No gays allowed

jank

seanbmc wrote: »

It's pure discrimination nothing else to it. People who are linking the gay resorts, it's a bit different. I don't think anyone who's not gay would have any interest going to a gay resort.

Would it be different if it were a 'straight' resort? It is either one or the other. Can't have both. If you accept the fact that there are gay only resorts, then you have to accept the fact that there will be some places that will not want to accommodate gays. If you think that is wrong, then you should also disapprove of the gay only resorts. Its quite simple.

seanbmc

jank wrote: »

Would it be different if it were a 'straight' resort? It is either one or the other. Can't have both. If you accept the fact that there are gay only resorts, then you have to accept the fact that there will be some places that will not want to accommodate gays. If you think that is wrong, then you should also disapprove of the gay only resorts. Its quite simple.

If it was advertised as a straight resort I'm sure it would be different, but that doesn't make that right either. Why do you think they have places like gay resorts and clubs?

Saipanne

Imagine a resort that bans people based on their sexual preference... contemptible. :-(

Smiles35

Saipanne wrote: »

Imagine a resort that bans people based on their sexual preference... contemptible. :-(

It would be actually so I checked again.

The town’s gay (straight-friendly) hotels offer excellent value for money.

jank

seanbmc wrote: »

If it was advertised as a straight resort I'm sure it would be different, but that doesn't make that right either. Why do you think they have places like gay resorts and clubs?

Well the kinda did advertise themselves as a straight only villa in the advertisement. I just find there is a double standard being applied.

DarkyHughes

It's owned by this guy from Cork

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMukwjJTfA

crybaby

scudzilla wrote: »

Can't see the problem with this, it's their home, their choice. Maybe religious grounds are the reason.

Same as the cake shop up North really, but i suppose the gay brigade will be all over this too

Can't see the problem?

No worries when black people were made to sit at the back of the bus in America or Irish people were refused accommodation in England?

Religion is no excuse for ignorance in 2015 and this thread has really exposed some people, scrambling around looking for ways to validate their hate.

Grayson

crybaby wrote: »

Can't see the problem?

No worries when black people were made to sit at the back of the bus in America or Irish people were refused accommodation in England?

Religion is no excuse for ignorance in 2015 and this thread has really exposed some people, scrambling around looking for ways to validate their hate.

It really just comes down to some people feeling uncomfortable about gay people. If they feel that way it's their problem.

vienne86

I'm wondering what problem the owners have will gays staying in their place? I'm surprised they are allowed to advertise this way though. Would have thought it was illegal.

Kiwi in IE

I just recieved an email to say my review didn't meet criteria!
:P

RWCNT

jank wrote: »

Well the kinda did advertise themselves as a straight only villa in the advertisement. I just find there is a double standard being applied.

There's obvious practical reasons for a gay-only resort. This idea that everything should be 100 percent equal is beyond stupid as society/the world is simply not equal.

efb

I go to Sitges most years and it's gay and straight and I like the mix.

Brendan Flowers

Maybe I have too much of a relaxed attitude but I cant really understand why people get so offended by these sort of things. If I was looking to book accommodation and found somewhere that stated "No Irish"...feck it I'd just move on and find a different place. I dont see the point of getting 'outraged' and to be honest I'd be happier not staying in a place like that anyways.

padd b1975

Brendan Flowers wrote: »

Maybe I have too much of a relaxed attitude but I cant really understand why people get so offended by these sort of things. If I was looking to book accommodation and found somewhere that stated "No Irish"...feck it I'd just move on and find a different place. I dont see the point of getting 'outraged' and to be honest I'd be happier not staying in a place like that anyways.

Never underestimate the capacity of the gay man to kick up a tsunami of perceived indignation when someone has a personal discomfort with his lifestyle.

This was borne out recently with the trumped up fiasco over a bloody cake in Northern Ireland.

jobbridge4life

padd b1975 wrote: »

Never underestimate the capacity of the gay man to kick up a tsunami of perceived indignation when someone has a personal discomfort with his lifestyle.

This was borne out recently with the trumped up fiasco over a bloody cake in Northern Ireland.

In the first instance this thread was started by a lesbian so the need to single out gay men is perplexing.

Secondly, the cake thing is a frustratingly trivial but refusal of service over sexual orientation is discrimination.

not yet

Them quares do be leavin your gaf in an awful state..

gozunda

padd b1975 wrote: »

Never underestimate the capacity of the gay man to kick up a tsunami of perceived indignation when someone has a personal discomfort with his lifestyle.

This was borne out recently with the trumped up fiasco over a bloody cake in Northern Ireland.

