland and all.

CruelCoin

kneemos wrote: »

Always portrayed as poor and drunks . What's the real story of the modern Aboriginal?

Tend to be drunk, poor, uneducated. With a generous helping of sexual abuse and gambling addiction.

It is a pity though. New Zealanders cherish the Maori and fall over themselves to claim some Maori ancestry. In Oz, however, saying someone has aborigine ancestry is akin to calling them a rapey hitler.
Sad really.

BlaasForRafa

unkel wrote: »

They got a very, very bad deal to put it mildly

They had the whole continent to themselves for thousands of years and did nothing with it. They didn't develop any technology, any means of defending themselves properly, didn't develop a state, any political system, any intelligentsia, any education system or architecture. They basically had only themselves to blame when people from more developed came in and took the continent and made Australia the country that it is today.

Nodin

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

They had the whole continent to themselves for thousands of years and did nothing with it. They didn't develop any technology, any means of defending themselves properly, didn't develop a state, any political system, any intelligentsia, any education system or architecture. They basically had only themselves to blame when people from more developed came in and took the continent and made Australia the country that it is today.

Who said the 19th century was over eh?

Yeah, they just survived in an unforgiving environment for 50,000 years using what they could make from what they found.

The Diabolical Monocle

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

They had the whole continent to themselves for thousands of years and did nothing with it. They didn't develop any technology, any means of defending themselves properly, didn't develop a state, any political system, any intelligentsia, any education system or architecture. They basically had only themselves to blame when people from more developed came in and took the continent and made Australia the country that it is today.

Yes if our own local history has taught us anything its that if someone more powerful and advanced arrives on your shores and proceeds to fvck everyone over its only your own fault.

Nodin

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Yes if our own local history has taught us anything its that if someone more powerful and advanced arrives on your shores and proceeds to fvck everyone over its only your own fault.

...if it wasn't for our betters invading us, we wouldn't even have the turf.

Baby Jane

How could they have known people would arrive from elsewhere to lick them into shape?

Why should they have done anything other than just survive day to day?

I appreciate today that there are problems within the community itself, amplified by lack of willingness to engage with the community outside of theirs, but blaming people historically for not being ready for plunder of the future is a bit strange in my opinion.

Zack Morris

StewartGriffin wrote: »

I always think it's a bit selfish how they are so restrictive of foreigners coming into such a MASSIVE country, seeing as most of it's lying empty anyway.

Yet it's one of the few countries where multiculturalism isn't a complete disaster. Strict immigration policies are the way forward.

Furthermore, the country is mostly desert. Do you honestly believe people want to live in a fúcking desert with no infrastructure?

kneemos

How come Japan or China never plundered the place?

The Diabolical Monocle

oy vey what kind of schmuck would want to live in some desert. yeesh.

Nodin

kneemos wrote: »

How come Japan or China never plundered the place?

Chinese were generally internally focussed and the Japanese only ever invaded Korea before the modern era.

-=al=-

The Japanese attacked Darwin and totally destroyed the place. Also, there is a secret base in near Alice Springs that the US use for all sorts of covert operations. They monitor a lot of dodgy countries and even control drones. Every week a US plane flies in to give them American food and supplies.

C.I.A agents work in the "secret" base called Pine gap. They get 2 year contracts to come from the US and work in the base while living there and in Alice Springs.

There's a lot of fascinating history about aboriginals that won't fit into a boards AH post. But if you really want to find out a lot about them, give it a google. They got shafted, basically. Australia even has a "Sorry Day" every year which is just bizarre.

I lived and worked in Alice Springs for a while, even worked with an aboriginal and they're quite nice people. Totally different to the likes of us!

Modern society doesn't bode well with them though. They love sugary drinks and booze and a lot of them die young because their bodies don't deal with sugar or alcohol very well. Diabetes and alcoholism is a big problem for them as well as getting an education.

They can't get served in the off licence in Alice Springs unless they have a certain I.D so they wait outside like underage teenagers asking people to go in for them. Trading them a bottle of wine for some art is quite common but just adds to the problem.

Every off licence in Alice Springs has police officers outside them and ask you what you're going into the off licence for and going to do with the booze.

It's quite sad but modern society and them don't mix.. Some do get out and get educated but most don't.

They get lots of benifits and are allowed to get very cheap education but a lot of them don't really do it

Omackeral

CruelCoin wrote: »

Tend to be drunk, poor, uneducated. With a generous helping of sexual abuse and gambling addiction.

It is a pity though. New Zealanders cherish the Maori and fall over themselves to claim some Maori ancestry. In Oz, however,saying someone has aborigine ancestry is akin to calling them a rapey hitler.
Sad really.

That's awful... but I laughed