Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

adam88

Mokuba wrote: »

I was on the Miami flight in November and it was perhaps 20% full. I have never seen any transatlantic flight so empty.


Surely say, Las Vegas, would be a more popular route for them?

Last November we went to Vegas threw Gatwick with virgin. We flew ei from dub on a 321. At least 60 percent transferred over to the virgin flight. I know this cause they had buses laid on to take ya directly to the virgin gate

Locker10a

adam88 wrote: »

Last November we went to Vegas threw Gatwick with virgin. We flew ei from dub on a 321. At least 60 percent transferred over to the virgin flight. I know this cause they had buses laid on to take ya directly to the virgin gate

60% of an EI a321 is about 127 passengers.
Not exactly enough to fill a direct flight to Vegas and I doubt it’s that high every day.
The Virgin connection bus is standard for meeting the early EI flight from Dublin

alancostello

Locker10a wrote: »

60% of an EI a321 is about 127 passengers.
Not exactly enough to fill a direct flight to Vegas and I doubt it’s that high every day.
The Virgin connection bus is standard for meeting the early EI flight from Dublin

That’s also just a single flight though, you’ve got countless others connecting on BA, KLM, AF, LH, let alone the LHR Virgin flight too, and I would imagine a ton are using the numerous American carriers and connecting domestically as well. A decent portion of AA’s new DUB-DFW flight is probably Vegas goers. A direct flight would certainly be made use of, it’s not such an outlandish idea.

Tenger

adam88 wrote: »

Last November we went to Vegas threw Gatwick with virgin. We flew ei from dub on a 321. At least 60 percent transferred over to the virgin flight. I know this cause they had buses laid on to take ya directly to the virgin gate

Direct to the gate?

Ive connected from EI to Virgin at Gatwick. The bus takes you to a transfer area. All connecting pax are together regardless of final destination.(My experience was 2 buses, one for BA, one for VS)

salmocab

Is the issue with Vegas not that it couldn’t fill a couple of flights a week but that it would strand air crews there for 2/3 nights at a time? As in fly in Saturday afternoon but they obviously can’t do the return leg so would need to stay until the next flight which would probably be Tuesday or Wednesday afternoon? That’s my understanding of it.

California Dreamer

Imagine if -GEY was to operate a flight to LAS!!! That would truly mess with people’s heads!!!! 😛🧐🤨😋

BonnieSituation

California Dreamer wrote: »

Imagine if -GEY was to operate a flight to LAS!!! That would truly mess with people’s heads!!!! 😛🧐🤨😋

Not to be a dunce here, but can I ask why? :O

Noxegon

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Not to be a dunce here, but can I ask why? :O

I suspect the original poster is referring to the fact that both topics come up approximately once a week and have done for a while now

basill

Vegas is the US version of Tallacanti. Attracts a certain "type" of price sensitive passenger. Cargo? J class? Its a low yielding point to point flight that ties up an airframe (possibly 2) and would never go daily so will also be inefficient on crewing. Best leave it to the Brits and get some cash off the connections. Or go to LAX/SFO and grab a short connection and avail of CBP, however, most don't and are happy to fly back on themselves which reinforces the price sensitive point.

BonnieSituation

Noxegon wrote: »

I suspect the original poster is referring to the fact that both topics come up approximately once a week and have done for a while now

Thanks.

Vegas !...........again.........really ?! Looks at watch, yeah it’s been about a week alright.

GFrye

Noxegon wrote: »

I suspect the original poster is referring to the fact that both topics come up approximately once a week and have done for a while now

I'm new to the party here, so I apologize for not reading all 415 pages first.

It's just that the situation with -GEY is a bit frustrating when it comes to choosing seats. For example, 3K is a throne seat and one of the best seats for a single traveler, but in the QR configuration it's a window seat with no direct aisle access. If I knew for certain that my flight later this year will be operated with the old QR config, I'd switch to a seat in the middle section. But I'm reluctant to change it now since I'm still hoping that I won't be on a flight with the QR config.

BonnieSituation

Noxegon wrote: »

I suspect the original poster is referring to the fact that both topics come up approximately once a week and have done for a while now

Ah grand. Even with my lurking here I've seen GEY constantly come up. I obviously got lucky with the lack of notice of the LV conversation.

Locker10a

GFrye wrote: »

I'm new to the party here, so I apologize for not reading all 415 pages first.

It's just that the situation with -GEY is a bit frustrating when it comes to choosing seats. For example, 3K is a throne seat and one of the best seats for a single traveler, but in the QR configuration it's a window seat with no direct aisle access. If I knew for certain that my flight later this year will be operated with the old QR config, I'd switch to a seat in the middle section. But I'm reluctant to change it now since I'm still hoping that I won't be on a flight with the QR config.

We know !

adam88

Tenger wrote: »

Direct to the gate?

Ive connected from EI to Virgin at Gatwick. The bus takes you to a transfer area. All connecting pax are together regardless of final destination.(My experience was 2 buses, one for BA, one for VS)

We were walked down stairs and directed onto a bus. The attendant was holding a virgin sign and was looking for the Vegas passengers. We were brought to a building (terminal) got new boarding passes and walked to the gate. There was two if not three of those airport shuttle buses and they were full

Hotblack Desiato

GFrye wrote: »

It's just that the situation with -GEY is a bit frustrating when it comes to choosing seats. For example, 3K is a throne seat and one of the best seats for a single traveler, but in the QR configuration it's a window seat with no direct aisle access. If I knew for certain that my flight later this year will be operated with the old QR config, I'd switch to a seat in the middle section. But I'm reluctant to change it now since I'm still hoping that I won't be on a flight with the QR config.