Miaow ....

floggg

reprise wrote: »

http://ajaxsearch.partners.agoda.com/europe/spain/gran_canaria/bungalows_nayra_gay_men_only.html?cid=1686477&urltogo=http://ajaxsearch.partners.agoda.com/europe/spain/gran_canaria/bungalows_nayra_gay_men_only.html&backlink=http://www.travelgayeurope.com&header=http://www.travelgayeurope.com/wp-content/themes/tge/agdhead.html&cklg=1

I always think its funny how much times the words "gay" must come up in the google search history of some people who look disfavourably on anything to do with gay people.

Still, as long as its for research purposes, eh?

Also, I would generally disagree with any establishment that excluded somebody solely just for being straight or based on gender as well.

Exceptions may arise - e.g. I would agree with the exceptions set out here for example (obviously not applicable in Spain, unless comparable laws are in place there):
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2000/en/act/pub/0008/sec0009.html#sec9

Gummy Panda

OP why do you give fcuk when its not your turn to give a fcuk

floggg

padd b1975 wrote: »

Never underestimate the capacity of the gay man to kick up a tsunami of perceived indignation when someone has a personal discomfort with his lifestyle.

This was borne out recently with the trumped up fiasco over a bloody cake in Northern Ireland.

What the hell is so immoral about my lifestyle? Have you beef with people with office jobs or spend too much of their free time sitting in front of the tv or something?

I apologise on behalf of all gay men for not accepting the belief that I am unequal, immoral,etc. with good cheer and grace in good spirits.

Silly us, thinking we deserve to be treated with equal dignity and respect!

floggg

jobbridge4life wrote: »

In the first instance this thread was started by a lesbian so the need to single out gay men is perplexing.

Secondly, the cake thing is a frustratingly trivial but refusal of service over sexual orientation is discrimination.

The thing people somehow never appreciate is that its only because of our equality laws that these things look trivial.

Finding somebody to bake your cake might not be a trivial affair for a minority if bakers were free to wear their prejduices on their sleeves.

Just look at the US - desegregation had to be imposed on the South. If people had remained free to discriminate at will, minorities would continue to be excluded from society.

efb

Brendan Flowers wrote: »

Maybe I have too much of a relaxed attitude but I cant really understand why people get so offended by these sort of things. If I was looking to book accommodation and found somewhere that stated "No Irish"...feck it I'd just move on and find a different place. I dont see the point of getting 'outraged' and to be honest I'd be happier not staying in a place like that anyways.

Doesn't make it acceptable

Arbiter of Good Taste

What does the northern Ireland cake case have to do with this? The couple in the cake case were not refused service because they were gay - the bakery just refused to put their message on a cake. If they wanted to walk in and purchase a generic cake, or a cake with "Congratulations" on it, they would have been served no problem

In this case the guest house is refusing gays solely because they are gay.

There is a difference.

FWIW, I don't agree with the business, but why not just move on and give your money to someone who is happy to accept it. Life is too short........

arayess

padd b1975 wrote: »

Never underestimate the capacity of the gay man to kick up a tsunami of perceived indignation when someone has a personal discomfort with his lifestyle.

This was borne out recently with the trumped up fiasco over a bloody cake in Northern Ireland.

I see your point but you'll find it's mostly straigjht people who are outraged on behalf of gay people in some quest to appear the most diversified.
I think there is an award on the internet for this.

SpaceTime

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

Me and the GF are looking for a villa in the canaries atm for a holiday in April, Trawling through the usual sites including owners-direct when I stumbled upon this gem today:

http://www.ownersdirect.co.uk/accommodation/p8054482

Nice villa nothing to untoward until you get to the notes on accommodation where it states

"Please do not smoke within any rooms in the villa ash trays are provided outside at the patio areas. families and couples only, no same sex couples"

Aside from being highly immoral is this legal?

No its not legal and you could and should report it to the local Spanish speaking media who will undoubtedly make a lot of noise.

jobbridge4life

floggg wrote: »

The thing people somehow never appreciate is that its only because of our equality laws that these things look trivial.

Finding somebody to bake your cake might not be a trivial affair for a minority if bakers were free to wear their prejduices on their sleeves.

Just look at the US - desegregation had to be imposed on the South. If people had remained free to discriminate at will, minorities would continue to be excluded from society.

Of course you are right it is the optics that are trivial the principle of course is significant.

Alun

SpaceTime wrote: »

No its not legal and you could and should report it to the local Spanish speaking media who will undoubtedly make a lot of noise.

It's a UK based site though, so wouldn't UK law apply?

By the way, the contact / owner details are for an Irish person.

Gmol

reprise wrote: »

You're faith in the law over human discretion is touching.

As is your faith in this battlestation.

SpaceTime

Alun wrote: »

It's a UK based site though, so wouldn't UK law apply?

By the way, the contact / owner details are for an Irish person.

It's very illegal in both Spain and the UK.
Not sure which jurisdiction it would fall under.

AnonoBoy

scudzilla wrote: »

but i suppose the gay brigade will be all over this too

Say what you want about the Gay Brigade but who else are you going to call to put out a kitsch fire?