Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

Kournikova

Shn99 wrote: »

Andrzej just stop, you may have everyone else fooled with your tripe but it doesn’t get past me. CVA is getting maintenance in Hahn. Please stop

90s Retro Livery does sound pretty cool though, possible idea for EI

Dardania

Trying to move on from the waffle earlier...I have a tech query for you guys:

I noticed a few months ago that EI were ranked 2nd quietest airline in LHR (see this one for example: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/news/new-heathrow-report-names-airlines-with-worst-impact-on-environment-35833728.html )

Does anyone know, have EI fitted this mod to their A320s: http://a320whine.com/

Captain_Crash

Dardania wrote: »

Trying to move on from the waffle earlier...I have a tech query for you guys:

I noticed a few months ago that EI were ranked 2nd quietest airline in LHR (see this one for example: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/news/new-heathrow-report-names-airlines-with-worst-impact-on-environment-35833728.html )

Does anyone know, have EI fitted this mod to their A320s: http://a320whine.com/

No they haven't... I can be sure of this because I live under the approach for 16 lol

lintdrummer

Dardania wrote: »

Trying to move on from the waffle earlier...I have a tech query for you guys:

I noticed a few months ago that EI were ranked 2nd quietest airline in LHR (see this one for example: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/news/new-heathrow-report-names-airlines-with-worst-impact-on-environment-35833728.html )

Does anyone know, have EI fitted this mod to their A320s: http://a320whine.com/

No mods fitted. The noise is kept down by flying a Continuous Descent Final Approach. This means judging the descent so as to avoid leveling off at any stage before getting permission to descend further from atc. Doing this properly keeps the engines at idle most of the way down (leveling off would require more thrust). Aer lingus are regulars in lhr and so the pilots are used to applying this technique.

Dardania

lintdrummer wrote: »

Dardania wrote: »

Trying to move on from the waffle earlier...I have a tech query for you guys:

I noticed a few months ago that EI were ranked 2nd quietest airline in LHR (see this one for example: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/news/new-heathrow-report-names-airlines-with-worst-impact-on-environment-35833728.html )

Does anyone know, have EI fitted this mod to their A320s: http://a320whine.com/

No mods fitted. The noise is kept down by flying a Continuous Descent Final Approach. This means judging the descent so as to avoid leveling off at any stage before getting permission to descend further from atc. Doing this properly keeps the engines at idle most of the way down (leveling off would require more thrust). Aer lingus are regulars in lhr and so the pilots are used to applying this technique.

Interesting - so this way they can stay as high as possible as long as possible, where the noise has less opportunity to annoy people

Captain_Crash wrote: »

Dardania wrote: »

Trying to move on from the waffle earlier...I have a tech query for you guys:

I noticed a few months ago that EI were ranked 2nd quietest airline in LHR (see this one for example: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/news/new-heathrow-report-names-airlines-with-worst-impact-on-environment-35833728.html )

Does anyone know, have EI fitted this mod to their A320s: http://a320whine.com/

No they haven't... I can be sure of this because I live under the approach for 16 lol

A shame they haven't...where I'm living at the moment, there are occasional jets flying over, and you can start to distinguish between turbopops and turbofans, and now I'm beginning to understand the whine noise too...

goingnowhere

Kournikova wrote: »

90s Retro Livery does sound pretty cool though, possible idea for EI

Isn't that the current livery...

The short haul airbus fleet has never worn anything else...

kub

goingnowhere wrote: »

Isn't that the current livery...

The short haul airbus fleet has never worn anything else...

Is it the white shamrock I wonder?

IrishYamm

Aer Lingus to announce new trans-Atlantic route on Friday


http://www.travelextra.ie/aer-lingus-announce-new-trans-atlantic-route-friday/

It seems to be official now...

mikel97

They doing it on 757?

Bussywussy

lintdrummer wrote: »

Dardania wrote: »

Trying to move on from the waffle earlier...I have a tech query for you guys:

I noticed a few months ago that EI were ranked 2nd quietest airline in LHR (see this one for example: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/news/new-heathrow-report-names-airlines-with-worst-impact-on-environment-35833728.html )

Does anyone know, have EI fitted this mod to their A320s: http://a320whine.com/

No mods fitted. The noise is kept down by flying a Continuous Descent Final Approach. This means judging the descent so as to avoid leveling off at any stage before getting permission to descend further from atc. Doing this properly keeps the engines at idle most of the way down (leveling off would require more thrust). Aer lingus are regulars in lhr and so the pilots are used to applying this technique.

Think i heard there's a few lined up to be fitted during heavy maintenance this winter....

HTCOne

Most noise generated by modern aircraft whilst landing is from the airflow over the slats, flaps, gear etc anyway. The engines have very little to do with it normally....although if a go around is initiated over your house you'll know all about it!

Dardania

HTCOne wrote: »

Most noise generated by modern aircraft whilst landing is from the airflow over the slats, flaps, gear etc anyway. The engines have very little to do with it normally....although if a go around is initiated over your house you'll know all about it!

And whistling over the fuel vent caps, judging by that http://a320whine.com/ website

AoifeOCaa

IrishYamm wrote: »

Aer Lingus to announce new trans-Atlantic route on Friday


http://www.travelextra.ie/aer-lingus-announce-new-trans-atlantic-route-friday/

It seems to be official now...