You can avoid all this turmoil by booking in economy

billy few mates

Absolutely no chance of Aer Lingus operating flights to 'Lost Wages' now that Conor McGregor has retired, they'd never ever fill it now....

Also I don't understand what all the fuss is about the so called 'throne seat'. I've flown EI business class a number of times, old config, new config, throne seat, double seat and it really makes no difference it's just a "single seat" but by calling it a throne seat it seems to conjure up images of some super dooper throne where you can laud it over the peasants with no claim to the throne. It's just a seat...

Jamie2k9

billy few mates wrote: »

Absolutely no chance of Aer Lingus operating flights to 'Lost Wages' now that Conor McGregor has retired, they'd never ever fill it now....

Also I don't understand what all the fuss is about the so called 'throne seat'. I've flown EI business class a number of times, old config, new config, throne seat, double seat and it really makes no difference it's just a "single seat" but by calling it a throne seat it seems to conjure up images of some super dooper throne where you can laud it over the peasants with no claim to the throne. It's just a seat...

Not sure they would be looking for McGregor type clientele

Tenger

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Not sure they would be looking for McGregor type clientele

If the person has the money EI will accept their booking, nature of business.

goingnowhere

billy few mates wrote: »

As is about the so called 'throne seat'. I've flown EI business class a number of times, old config, new config, throne seat, double seat and it really makes no difference it's just a "single seat" but by calling it a throne seat it seems to conjure up images of some super dooper throne where you can laud it over the peasants with no claim to the throne. It's just a seat...

But its the best seat bar none, huge amount of space, no neighbour, window and isle, lots of storage around you.

Trust me sit in 3K and then try 6H on the 330-200 say SFO DUB, its big difference for the same ticket.

alancostello

goingnowhere wrote: »

But its the best seat bar none, huge amount of space, no neighbour, window and isle, lots of storage around you.

Trust me sit in 3K and then try 6H on the 330-200 say SFO DUB, its big difference for the same ticket.

For me the throne seats have such a tight footwell compared to other seats. The closer-to-window seats on the left are my top pick, plus you’ve a greater likelihood of actually getting them.

Stimpyone

billy few mates wrote: »

Absolutely no chance of Aer Lingus operating flights to 'Lost Wages' now that Conor McGregor has retired, they'd never ever fill it now....

Also I don't understand what all the fuss is about the so called 'throne seat'. I've flown EI business class a number of times, old config, new config, throne seat, double seat and it really makes no difference it's just a "single seat" but by calling it a throne seat it seems to conjure up images of some super dooper throne where you can laud it over the peasants with no claim to the throne. It's just a seat...

Always called it the Captain Kirk seat myself.

BonnieSituation

Which plane is this layout on? Super curious now for a gander.

MJohnston

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Which plane is this layout on? Super curious now for a gander.

It's on the SFO route, so whatever flies EI 146/7 - I think it's usually -GAJ and -GCF.

I'd definitely call it a throne seat too - on an overnight, transatlantic flight especially, there's nothing better than not having to (a) get up to let someone go to the loo or (b) have to get past someone to get up to go to the loo. Especially with all the free wine they give you!

California Dreamer

MJohnston wrote: »

It's on the SFO route, so whatever flies EI 146/7 - I think it's usually -GAJ and -GCF.

I'd definitely call it a throne seat too - on an overnight, transatlantic flight especially, there's nothing better than not having to (a) get up to let someone go to the loo or (b) have to get past someone to get up to go to the loo. Especially with all the free wine they give you!

There is direct aisle access on all EI TA flights except -GEY

goingnowhere

Not quite the 2/4/6K seats are window without direct aisle access

SFO alternates between -200 and -300, but if its a -300 which it is on busier days of the week it MUST be GAJ or GCF as they have the crew rest fitted and hence have 4 fewer seats than the other -300

The entire A330 fleet bar Ei-GEY has the throne seats at 3k and 5k

As has been pointed out the foot well in 3k/5k is a bit tight, so if you are tall its probably not for you on an overnight flight but for a daytime its awesome.

The infinite booze supply is nice at the start but once you have done multiple flights you quickly cap it at single glass, its easy spot the newbies in business class.

MJohnston

California Dreamer wrote: »

There is direct aisle access on all EI TA flights except -GEY

No, there is no direct aisle access on the even-numbered K seats.

Edit: whoops, goingnowhere got there before me.

MJohnston

goingnowhere wrote: »

The infinite booze supply is nice at the start but once you have done multiple flights you quickly cap it at single glass, its easy spot the newbies in business class.

I avoid it completely at this stage, but I also try to drink a lot of water to stay hydrated on these flights, and that's usually just as bad for the loo trips.

I know it seems first-world problems esque, but I'm so bad at sleeping on red-eye flights that I try to make sure that every possible little obstacle to sleep is eliminated, and having to fuss over disturbing other people to use the loo is one of those little problems! When you've been traveling for work and you're coming back on EI 146, it's a disaster to not get some sleep.

cson

Y'all know the price of the 'free' booze is baked into the ticket? So you're technically paying for it?

blackwhite

cson wrote: »

Y'all know the price of the 'free' booze is baked into the ticket? So you're your employer is technically paying for it?

FYP