SEA? DFW? It will probably be a 330 route this time.

JCX BXC

AoifeOCaa wrote: »

SEA? DFW? It will probably be a 330 route this time.

I've read elsewhere that it'll be 4x weekly SEA on an A330 (nothing else would do!) and PHL will increase to daily.

IE 222

Would there any scope of early morning depatures from the US when the full A321LR fleet arrives. Flights departing US eastcoast between 6 - 8am could be back state side again for another flight that night.

JCX BXC

IE 222 wrote: »

Would there any scope of early morning depatures from the US when the full A321LR fleet arrives. Flights departing US eastcoast between 6 - 8am could be back state side again for another flight that night.

I don't think anyone really wants to arrive into the US late at night though!

AoifeOCaa

JCX BXC wrote: »

I've read elsewhere that it'll be 4x weekly SEA on an A330 (nothing else would do!) and PHL will increase to daily.

That would mean an extra 330 coming in 2018 because with the current fleet (and the plan of 4x IAD 330/ 3X IAD 757), You will only have a 3x weekly 330 option for a new destination...

L1011

AoifeOCaa wrote: »

That would mean an extra 330 coming in 2018 because with the current fleet (and the plan of 4x IAD 330/ 3X IAD 757), You will only have a 3x weekly 330 option for a new destination...

The rumour mill is suggesting a 13th 330 (leased second hand not new) - some change from what everyone was convinced was going to happen only a few months ago with -GCF replacing -EWR and a 11 frame fleet for S18

Marcusm

JCX BXC wrote: »

I don't think anyone really wants to arrive into the US late at night though!

Frequently when travelling from London to New York for business, I would take the 8pm flight as, while it got to NY at about 10pm meaning he’d time at mic night, It meant no down time.

JCX BXC

Marcusm wrote: »

Frequently when travelling from London to New York for business, I would take the 8pm flight as, while it got to NY at about 10pm meaning he’d time at mic night, It meant no down time.

Based on what it took the 757 to do a rotation when it departed at 7:50am and arrived back at 23:30pm (IIRC), you wouldn't be departing until at least around 1am and not getting into NYC until after 3am.

Also, remember LON-NYC is a massive market, much bigger than IRL-NYC, giving room for such flights.

Seattle and ex Air Berlin 330 there was mention of two but they were apparently beaten to them by Lufthansa.

Noxegon

JCX BXC wrote: »

Marcusm wrote: »

Frequently when travelling from London to New York for business, I would take the 8pm flight as, while it got to NY at about 10pm meaning he’d time at mic night, It meant no down time.

Based on what it took the 757 to do a rotation when it departed at 7:50am and arrived back at 23:30pm (IIRC), you wouldn't be departing until at least around 1am and not getting into NYC until after 3am.

Also, remember LON-NYC is a massive market, much bigger than IRL-NYC, giving room for such flights.

What the original poster suggested was a US base. If a 757 was based in the US then it could easily do 0800-1900 JFK-DUB then 2100-2300 DUB-JFK. Both flights would be useful to me.

JCX BXC

Noxegon wrote: »

What the original poster suggested was a US base. If a 757 was based in the US then it could easily do 0800-1900 JFK-DUB then 2100-2300 DUB-JFK. Both flights would be useful to me.

Ah, my mistake, I misread.

Bussywussy

Not sure If an ex air Berlin will suit... different engine type needs retraining and new license issue for engineers and of course approval pay agreement...that'll take a while....

A319er

Maybe ex air tankers ? They had 2 with TCooks and one with Jet2 last summer and not renewing S18?

ohigg84

A319er wrote: »

Maybe ex air tankers ? They had 2 with TCooks and one with Jet2 last summer and not renewing S18?

These are RR powered 332s, so wouldn't fit in with the other EI 330 fleet seeing that they are CF6 powered.

Would be be nice to see one though in EI colours!

ohigg84

Bussywussy wrote: »

Not sure If an ex air Berlin will suit... different engine type needs retraining and new license issue for engineers and of course approval pay agreement...that'll take a while....

Unless Qatar were offloading some of their 332 fleet, considering that they are expanding their A350 fleet.
They are CF6 powered and relatively young frames.

Qatar has a 10-15% stake in IAG.

alancostello

ohigg84 wrote: »

Unless Qatar were offloading some of their 332 fleet, considering that they are expanding their A350 fleet.
They are CF6 powered and relatively young frames.

Qatar has a 10-15% stake in IAG.

Qatar was my first thought, but Turkish have a good few CF6 A332s that were parked up for most of the last year at Antalya, some were leased in, so it's possible they're being returned and could be available to EI. The last A320 came from Aeroflot so I don't think they're too concerned about investor/alliance sourcing.

robyntmorton

Is it possible they’ll take a year lease including maintenance on a RR based frame while fishing for a more long term CF6 to take over?

alancostello

robyntmorton wrote: »

Is it possible they’ll take a year lease including maintenance on a RR based frame while fishing for a more long term CF6 to take over?

I would say it's possible, yes, but unlikely. A CF6 bird would make things a lot easier, but if a lessor makes a contract for a GE/RR plane attractive enough, I'd imagine they'll take it. Let us not forget the Omni Air 767 that was leased in last summer for Shannon.